All these people in this thread who made Rin and Sana cry at the beach need an extended stay in horny jail.
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I'm sorry for being a bad homie, but damn, Chika is hot; and Sara... How could you avoid that, when your lower head is doing the thinking?
Just wanted to say that Im not epileptic but a happy scene that accurs in "invite over" is too much for my eyes. My eyes hurt for like 40 minutes after it
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played the game for a week straight to reach the end of the current update..i was so engrossed in the story i actually forgot it was an adult game.. 
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You missed the Everything is Connected event during Rewrite. That means you either never visited the Soccer field during the time loop or hadn't seen Miku's Nightvision event before starting Rewrite.
Because consent doesn't make incest okay? Particularly where one of the couple is acting from a position of power and "should know better"...
I think one of the reasons Selebus' writing works for me is that it clearly accepts that the whole situation and all the tropes that go with it are morally reprehensible by "normal standards". I don't want to assume intent but the whole thing could be seen as a commentary on how the harem/school genre is pretty gross - particularly where it involves an adult.
We're going to get a bad end first because that's exactly what the MC deserves. He's a predator (if we're being generous) and a rapist (if we aren't) that feels empowered by his rebirth/dissociation.
Didn't the Thomas Covenant books start similarly...pretty sure his rape baby broke the world...in deep caves...beneath our feet.
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And because (given the specifics of this case) the caring thing to do would be to send Ami to a psychologist for help with her obvious issues, not fuck her.
Exactly. One of the things I love about this game is it plays into all the dating sim tropes while thoroughly mocking the player for engaging with them. It's like the discussion a couple pages ago about people hoping the sex storyline with Chinami is gentle and loving or whatever. No matter how it's written it's a horrible thing to do to her and her family.
There's something refreshing about the author of an adult game reminding the player that the stuff they're doing and the rationalizations they couch it in are pretty messed up even in the context adult games normally put them in (the girl coming on to the uncle/teacher/brother/whatever, for example). Like cathartic self-loathing.
Don't want to yuck anyone's yum but: genuine monsters.
If you genuinely don't see the mountain of problems with Sensei and Ami sleeping together
Honestly, Chika's route is especially bad and will only get worse from here because she's one of the few girls that thinks you're a good person. Between her constantly talking about how she doesn't want you cheating and the whole Rin situation, it's just a mess. It'll be an even bigger mess if she finds out what you did to Yumi.
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Don't know if Swift311 actually meant this, but I think his intention was to stop shaming the MC as this is all a game.
Personally, consensual incest scenes (especially with flat-chested girls!) are some of my favorite and I don't really consider that predator behavior as 1) Consensual 2) It's fiction 3) The characters are obviously anime.
Now, if this was real life, or even human actors/extremely realistic CG, bring the barf bag and send a physiologist over. That's disgusting and predatory. But since it's obviously anime, it's a major turn on
So what if you deceive people in this game? So what if you rape people in this game? So what if you abuse your power? Nobody is gonna get hurt. It's all a game, all part of a world in which Selebus has 100% control over. It's all fiction.
And all we gotta do is separate fiction from reality.
But let me reiterate. Anything that goes in this game would be morally reprehensible in the 3rd dimension, in our reality.
It's just that the ethics and morals of the 3rd dimension holds no power over the 2nd dimension...
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but like most people I fingered Chinami and broke Rin's heart. And yes I feel bad about it. My question is have I screwed up and do I need to play it all again. Have I doomed myself to forever be friend zoned with Rin, or is the worst that happens is I miss out of a few event scenes?
Even tho I'm a completionist, I'm not sure I'm willing to play it all again given how many hours I've sunk into it already. I'm well passed the beach scenario so there is no going back.
Even tho I'm a completionist, I'm not sure I'm willing to play it all again given how many hours I've sunk into it already. I'm well passed the beach scenario so there is no going back.
Right now there's only 1 scene you outright miss by doing that, but all of Rin's events leading up to it are changed pretty heavily too. If you want a quick way to undo it, Oblivion9900 posted a save on page 124 that starts right at the beach event thats set up to give you the best outcome possible while getting all the events. The skip feature, by default, won't skip any changed/new text, so you can use that to quickly get to where you are now while only really reading the new/changed things.
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There's pretty much zero doubt someone will. If you provide a character that gains a following like Chinami has, the fans of her will always find a way. Look at what happened to Nano-Control, Sarah is in the same boat as Chinami, too young for main game development to include her as a character to fuck, but people developed a mod that will eventually put her on the same level as the fuckable girls. The only reason she isn't already is because the sole developer is delayed by real life stuff. Add onto that the fact that the renders are fairly easy to make, the positioning and lighting are the real tedious parts while model creation and placement are actually kind of simple in my experience, and you have even less limited potential than the Nano-Control modder.
Absolutely, I see no indication that the MC would do anything to force her or to get rough with her. All character development for him so far points at him at least opting for a more gentle approach, so it seems like being rough would be out of character for him.
Yep, that sounds exactly like something a '5000 year old wizard' would get curious about.
I have no doubt that, in keeping with the usual way it works, Chinami would get 'happy' scenes as well, though I doubt those would be the only source of lewd scenes with her.
That is an absolutely terrifying idea....I like it. It would serve very well as a 'happy' scene.
I think he means as a 'happy' scene, not the normal scenes. The 'happy' scenes are the ones that are listed as secret scenes and usually have some horrifying element in them, it's where the horror element for the tag comes from. His idea would actually fit very well. It would NOT fit very well as a normal scene, however.
The space war is sort of a mystery at the moment as far as details like that, but I get the feeling it's more human vs human than an alien invasion scenario.In the latest happy scene you can see Ami's parents' names on their grave:
Sekai Arakawa
Nozomu Arakawa
So far these are the only named characters who don't have alliterative names, right? Why is it that between all of these creepy scenes and cute girls I'm thinking about the possible significance of dead characters' names days later..?
My current head canon is that the car wreck was a lie and the space war began when aliens came to Earth and started killing everyone whose first and last names started with different letters.
I doubt that's all we'll get from whoever mods it in. As for the user you quoted, the idea he responded to is more likely to be a 'happy' scene, which are the horror element of the game and would most definitely be more horrifying than any actual lewd scene.
Agreed, just not in the normal scenes, maybe as a 'happy' scene like I've been saying.
My thoughts exactly, I was going to respond to the user who first mentioned the MC being shamed for incest myself, but your response does more than mine ever could.
Absolutely, it is precisely BECAUSE this is only a game that I like characters like Ami and Chinami and scenes like Ami's so much. I actually don't mind the consent or age at all for that same reason, but I can't help but find it adorable when it is indeed mutual regardless of blood relation or age difference, those are my absolute favorite. I do have to disagree for the reason in my first sentence as well in regards to the realistic CG part, though I have seen some DAZ works on here that have led me to stay away from most DAZ works because they were so bad. To me, as long as no actual real person is involved, I couldn't care less how real looking the art style is. Real life, definitely agree, that's absolutely disgraceful and I would be on the phone with the cops immediately in any place that didn't allow it assuming the relation is one of those not allowed. In this game, however, bring it on. I'd be more than happy to get involved in an incestuous or forced relationship in the town of Kumon-mi.Don't know if Swift311 actually meant this, but I think his intention was to stop shaming the MC as this is all a game.
Personally, consensual incest scenes (especially with flat-chested girls!) are some of my favorite and I don't really consider that predator behavior as 1) Consensual 2) It's fiction 3) The characters are obviously anime.
Now, if this was real life, or even human actors/extremely realistic CG, bring the barf bag and send a physiologist over. That's disgusting and predatory. But since it's obviously anime, it's a major turn on
So what if you deceive people in this game? So what if you rape people in this game? So what if you abuse your power? Nobody is gonna get hurt. It's all a game, all part of a world in which Selebus has 100% control over. It's all fiction.
And all we gotta do is separate fiction from reality.
But let me reiterate. Anything that goes in this game would be morally reprehensible in the 3rd dimension, in our reality.
It's just that the ethics and morals of the 3rd dimension holds no power over the 2nd dimension...
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Wait..are you suggesting that Selebus is kink shaming their audience?
Being kink shamed is my kink. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a lot of this game's fan's kink.