Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[BlackDays]

I have a question regarding the anti-cheats employed by Selebus.

I want to start a replay and to eliminate the grind, and guarantee every special variation, I'd edit every Affection and Lust stat (that you can influence yourself from repeatable events) to 100 from the start. How likely is it that doing that will invoke some save corruption at certain points? Or is it completely safe?

As far as i know you're rather safe from explicit "fork you for cheating" counter measurements by Sel regarding those "integer" variables.
But i think i read people stating, that by going overboard with the values you might accidentally skip events that need lower values.
I have no experience with editing those, so maybe someone else has more details.

 

[crustlord12]

Speaking of Ami and ‘burning bridges’ from earlier posts I’ve read, after that display in the classroom where she threatened everyone and her attitude towards Ayane and Maya while Akira was bedridden, how might her friendships be affected from now on? Especially now that Ami now has begun to make a ‘fresh start’ along with Akira as Father and Daughter in the latest update.

Will Ami continue to hang out with the Ayane and Maya? Or might she branch out and find a new clique to get to know? I don’t necessarily think Ayane would give up on Ami, but things haven’t been easy lately either. We also had a recent scene with New Maya and Ami, and they seemed to be on decent enough terms, but even so… the mind wanders.

I think if Ami is gonna have any new friends at all, Noriko or Futaba might be good choices. Noriko because she’s already empathetic and nice to everyone else, and plus she’s Niki’s sister, whom Ami has begun growing a recent attachment to already. It would certainly make things awkward with Maya, though, for obvious reasons. Noriko would be a friend making machine, though, since she’s already growing more friendly with Yumi lol.

And Futaba, well, because they were already on good terms previously in the Manga Club, plus her falling out with Nodoka had no doubt left some kind of best friend void. It has potential.

I dunno, though. Just spitballing. It’s very possible her friend group may not change at all.

What about Nodoka as a friend for Ami? She's already taken a huge interest in her and her family, this might be a great opportunity for Nodoka to do more digging, or trying to break more of the world

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

What about Nodoka as a friend for Ami? She's already taken a huge interest in her and her family, this might be a great opportunity for Nodoka to do more digging, or trying to break more of the world

Ooooh, I like that idea a lot now that you mention it, actually. The falling out between Nodoka and Futaba works both ways after all, and if it allowed Nodoka to learn more about Ami’s mother and the world at large in the process, I could totally see it.

 

[Teitonii]

.39 100% save please?

 

[Wormav]

it this normal or i missed something, somehow? cuz i know there at least 4 character events left

 

[BlackDays]

it this normal or i missed something, somehow? cuz i know there at least 4 character events left

It's part of the game.
Just click till it goes away. 15,20 or more times, didn't count.

 

[Wormav]

It's part of the game.
Just click till it goes away. 15,20 or more times, didn't count.

*sigh* Selebus and his pranks. he really hate his player base arent he?

 

[DeSkel15]

Speaking of Ami and ‘burning bridges’ from earlier posts I’ve read, after that display in the classroom where she threatened everyone and her attitude towards Ayane and Maya while Akira was bedridden, how might her friendships be affected from now on? Especially now that Ami now has begun to make a ‘fresh start’ along with Akira as Father and Daughter in the latest update.

Will Ami continue to hang out with the Ayane and Maya? Or might she branch out and find a new clique to get to know? I don’t necessarily think Ayane would give up on Ami, but things haven’t been easy lately either. We also had a recent scene with New Maya and Ami, and they seemed to be on decent enough terms, but even so… the mind wanders.

I think if Ami is gonna have any new friends at all, Noriko or Futaba might be good choices. Noriko because she’s already empathetic and nice to everyone else, and plus she’s Niki’s sister, whom Ami has begun growing a recent attachment to already. It would certainly make things awkward with Maya, though, for obvious reasons. Noriko would be a friend making machine, though, since she’s already growing more friendly with Yumi lol.

And Futaba, well, because they were already on good terms previously in the Manga Club, plus her falling out with Nodoka had no doubt left some kind of best friend void. It has potential.

I dunno, though. Just spitballing. It’s very possible her friend group may not change at all.

Ami seems to already be hanging out with Maya:

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So, they are probably fine. Maya only really gives a shit about Ami and Sensei, so this was inevitable.

Noriko is supposedly Ami's "sister" along with Niki:

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And has apparently always planned to live happily ever after with Ami and Sensei:

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So, I can definitely see this relationship growing. Especially with Niki being important to Ami, and all 3 being important to Sensei.

Futaba doesn't really seem in the mood for friends lately. Even a little annoyed by Rin it seems. Albeit, she's cozying up to Otoha now which is... strange.

A little out of left field, but Nodoka and Otoha might be getting closer to Ami soon. Not only are they into incest, depravity, and Sensei, they also know about her mother, and Nodoka, in particular, is interested in Ami:

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They also both have some relation to Niki. Sensei even seems to struggle between choosing Niki and Nodoka:

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So, this is sure to cause some drama. Who knows, Nodoka might even be trying to be Ami's "sister" soon as well. She already calls Sensei "papa".

Otoha also seems interested in Maya, Niki, and Sensei, and has some connection to Sekai. It seems like she'll probably get involved with Ami at some point.

Overall: I doubt the "burned bridges" will be that big of the deal. Most of these girls just want Sensei's dick and don't really see Ami as much more than a way to get it, which isn't exactly new to her:

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Ami's relationship with Uta might be a little different now due to the whole breaking into her house, trying to kidnap Sensei, and having her wizard pic on Sensei's phone stuff, though.

Ami will also probably be wary of Chika, in particular, since she sees her as possibly the most obsessed:

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Still, they will both probably play nice because it's beneficial.

In the end, it'll really just depend on if Sensei will honor his word and prioritize Ami now:

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Otherwise things will probably just repeat themselves, and none of what's happened will matter much.

 

[derekthered56]

In the end, it'll really just depend on if Sensei will honor his word and prioritize Ami now:

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Otherwise things will probably just repeat themselves, and none of what's happened will matter much

I mean, Akira already ran out to meet with two other girls after the trip and lied to her face about it. So really it depends on whether Ami counts his pathological philandering as breaking that promise.

 

[DeSkel15]

I mean, Akira already ran out to meet with two other girls after the trip and lied to her face about it. So really it depends on whether Ami counts his pathological philandering as breaking that promise.

Ami probably isn't expecting that much, tbh. She sent Maya to him the update prior so she's seemingly gave up on trying to stop him from fucking minors.

Frankly, she'll probably be happy as long as he actually shows he loves her in front of others. Even him saying he loved her in front of Sara shocked her:

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All she's really wanted, was to feel loved by her only living family.

Of course, we'll see what happens when it comes to actually choosing between her and whoever.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

That's good to know, cause I thought it was super weird when i reviewed their conversation at camp and Ami's like: "yeah, i hope that now that you're seeing me as your possible legit daughter, that will be the push to finally bone me"

And I was like "how the hell did i get into good uncle route".

I guess I have some testing to do regarding what classifies as without flag in replays, and is there a way to see the scenes with active flags again other than reloading a save?

Install URM; it will give you a heads up whenever you're upon a flag that is about to branch the subsequent conversation. You will be able to easily view different paths in replay from the same save, with a few exceptions like Disappointing Everyone and Getting Comfortable.

 

[Moonflare]

Ami seems to already be hanging out with Maya:

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So, they are probably fine. Maya only really gives a shit about Ami and Sensei, so this was inevitable.

Noriko is supposedly Ami's "sister" along with Niki:

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And has apparently always planned to live happily ever after with Ami and Sensei:

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So, I can definitely see this relationship growing. Especially with Niki being important to Ami, and all 3 being important to Sensei.

Futaba doesn't really seem in the mood for friends lately. Even a little annoyed by Rin it seems. Albeit, she's cozying up to Otoha now which is... strange.

A little out of left field, but Nodoka and Otoha might be getting closer to Ami soon. Not only are they into incest, depravity, and Sensei, they also know about her mother, and Nodoka, in particular, is interested in Ami:

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They also both have some relation to Niki. Sensei even seems to struggle between choosing Niki and Nodoka:

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So, this is sure to cause some drama. Who knows, Nodoka might even be trying to be Ami's "sister" soon as well. She already calls Sensei "papa".

Otoha also seems interested in Maya, Niki, and Sensei, and has some connection to Sekai. It seems like she'll probably get involved with Ami at some point.

Overall: I doubt the "burned bridges" will be that big of the deal. Most of these girls just want Sensei's dick and don't really see Ami as much more than a way to get it, which isn't exactly new to her:

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Ami's relationship with Uta might be a little different now due to the whole breaking into her house, trying to kidnap Sensei, and having her wizard pic on Sensei's phone stuff, though.

Ami will also probably be wary of Chika, in particular, since she sees her as possibly the most obsessed:

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Still, they will both probably play nice because it's beneficial.

In the end, it'll really just depend on if Sensei will honor his word and prioritize Ami now:

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Otherwise things will probably just repeat themselves, and none of what's happened will matter much.

Could you elaborate a little more on the Otoha and Ami stuff, and her connection to Sekai? I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, I felt kinda angry Maya finally playing the violin happened with Otoha of all people, that to me just feels like a random character overall, but didn't feel much about it either. Any explanations are welcomed.

Spoiler: A LOT about Niki

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So I'd like to hear more about Niki too, since I'm not sure what to make of her.

 

[Bingoogus]

Big Penis™

 

[Moonflare]

Install URM; it will give you a heads up whenever you're upon a flag that is about to branch the subsequent conversation. You will be able to easily view different paths in replay from the same save, with a few exceptions like Disappointing Everyone and Getting Comfortable.

Spoiler: Thanks, big help!

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[DeSkel15]

Could you elaborate a little more on the Otoha and Ami stuff, and her connection to Sekai? I have no idea what you're talking about. Also, I felt kinda angry Maya finally playing the violin happened with Otoha of all people, that to me just feels like a random character overall, but didn't feel much about it either. Any explanations are welcomed.

Spoiler: A LOT about Niki

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So I'd like to hear more about Niki too, since I'm not sure what to make of her.

Otoha: It was recently shown that Nodoka knows that Otoha knows who the Girl Who Cannot Breathe (aka Sekai and Ami's mom) is:

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Otoha however is apparently trying to hide this.

Then there's how Otoha seems to see Sensei as a little brother, while he was Sekai's little brother in law. Both Sekai and Otoha also seem to be shotacons, and shitty when it comes to love. There's something strange going on here, but it's not clear what or why.

Niki and Noriko: They grew up with Sensei. They were next door neighbors and he was basically a part of their family long before he dated Niki, and since he was "with" Sekai at least:

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When Sensei was around 18 and Niki 16, they dated for 5 years, then the accident happened, Sensei ghosted her, and after 8 years they reunited.

Some stuff on Noriko:

Basically the timeline seems to be:

• Sensei becomes a Tutor
• Niki mentions it to her family (currently dating)
• Noriko gets tutored and develops a crush (she's implied to be 6)
• Accident happens
• Sensei stops coming around
• Seemingly soon after, tutors again, letting Noriko back into his life but not Niki (ghosts her)
• Short time later (now revealed to be within months), Maya shows up.
• Years later, Sensei and Maya disappear (almost 5 years ago)
• Noriko begins her search
• Finds Sensei after seeing him out of a bus window. It's a thursday. Something happens. He's gone again. (Almost 3 years ago)
• Noriko continues search.
• School gets swallowed and she ends up in Wakana's class. (This year)
• Wakana tries to get rid of her, Noriko reunites with Sensei, and Maya, who calls her a cunt.

This is what I get from the 'What Could Have Been', and 'What Is' Chapter 2 Main Events, and Noriko's 'Loxosceles Reclusa' Chapter 2 Event.

Overall: The Nakayamas are basically family. Niki is like a younger big sister, and Noriko a little sister. Niki is also his childhood best friend who he used to watch anime and go play in the woods with.

Sensei has tried to hide things from Niki mostly because he cares about her and doesn't want her to see how he really is. He doesn't feel like he deserves her.

Niki is basically everything that is good for him. Nodoka is the opposite. She makes him feel numb. Niki makes him want to be better. They are basically the Dark side (Nodoka) vs the Light side (Niki) imo. Nodoka wants him to accept his horribleness. Niki wants him to grow up.

 

[Bingoogus]

FireCazador i always enjoy your little journeys through the thread as you catch up to the current time through many pages of old comments, your reactions are like little milestones on your journey. You had a lot to catch up on this time around, i was actually surprised just how far back your first milestone was.

 

[Moonflare]

Otoha: It was recently shown that Nodoka knows that Otoha knows who the Girl Who Cannot Breathe (Aka Sekai and Ami's mom) is:

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Otoha however is apparently trying to hide this.

Otoha also seems to see Sensei as a little brother, while he was Sekai's little brother in law. Both Sekai and Otoha also seem to be shotacons, and shitty when it comes to love. There's something strange going on here, but it's not clear what or why.

Niki and Noriko grew up with Sensei. They were next door neighbors and he was basically a part of their family long before he dated Niki, and since he was "with" Sekai at least:

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When Sensei was around 18 and Niki 16, they dated for 5 years, then the accident happened, Sensei ghosted her, and after 8 years they reunited.

Some stuff on Noriko:


Overall: The Nakayamas are basically family. Niki is like a younger bigger sister and Noriko a little sister. Niki is also his childhood best friend who he used to watch anime and go play in the woods with.

Sensei has tried to hide things from Niki mostly because he cares about her and doesn't want her to see how he really is. He doesn't feel like he deserves her. Niki is basically everything that is good for him. Nodoka is the opposite. She makes him feel numb. Niki makes him want to be better. They are basically the Dark side (Nodoka) vs the Light side (Niki) imo. Nodoka wants him to accept his horribleness. Niki wants him to grow up.

I see, well, that helps with Niki - but if all about her is indeed true, she's gonna be torn apart when the truth comes out. There are shattering revelations about what has controlled her life since forever that she has no idea about. That, or she'll soldier on regardless, and if so, more respect for her. She already said that she's too deep to have any chance of going back now, regardless of what happens.

And regarding Otoha, now that would be VERY interesting, and finally give me reason to care about her - which I've been trying to do for a long time. I wonder how Sekai feels about Niki too, I was reviewing the conversation she has about moving in, and Sekai's there the whole time, and when Niki presses to talk to Ami about it now, Sekai seems to call Ami to interrupt the conversation (or be a part of it?) Unsure about her intentions:

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[FireCazador]

FireCazador i always enjoy your little journeys through the thread as you catch up to the current time through many pages of old comments, your reactions are like little milestones on your journey. You had a lot to catch up on this time around, i was actually surprised just how far back your first milestone was.

Since i started playing LiL and got a little corner at this thread i try to see all the posts since i find interesting what people think about some things (sometimes i skip the biblical post cause it would consume a lot of time and the catch up would increase at some level that i could not really catch up xd)
Overall i try to react to the post that i really like or are funny (just because the limited reactions keep me chained)
This time i forgot about the update and had like 30 pages to read and had a little pause fearing the reaction limit.

But definitely the best part of looking through all the post is when i find biblicaly posts redacted like a wiki with a lot of info and pics without looking the publisher, then think about our LiL FBI library and scroll up to see who post it and confirm my thoughts.
Also your random posts make me laught for its randomness.

Damn now that i think about it i remember when this thread didnt reach the 1000 pages and now we are almost at 2000 (and how probably at least 200 posts can be people asking for saves or complaining about their deleted saves xdd)

So i definitely will continue my journey through this thread until the end (or Sel ending in a mental hospital xd) enjoying everyone's grain of sand

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Big Penis™

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

Random cringe theory:
What if Himawari is one of the girls in main cast? Like, maybe Otoha is her. Himawari can easily change her appearance and pretend to be someone else. Also, Nodoka saw a blue-eyed girl for some reason, but why did Nodoka see her? Maybe because her roommate IS actually a blue-eyed girl? This could also explain why Otoha knows about Sekai and tries to keep that secret. Plus, if we think about the theory that Himawari is Ayane's daughter, then it could explain why... Nah, that's all for today.