>nothing I'm doing is actually bad because there are no consequences
Well that's certainly one way to think about it lmfao. That said, it's a pretty common trope. If you've played Steins;Gate, I think there's one route where Okabe gets trapped in a time loop w/ Suzuha and then starts killing all his friends and running them over with trucks or something lmfao. Think something kinda similar is gonna happen here, maybe less killing and more SA.
>nothing I'm doing is actually bad because there are no consequences
Well that's certainly one way to think about it lmfao. That said, it's a pretty common trope. If you've played Steins;Gate, I think there's one route where Okabe gets trapped in a time loop w/ Suzuha and then starts killing all his friends and running them over with trucks or something lmfao. Think something kinda similar is gonna happen here, maybe less killing and more SA.
Yes and no. He experiences their deaths so many times he contemplates (not actually trying to do it) raping Suzuha, and that's when she manages to figure out something is wrong with him and convinces him to give up and go to the past with her. They live their lives happily from then onwards as a couple, presumably to their death.
Last time I played was long ago though, but it was a very strong point in this route that Suzuha saves Okabe from the edge of becoming unhinged, so he wasn't there yet.
In Steins;Gate 0 he's put through a similar loop, and yet achieves very different results from becoming unhinged in a bad way. Instead emerging as a mad scientist that can do the impossible again.
GOOD. The dude has advertised this stage of the game too much that this route for me gradually loses all its allure. Make your story dark by actually getting to it instead of constantly meta-broadcasting "it's gonna be baaaad in a few years" all the time for christ's sake.
Because at this point I have doubts on whether he could make this phase as twisted as all his commercials have been alluding to. If I finally get to the alleged dark phase and realize that it is massively overhyped, I am gonna play this game with my monitor off for some extra darkness.
1. random question that doesn't have to do with anything: wasn't Chika just working at the maid cafe now? was she working two-jobs and I forgot about it?
Cause even though Akira doesn't say to Chinami that she got called to the mall, he doesn't specify that she got called to the cafe either.
2. also, I was rewatching "first contact" and "all for you" today, and I thought that maybe USER4 is inside NAO, rather than possibly being her. It would fit that it chose to hide inside a template (in this case template 9, as it didn't have its form ready). Because it says that something emerged half unconscious before its time and chose to hide inside somewhere/someone.
This thing that hid somewhere will eventually rally to itself every aspect of the previous gods, like birds and spiders, and bring the end to everything. This is especially interesting because it means that if we have a character with USER4 inside them, then it doesn't really matter if they're close to either spiders, birds or whatever in terms of determining which god they ascribe to, because its dominion would be everything supernatural in the first place. Also, it may be interesting that it keeps repeating that there are four, and yet when it asks about who is lying it only names three people.
The hole in the wall refers to the hole that was caused by the accident involving Sekai crashing into a wall instead of another car. Well, by crashing into Kaori's car (supposedly), Sekaori was born by injecting her with Sekai limbs. So if instead the car crashed into a wall, Sekaori would just be Sekai parts that emerged from the wall. And in comes Nao-chan, a variation of Sekaori that shouldn't exist? Akira feels that he'd become her prey, and Kaori could be relating to Nao because they both have Sekai parts inside of them. She teases him about it too.
Regardless, maybe we should focus more on "who has the incomplete and unconscious form of USER4 inside them as of right now", rather than who is USER4. Given that it chooses to hide during "All for you", and the next event has Ami asking Akira for a favor that is cut from the game by the gods with the message "there is only one god, whoever tells you otherwise is lying"... it would point out it being inside Ami.
I also checked visiting Chikas dorm and wow does she look crazy there. Her eyes look a little wider so does her smile..well can't say we didn't all basically expect this
1. random question that doesn't have to do with anything: wasn't Chika just working at the maid cafe now? was she working two-jobs and I forgot about it?
Cause even though Akira doesn't say to Chinami that she got called to the mall, he doesn't specify that she got called to the cafe either.
But I suspect this is mostly likely handwaved away as a disconnect between the actual conversation and Akira's perception in the moment, because even in the state we see Chika in the previous scene, the things Akira is saying are STRANGE and would be commented upon.
"not yet no no no no no!
not in front of her!
not before she [REDACTED]"
And apparently it's using the key 12 (shifting 12 letters), don't know if that matters.
Not before she what though, not before Sekaori awakens?
Some thoughts on the Yumi & Chika events that ended up way longer than I thought they would. So ill put them in a spoiler tag so they wont be a waste of space in the event that they don't contain anything worth reading.
Some thoughts on the Yumi & Chika events that ended up way longer than I thought they would. So ill put them in a spoiler tag so they wont be a waste of space in the event that they don't contain anything worth reading.
Imagine Yumi starting to use "happiness syringes" like her mother, or at least thinking about them to help her stop feeling so down. But I can see that it may start a confrontation. No mother would like to see her own child using this shit, and Yuki, I believe, won't let her do that.
Imagine Yumi starting to use "happiness syringes" like her mother, or at least thinking about them to help her stop feeling so down. But I can see that it may start a confrontation. No mother would like to see her own child using this shit, and Yuki, I believe, won't let her do that.
I don't think Yumi would use them personally. I was just referring to Yuki in regards to her mental state. Yumi starting to hate herself because of what happened with Chika, in a somewhat similar way to Yuki hating herself. There's the Yuki stopped going to work and Yumi stopped going to school parallel which seemed to be intentionally made. Something along those lines anyway.
I do expect Yumi will find out that Yuki might have relapsed. That may push her towards Akira and would be the logical way for them to progress further. But as I said, I kind of hope Noriko gets to her first, or at least is able to catch Yumi before Akira accidentally pulls her all the way down.
Edit: I guess the fabled "Dark Route" could see her fall far enough to end up at the "happiness syringes".
Man... it's really started to get to me, what with Selly saying it'll be the shortest chapter... like... all this fucking buildup to it coming and now it sounds like it'll start and end in like 6 updates or something... what a fucken disappointment, there's no way it's going to be worth it cause if it's not going to go on for a long while it's just going to be the teenage edgelord fanfic of the game before it all gets reset and the purity routes begin... seriously makes me wonder if Selly has written himself into a corner, all this great build up and no satisfying way to wrap it up...
Some thoughts on the Yumi & Chika events that ended up way longer than I thought they would. So ill put them in a spoiler tag so they wont be a waste of space in the event that they don't contain anything worth reading.
There's nothing that I really disagree with on the emotional level, so you can just take that and disregard whatever I'm going to say right now. I mean, I've been pretty vocal against Chika's current arc and on how much I love Yumi and her development through multiple posts...
That being said, Chika's reaction is perfectly understandable and logical imo (as it concerns Yumi's event). Her own event is where I think Selebus drops the ball.
So hey, here comes Chika's greatest critic to her defense this time: Chika has told Yumi a hundred times that it was obvious she liked Akira. She has tried having an honest talk with her, she has tried cucking her, she might have even tried inviting her to a threesome. Most important of all, Chika has told Yumi no cap that if Yumi didn't come clear with her feelings, it was bound to blow up in their faces and it would ruin their relationship.
That's what happened. What Chika saw, even though on the surface was a misunderstanding, at the core it very much wasn't and she says so this during this last update. Yes, Akira wasn't cheating on her with Yumi, and neither they went back to their bedroom to have sex. She was wrong about that.
But what she was not wrong about is that they both were lost in eachother's eyes in a manner that just wasn't ever true with her. That Yumi was not coerced into that situation and that she wanted to kiss him back. That she has for a long time. That she let this blow up in Chika's face when she could have very easily just said so for years now.
Now, is part of this Chika's fault for not listening to the so many people that tried to open her eyes (Akira included)? Yes, 100%. But her reaction is still valid, because if we look to another example of surrogate sisters, Miku didn't wait a single day to tell Makoto she kissed Akira and to apologise.
This is guesswork, but if Yumi were to come clean with Chika before she confronted her, I think this would have gone down very differently. She didn't, in a huge part because Chika is insane. And in a smaller one because nothing really happened from her perspective.
But, and that is the point of this post, Chika has every right to lose her cool with Yumi. I wouldn't blame her at all on that front to be honest, she'll probably apologise for the things she got wrong, and when she does, the things she got right will more than compensate for the emotional distress of the rest. Yumi has fucked up, she has feelings for him and she let herself be in that situation with her sister's boyfriend.
If Chika didn't see it, it would have been fine. But now that she saw it, there's a whole arc of things she didn't see that become evident to her. They didn't get to that point from zero, and it's all been going on behind her back, and even before they were a thing, with Yumi keeping all that a secret from her (while she asked her about it many times over).
Man... it's really started to get to me, what with Selly saying it'll be the shortest chapter... like... all this fucking buildup to it coming and now it sounds like it'll start and end in like 6 updates or something... what a fucken disappointment, there's no way it's going to be worth it cause if it's not going to go on for a long while it's just going to be the teenage edgelord fanfic of the game before it all gets reset and the purity routes begin... seriously makes me wonder if Selly has written himself into a corner, all this great build up and no satisfying way to wrap it up...
But, man, 6 updates is a long time... It might not seem that way right now, but I think that it was DeSkel that put it like this: how the hell is Selebus even going to extend the dark route's events? I mean, if it really is as dark as it's supposed to be, then it kind of has to be short-lived - otherwise we either change the genre to torture porn, or we have to turn LiL into an update long monologue as everyone's dead but Akira, and he's waiting for Godot/the reset.
There's no real point for 20 events back to back, over 6 months, when every single one of them is Stomachache. It'd be way too taxing on the readers and it would just stop being meaningful very fast.
If you instead think about the dark route as a sort of arc where everything that was setup during the harem arc gets triggered, then it makes sense that it's short - exactly because it's just triggering everything that was setup. What really takes time is either setting things up or closing them down. Harem sets them up, Purity closes them down. Dark route has to be short because it will neither set nothing up, nor close anything.
Or not, that's all guesswork. I personally don't much care for a "dark route" anyway. Sounds way too edgy, but that may also be just a tactic to not give out what it's about (it could actually be about regaining all memories of previous resets, and rather than bad things happening, it's about seeing the bad that already has idk). It could be a lot of things.
