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Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

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BlackDays

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Some thoughts i wanted to drop off.

The new friend(s):
As mentioned already, i guess i'd go with the: No new characters added, but the formation of a new friendship between already established characters.
Likely Maya+. Because she is one of the more secluded characters. Like, who is she even friends with? Ayane, Ami, Akira?
Maybe she'll bond with Makoto more?
Or any other combination who'd form a new friendship.

The Black Orb (Apologise if it was already brought up):
I wonder. Since it was eating away at Akiras mind in Sensei Quest.
Might this be a metaphor/culmination/accumulation for what happened to Akira when Sekai died?
The thing that caused his catatonic state back then?
I can see the Black Orb being a manifestation of Akira's memories related to Sekai's death.
A theory where Akira was indirectly responsible for her death also reemerges:

While trying to kill his brother (as by Akiras blurt out during "Kyoto"), he also accidentally killed Sekai.
Like, he manipulated his brothers car, while thinking Sekai would be somewhere else, but she turned up being in the car coincidentally.
This would gain more momentum if her death was during fall, which might make the Black Orb the god of fall/autum, and maybe further the lead into the "Dark Route".
 
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honestly? i personally think mc dont have any true allies in this scenario only temporary ones when goals converge cuz so far every single "god" was in some way or another antagonistic towards Akira one of them essentially hard reset Nodoka for example probably one of the greatest allies Akira could have in this scenario unstable for sure but who isnt at this point in story.
 
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Wormav said:
honestly? i personally think mc dont have any true allies in this scenario only temporary ones when goals converge cuz so far every single "god" was in some way or another antagonistic towards Akira one of them essentially hard reset Nodoka for example probably one of the greatest allies Akira could have in this scenario unstable for sure but who isnt at this point in story.
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In anticipation of learning more about Maya's past, here's a theory that I've believed for a while but never got around to writing up:
  • Akira and Maya met before the accident.
  • Sekai knew about Maya, was pushing Akira to groom her, and might have been part of it herself.
I'm fairly confident in the first part. The second part is admittedly very speculative, with one piece of symbolic evidence that I might be massively misreading.
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I put off this update because I didn't want to be stuck on a cliff hanger for too long. Meant to pace myself and make it last a few days until the next update but then blitzed though it. whoops.

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In fact this whole scenario is really exciting. I'm really looking forward to the next update. Woe is me, I have to wait now. At least I have like 60 pages of this thread to skim through.
Also Yumi MIA. Nodoka too?
 
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aramaug said:
In anticipation of learning more about Maya's past, here's a theory that I've believed for a while but never got around to writing up:
  • Akira and Maya met before the accident.
  • Sekai knew about Maya, was pushing Akira to groom her, and might have been part of it herself.
I'm fairly confident in the first part. The second part is admittedly very speculative, with one piece of symbolic evidence that I might be massively misreading.
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I'm there with you that Maya and Akira might have met before the car crash, i had that gut feeling for a long time.
I do have a different opinion of how Sekai saw Maya though.

The Sekai we know hates Maya, given how she talks about her.
One of the only ways i could see for Sekai to know about Maya, where Maya met Akira after the car crash, is that the Sekai we know isn't real and never was. She's only a projection of Akira's image of her and how she would feel about Maya.

If Akira and Maya met before the car crash and Sekai got to know about Maya, the reason Sekai hates Maya might be, that she saw the power dynamic between her (Sekai) and Akira in danger. A real competitor, opposite to Nikki.
That, and or Maya was involved in Sekai's death.

As a footnote:
I wonder if the person, the distant relative that abused Maya, was Nozomo/ Nuzomo?.
The basecap wearing dark figure, which now had several appearances. (Was it two different basecaps? red/purple?)
 
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This might not be the place to ask, but there was a game on the site which I was following but didn't download outright since I wanted to wait for more content to come.
It appears it has been removed from the site, because despite following the thread, I can't find any notifications or traces of it.
It was a game which I believe would be similiar to LiL in the sense that it had many cute schoolgirls, I think the name of the game was "star-something" or "gazing"... I don't know I don't remember exactly
 
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LessonsInDissonance said:
This might not be the place to ask, but there was a game on the site which I was following but didn't download outright since I wanted to wait for more content to come.
It appears it has been removed from the site, because despite following the thread, I can't find any notifications or traces of it.
It was a game which I believe would be similiar to LiL in the sense that it had many cute schoolgirls, I think the name of the game was "star-something" or "gazing"... I don't know I don't remember exactly
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Possibly Unto Starlight?
 
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I was going to make a joke about "recap" being obvious, but then I thought that maybe recap could actually be about things we haven't seen (like flashbacks). It's still more likely for it to be just a recap of the three groups scattered about, but who knows.

The first "Episcopalis" is when Akira is finally back, following "miserably ever after" (himawari's intervention ?), and helped by gossamer
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If that trend is to be followed, then this episcopalis would be them escaping the time travel. It's weird to me if that's the case cause it's one of the earlier events, so probably not. I think it's more likely that episcopalis actually refers to the presence of a higher god, much like gossamer, it's likely that this event will also be presided by a higher entity.

Yellow patch is likely to be about Himawari, or Ami, or the first yellow patch - they all represent the same thing, following the original yellow flower that Akira used to concentrate to run from his troubles, then Ami became that flower for him, and later on it was Himawari's turn.

"God of light" and "waiting room" are... well. Let's just say i'm very anxious and worried for this update, like few before. Especially cause of the "what we'll see when we get there" cause I really really wish we don't end up in a cliffhanger until 2025. I fear what may be coming.
 
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Moonflare said:
I was going to make a joke about "recap" being obvious, but then I thought that maybe recap could actually be about things we haven't seen (like flashbacks). It's still more likely for it to be just a recap of the three groups scattered about, but who knows.

The first "Episcopalis" is when Akira is finally back, following "miserably ever after" (himawari's intervention ?), and helped by gossamer
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If that trend is to be followed, then this episcopalis would be them escaping the time travel. It's weird to me if that's the case cause it's one of the earlier events, so probably not. I think it's more likely that episcopalis actually refers to the presence of a higher god, much like gossamer, it's likely that this event will also be presided by a higher entity.

Yellow patch is likely to be about Himawari, or Ami, or the first yellow patch - they all represent the same thing, following the original yellow flower that Akira used to concentrate to run from his troubles, then Ami became that flower for him, and later on it was Himawari's turn.

"God of light" and "waiting room" are... well. Let's just say i'm very anxious and worried for this update, like few before. Especially cause of the "what we'll see when we get there" cause I really really wish we don't end up in a cliffhanger until 2025. I fear what may be coming.
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imagin Selebus dont ending current updates on cliffhanger until next year, i CANT : )
 
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'The Magnificent Waiting Room' reminded me of the Pareidolia Mall:
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Perhaps the Mall has finally finished its renovations? Albeit:
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I also wonder if the "Weasel" might actually be someone?...Going "Pop" probably isn't good in this game, and a weasel can translate to someone untrustworthy. Which more or less covers nearly everyone in this game from someone's perspective.
 
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If what pareidolia said about believing and remembering gods or entities is true, this explains
-why Sekai hates Maya.
-And lately why Maya is unreliable source. As she either believes she experienced more loops than she has or she forgot about some loops and critical knowledge.

Maya was on prey list of Sekai. But accident happened and Sekai died.
According to Futaba's story "girl" finds out she is dead and got pushed to the abyss by the cat (Maya). This got me thinking:

When Sekai died, she started the loops (or got in the loops). In which she was unaware she was dead, and continued her life as always. At some point (probably the loop 63) she got awareness about her death and the loops. This is probably the moment when Maya makes the move and does a hard reset.

So how does Maya attacks Sekai? ... She forgets about her. And make everyone forget about her too. This is why Maya doesn't have information about she should have, because she stopped carrying memories that has connection to Sekai. This is why Maya made a deal with Noriko. So that she can keep Akira away from anything that would remind him of the past. Hell she got close to Ami to keep her in check.

So what remains of Sekai is Ami's (Is Ami even real) rememberence of motherly love and Kaori organs. Thats until Niki made Akira remembers about past.

Thats why Maya went ballistic when Noriko show up. Maya made herself belive a lie which if Akira remembers past, it's gonna make his head explode. No, Akira remembering past would bring back Sekai.
 
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