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Moonflare

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So who the fuck is the sky narrator supposed to be at this point
Himawari. Earlier theories already pointed this out by comparing the overall tone, objective and other narrations to her style.

Last update presented even stronger evidence by continuing the trend of her having a life out of the simulation, coupled with Alexis' life with her daughter, and the double down on "trying to make it a better place".

While it could potentially be anyone, including Ami, it seems unlikely because Ami just wants a perfect world for the two of them. If not Himawari, I'd say Maya would be higher in likelihood than Ami. Himawari seems to fit better because she wants to create a better world overall, and will put Akira through suffering for it (even if she tries to minimize it whenever possible). Also because she is a confirmed narrator that talks like that rather than narrator Ami's INSANE TYPE OF SPEECH.
 

LessonsInDissonance

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Himawari. Earlier theories already pointed this out by comparing the overall tone, objective and other narrations to her style.

Last update presented even stronger evidence by continuing the trend of her having a life out of the simulation, coupled with Alexis' life with her daughter, and the double down on "trying to make it a better place".

While it could potentially be anyone, including Ami, it seems unlikely because Ami just wants a perfect world for the two of them. If not Himawari, I'd say Maya would be higher in likelihood than Ami. Himawari seems to fit better because she wants to create a better world overall, and will put Akira through suffering for it (even if she tries to minimize it whenever possible). Also because she is a confirmed narrator that talks like that rather than narrator Ami's INSANE TYPE OF SPEECH.
hey what's wrong with typing all caps
 

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I planned to take a quick look at an alternate explanation for Ami's assault of Maya in "Right as Rain", but I ended up finding so much stuff to talk about that I've written another very long post. Here's what I think can be concluded directly from the evidence:
  • The scene does not take place in the main timeline.
  • The way Ami acts in the event is basically a carbon copy of Sekai, and Sel intends for the reader to make this connection.
  • Based on the narration, the entity responsible for Maya's time-hopping visions is probably Pareidolia and/or Sekai.
  • In "The Scary Room" Maya is probably shown pictures of being raped, but these pictures include a woman/girl who Maya doesn't instantly recognize (i.e. not Ami). It's also likely that the pictures show a younger Maya.
Individually, none of these points make it impossible that "Right as Rain" shows a real event where Maya was raped by Ami, but each one makes it less and less likely. Instead, I'll tentatively propose a theory that could tie these ideas together:

During the reset Pareidolia and/or Sekai force New Maya to experience nightmares based off of corrupted memories. In the real memory that "Right as Rain" is based on, Maya was still a wizard and was assaulted by Sekai rather than Ami. In "The Scary Room" Pareidolia showed Maya Prime pictures of that real rape by Sekai.

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LoveRedHairedGirl

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You might be thinking that Pareidolia is gone so he can't be involved with "Right as Rain", but I'm pretty sure if actually went anywhere, he's already back. This will be a subject for a future post, but clues suggest the New Hope is either just Pareidolia or a combination of the trinity with Pareidolia in control.

In the middle of one of her hops (before the wizard & Sensei scene) we're shown images that suggest the presence of a god who ostensibly includes the whole trinity.
Btw, about HOPE being a combination of the trinity with Pareidolia in control. Is the old HOPE was called just HOPE? (I actually don't remember) Because current one has some long name, not just HOPE.
 
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Apollo259

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Ok so here is the rest of the somewhat outlandish stuff that has come to mind that I said I would write out. it seems I have timed it after another big post that is perhaps tangentially connected. Unfortunately I'm terrible at structuring writing so I hope it's not too unreadable. And I can't say that much of what's in here is anything more than mostly unfounded speculation based on cherry picked bits of information, that I'll be quite happy to find out is overall completely wrong. I'm just interested if any of it will even be in the same postcode as whatever we learn in the future.
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A tldr:
This shit is way too long and poorly structured and I'm not sure it even has anything conclusive to say in the end. So here is your tldr. Could the “Old One” be some kind of Ancient Ami. Could that Ami have merged with be influencing or even replacing our Ami. Does it have something to do with “Narrator Ami” plus “The Girl with broken wings”. I would need to link Sekai into all this somehow if I cant its probably wrong. And could this be connected to the creation of a God that has already or will soon become User4. The trinity of four. 4 orbs to make a God Orb. One Orb was simply “Red Orb”. (“That gash in your hands/ the one on your leg It matches my eyes/ that same shade of red”) There is only one God. etc. What about Ima/Nao and Nao-chan.

Even if the "Old One" stuff may well be wrong, perhaps there is still a thread of something in here that leads towards User4. And of course all this is probably completely wrong because I have definitely been far too selective and constructed a kind of “pepe silvia” narrative from a predetermined position.
 
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Bingoogus

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God, could you actually imagine a brony version of this game? The juxtaposition of the subject matter of LiL crossed with the source material of MLP being a cutesy kids cartoon... imagine a pony Akira creepy on the girls or a pony Sekai grooming him as a young colt... so fucking weird to picture...
 

LoveRedHairedGirl

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God, could you actually imagine a brony version of this game? The juxtaposition of the subject matter of LiL crossed with the source material of MLP being a cutesy kids cartoon... imagine a pony Akira creepy on the girls or a pony Sekai grooming him as a young colt... so fucking weird to picture...
Pony Akira is into humans then, and everyone else will think it's weird.
 

fasoaga

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What do you guys think about God of Save Slots not knowing about pareidolia?.
aramaug convinced me Ami in "Right as Rain" was Sekai.
And i would like to use some of his points to support my earlier theory.

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Abaut Maya and wearing Sekai's clothes.
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If we accept that this is Sekai impersonating Ami. She blames Maya taking her place, pretending to be Sekai.
What do we know about Maya:
-She is mysterious entity that has more knowledge than everyone else about loops and resets.
-She is the real love of Akira.
-She is the best girl after Kaori.

If she was pretending to be Sekai, it wouldn't be overreaching to claim these attribitus belonged to Sekai. At least partly because Maya was helping Sekai in something. (Probably the reset and loops.)
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In my theory, initially Sekai was also in the loops. And After God of save slots introduction, i belive she is the reason for the loops.
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Would it be ridiculous to think that it wasn't an accident that killed Sekai. It was probably a suicide.
Is Akira that sexist to think women can't drive or there is a reason for him to not want Sekai to drive?

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As i said in my earlier theory about futaba's story, a girl (Sekai) finds a room with familiar pictures with no one in it. Then pushed in to void by a cat.(Maya) Maya managed to do it by erasing everything about Sekai so after a hard reset no one would remember her. Then She made memory boxes excluding anyting related to Sekai, so she would forget her too.

Like aramaug said.

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Thats why she doesn't recognize her right away in "scary room". But put two and two together.

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Now Sekai came back with by, Akira regaining his memories/ Kaori organs/ Ami(Just like Paredolia was inside AKira's head, Sekai is inside Ami's head.) And now she nows Maya is very useful toy but betrayed Sekai. So she controls Ami to manipulate Maya use her again but this time under the guise of friendship.

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I think thats why "me" was in italics. Sekai want Maya's loyalty to herself while wearing Ami's face.

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If i made mistake or you think misinterpreting things wrong (i probably do) please correct me. This game making me feel like i'm fighting theory battles in asoiaf subreddit in 2015.
 

Psygore

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Thank you for this analysis, I thoroughly enjoyed it and it made a lot of sense to me, it eloquently gave shape to some doubts an theories I had. Love your work.

I planned to take a quick look at an alternate explanation for Ami's assault of Maya in "Right as Rain", but I ended up finding so much stuff to talk about that I've written another very long post. Here's what I think can be concluded directly from the evidence:
  • The scene does not take place in the main timeline.
  • The way Ami acts in the event is basically a carbon copy of Sekai, and Sel intends for the reader to make this connection.
  • Based on the narration, the entity responsible for Maya's time-hopping visions is probably Pareidolia and/or Sekai.
  • In "The Scary Room" Maya is probably shown pictures of being raped, but these pictures include a woman/girl who Maya doesn't instantly recognize (i.e. not Ami). It's also likely that the pictures show a younger Maya.
Individually, none of these points make it impossible that "Right as Rain" shows a real event where Maya was raped by Ami, but each one makes it less and less likely. Instead, I'll tentatively propose a theory that could tie these ideas together:

During the reset Pareidolia and/or Sekai force New Maya to experience nightmares based off of corrupted memories. In the real memory that "Right as Rain" is based on, Maya was still a wizard and was assaulted by Sekai rather than Ami. In "The Scary Room" Pareidolia showed Maya Prime pictures of that real rape by Sekai.

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KiIdar

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No, this game is alive and well. The problem is that you have to check for updates by yourself by coming to this thread every 1st day of the month, most of the time. The game updates 10 times a year with 2 months of rest for Sel. The next update will be on 01.01.2025 (this december is a rest month). Here the 2025 schedule:
The the main page there is a serious lag on the version you mentioned. Anyway I can download the full game in one go? Or am I stuck downloading update after update?

Also, ty for your and everyone else's reply letting me know what is up :D
 

fasoaga

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The the main page there is a serious lag on the version you mentioned. Anyway I can download the full game in one go? Or am I stuck downloading update after update?

Also, ty for your and everyone else's reply letting me know what is up :D
You can download the whole game no need to update.
 

KiIdar

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I recommend AutoVnmod too, if you want only the story and not interested in the sandbox gameplay. (I think there is nothing interesting in the sandbox gameplay.)
Actually downloaded it before your comment xD That one and the guide mod. I agree with ur statement of it being a bit boring, though my biggest pet peeve was missing events and having no way to go back (if I didn't do a proper save) to get them done
 
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