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Also it's a betrayal because Rin shouldn't have to ask her teacher, no matter how chummy he is with his students, not to finger her best friend who is also her age.

Sensei is an adult teacher. If you were a teenager who was into someone and you found out your friend was already with that person, that's shitty but ultimately you probably both get over it after some yelling and/or ghosting. If you found out your teacher who you had opened up to about your mental illness was with that person it's a completely different level of emotional response.

Rin has no reason to believe Sensei would actually have any sort of sexual relations with a student, so even if she doesn't specifically ask you not to go after Chika she has every right to feel upset, furious, even disgusted (and yes, especially betrayed!) if and when she finds out he did. Because of his position and age there is no reason she should specifically have to ask Sensei to stay away from her crush until she gets a shot.

That's why she doesn't seem to know how to react when she does find out. She's completely blindsided. The one advantage she had in confessing to Chika was that there wasn't supposed to be any competition, then she finds out the one adult she trusted with her mental illness and sexual identity didn't trust her enough to at least give her the heads up that he was interested in Chika.

Yes it's a game and the gameplay loop pushes us to sleep with the students to unlock more scenes, but this genre uses that inherent reward loop of nonsensical behavior as a trap by introducing real world consequences (which as I said before, Sensei has gotten off extremely lightly for his behavior so far).

If you want to follow the "best" route then keep multiple saves and be more careful in the future, it isn't the last trap Selebus is going to lay by a long shot.

Personally I like it. I usually don't have the stones to play as anything but the (horny) goody two shoes so I miss out on this sort of content. I love that Selebus uses gameplay reward loops to trap us into negative scenes because they end up being brilliantly written.
 

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I wanna preface this by saying that I think your game is great. I love your writing and humor and the little touches of darkness here and there are creepy and uncomfortable at the right moments exactly because they can appear at any time. I also didn't read the tags, so the first time I got a happy event I was very scared(so cool). I also unfortunately spoiled Doki Doki for myself so this was a very nice surprise.

But I feel like the way you have to wait so long for the normal events is very annoying, I mean I guess you could say that's the point but I feel like you got that across fairly well with the individual events with the girls taking so long to unlock(I didn't mind grinding that much because the skip button exists and doing it for your writing was worth it)so it felt somewhat unnecessary.

And the other thing is that even though the character you play isn't a self insert ,the game tries to guilt about your actions even though(so it seems to me)they are the only way to advance the story and unlock the other girls .At the start I just wanted to do Miku's story but I looked it up here and it seems I need some normal event to get more of her scenes(its kabiliontrilion I think). So I just started to do the other girls storyline and now then the game starts judging you for playing the game the only way it can be played and it doesn't really feel genuine to me and that's kind of a shame .I'm at the beach event currently so I'm sorry if I'm bringing up problems that get resolved after that.

I guess I can bring up a lack of individual scenes on some girls but with the game still being in development and having so many girls that is totally excusable(though I myself would prefer more events for existing girls rather than new characters being added)
 
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I wanna preface this by saying that I think your game is great. I love your writing and humor and the little touches of darkness here and there are creepy and uncomfortable at the right moments exactly because they can appear at any time. I also didn't read the tags, so the first time I got a happy event I was very scared(so cool). I also unfortunately spoiled Doki Doki for myself so this was a very nice surprise.

But I feel like the way you have to wait so long for the normal events is very annoying, I mean I guess you could say that's the point but I feel like you got that across fairly well with the individual events with the girls taking so long to unlock(I didn't mind grinding that much because the skip button exists and doing it for your writing was worth it)so it felt somewhat unnecessary.

And the other thing is that even though the character you play isn't a self insert ,the game tries to guilt about your actions even though(so it seems to me)they are the only way to advance the story and unlock the other girls .At the start I just wanted to do Miku's story but I looked it up here and it seems I need some normal event to get more of her scenes(its kabiliontrilion I think). So I just started to do the other girls storyline and now then the game starts judging you for playing the game the only way it can be played and it doesn't really feel genuine to me and that's kind of a shame .I'm at the beach event currently so I'm sorry if I'm bringing up problems that get resolved after that.

I guess I can bring up a lack of individual scenes on some girls but with the game still being in development and having so many girls that is totally excusable(though I myself would prefer more events for existing girls rather than new characters being added)
Just remember it's still extremely early in development and the story is essentially being unveiled through development. As I understand, purity routes (the kind of route where you focus entirely on one girl) won't be implemented until after the main story is done, probably over a year from now before we see the start of the first one.

Miku specifically doesn't have a ton of content yet.
 
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First time posting on this site, never have commented much on forums but felt the need to this time. I liked this game at first the psychological aspect was interesting and the comedy was actually funny, but after this latest update and it's "puzzle" that's changed.

The "happy" events have always had pointlessly(and often meaninglessly) narrow windows with zero hints; going so far as to not even be necessary(until they are and grind the game to a halt). For the most part these events have meandering trains of thought masquerading as meaningful, often repeating themselves endlessly, as well as some semi-weird imagery(and let's not forget the hex-code for everyone who wants to breakout the calculator). That is until they have information that is REQUIRED to progress, information you have no reason to write down because honestly most of these events are gibberish unless you want to breakout a fucking cypher, so much gibberish in fact that I would often hold down skip because I got the point in the first 5 lines and didn't need the repetition. But what am I saying that accounts for only half of the puzzle, the other half requires sound(great accessibility concern there buddy I'm not deaf but I mute my porn because moans only have so many variations) and a near blind guess(unless you happen to exist in the developers head). I know people on this forum will yell that I should "just pay attention" but no happy event 10 I got literally months ago, I may have even copied the IP at that time and then erased it because IT WASN'T USED ANYWHERE IN THAT UPDATE, and then promptly forgot that line ever existed(just one more bit of gibberish in the mountain of it).

So if you're looking for simple answers to this game just open the guide, the developer or his rabid fanbase seem determined to keep information about the puzzle a secret out of some misguided sense that the player hasn't EARNED IT yet, you know the usual gamer gatekeeping bullshit.

And to the dev, I understand you have your rabid fans and mostly likely don't give a shit about anything resembling meaningful feedback, but clean up your fucking puzzles and take peoples preferences and limitations into account. If I find another puzzle like this in future versions I'm out, and yes I'm aware you probably don't care.
 

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First time posting on this site, never have commented much on forums but felt the need to this time. I liked this game at first the psychological aspect was interesting and the comedy was actually funny, but after this latest update and it's "puzzle" that's changed.

The "happy" events have always had pointlessly(and often meaninglessly) narrow windows with zero hints; going so far as to not even be necessary(until they are and grind the game to a halt). For the most part these events have meandering trains of thought masquerading as meaningful, often repeating themselves endlessly, as well as some semi-weird imagery(and let's not forget the hex-code for everyone who wants to breakout the calculator). That is until they have information that is REQUIRED to progress, information you have no reason to write down because honestly most of these events are gibberish unless you want to breakout a fucking cypher, so much gibberish in fact that I would often hold down skip because I got the point in the first 5 lines and didn't need the repetition. But what am I saying that accounts for only half of the puzzle, the other half requires sound(great accessibility concern there buddy I'm not deaf but I mute my porn because moans only have so many variations) and a near blind guess(unless you happen to exist in the developers head). I know people on this forum will yell that I should "just pay attention" but no happy event 10 I got literally months ago, I may have even copied the IP at that time and then erased it because IT WASN'T USED ANYWHERE IN THAT UPDATE, and then promptly forgot that line ever existed(just one more bit of gibberish in the mountain of it).

So if you're looking for simple answers to this game just open the guide, the developer or his rabid fanbase seem determined to keep information about the puzzle a secret out of some misguided sense that the player hasn't EARNED IT yet, you know the usual gamer gatekeeping bullshit.

And to the dev, I understand you have your rabid fans and mostly likely don't give a shit about anything resembling meaningful feedback, but clean up your fucking puzzles and take peoples preferences and limitations into account. If I find another puzzle like this in future versions I'm out, and yes I'm aware you probably don't care.
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First time posting on this site, never have commented much on forums but felt the need to this time. I liked this game at first the psychological aspect was interesting and the comedy was actually funny, but after this latest update and it's "puzzle" that's changed.

The "happy" events have always had pointlessly(and often meaninglessly) narrow windows with zero hints; going so far as to not even be necessary(until they are and grind the game to a halt). For the most part these events have meandering trains of thought masquerading as meaningful, often repeating themselves endlessly, as well as some semi-weird imagery(and let's not forget the hex-code for everyone who wants to breakout the calculator). That is until they have information that is REQUIRED to progress, information you have no reason to write down because honestly most of these events are gibberish unless you want to breakout a fucking cypher, so much gibberish in fact that I would often hold down skip because I got the point in the first 5 lines and didn't need the repetition. But what am I saying that accounts for only half of the puzzle, the other half requires sound(great accessibility concern there buddy I'm not deaf but I mute my porn because moans only have so many variations) and a near blind guess(unless you happen to exist in the developers head). I know people on this forum will yell that I should "just pay attention" but no happy event 10 I got literally months ago, I may have even copied the IP at that time and then erased it because IT WASN'T USED ANYWHERE IN THAT UPDATE, and then promptly forgot that line ever existed(just one more bit of gibberish in the mountain of it).

So if you're looking for simple answers to this game just open the guide, the developer or his rabid fanbase seem determined to keep information about the puzzle a secret out of some misguided sense that the player hasn't EARNED IT yet, you know the usual gamer gatekeeping bullshit.

And to the dev, I understand you have your rabid fans and mostly likely don't give a shit about anything resembling meaningful feedback, but clean up your fucking puzzles and take peoples preferences and limitations into account. If I find another puzzle like this in future versions I'm out, and yes I'm aware you probably don't care.
Or, alternatively, I will continue to make the game I want to make. No one’s being forced to play and people are free to stop whenever they want.
 

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So if you're looking for simple answers to this game just open the guide, the developer or his rabid fanbase seem determined to keep information about the puzzle a secret out of some misguided sense that the player hasn't EARNED IT yet, you know the usual gamer gatekeeping bullshit.
I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to tell you the answers to puzzles. It's not really "gatekeeping" to avoid spoiling the answers in casual conversation.

It's also hard when people ask about puzzles to know whether they are looking for a hint or the actual answer - some people do like to solve stuff themselves.

Given that there is a fan made guide - which you directly refer to - I'm not sure what we have done wrong.

I guess I can play it for you if you want...

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Despite my rabies I suspect that will only be amusing maybe one more time.
 
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Or, alternatively, I will continue to make the game I want to make. No one’s being forced to play and people are free to stop whenever they want.
Genuinely not sure if more spiders will make me uninstall and kill with fire or if its exactly what I want.

Deeply confused.
 
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Genuinely not sure if more spiders will make me uninstall and kill with fire or if its exactly what I want.

Deeply confused.
It’s just funny how I released something to intentionally punish people who aren’t paying attention and then they get mad because they weren’t able to cruise through. Like yes, that is the point.
 

Wolfyna

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Just remember it's still extremely early in development and the story is essentially being unveiled through development. As I understand, purity routes (the kind of route where you focus entirely on one girl) won't be implemented until after the main story is done, probably over a year from now before we see the start of the first one.

Miku specifically doesn't have a ton of content yet.
Fair enough...I like this game a lot, so I just want it to be the best it can I guess(I wish I had money to give...)
 
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I don't think it's anyone's responsibility to tell you the answers to puzzles. It's not really "gatekeeping" to avoid spoiling the answers in casual conversation.

It's also hard when people ask about puzzles to know whether they are looking for a hint or the actual answer - some people do like to solve stuff themselves.

Given that there is a fan made guide - which you directly refer to - I'm not sure what we have done wrong.

I guess I can play it for you if you want...

Or...

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Despite my rabies I suspect that will only be amusing maybe one more time.
Mostly referring to the posts I found that were screaming at someone for daring to ask for an answer, as well as the people whose answers amounted to "you don't remember every line of dialog you've read since playing the game". Like there weren't even references to where most of the answers would be. Something along the lines of referencing the word trinity for the first two, a reference to music for the third, a reference to numbers for the fourth(seriously I was putting in actual names). The fifth one was at least released and required in THIS update but Christ the rest of that was neither clever(seriously why would I even think layers of Hell for a terminal?) nor satisfying to solve, just felt like work.

And to the dev: fine make your game, honestly did like it before you decided not memorizing a 20+alphanumeric combination from at least a month ago was "not paying attention".
 

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Selebus, since you are in the thread, where did you get the music from? I very much enjoyed most of the tracks, like AsobeatSex2 and beginningoftheend.
 

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Selebus, since you are in the thread, where did you get the music from? I very much enjoyed most of the tracks, like AsobeatSex2 and beginningoftheend.
All over the place. Been collecting royalty free stuff for years. A list of artist credits is available in the About section on the main menu.
 
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