The one labeled "backwardsdancing.mp3" which is just "Retrospect" in reverse. Only shows up during Everything is Connected.
Then they have themselves to blame when they inevitably run across content they don't want to see. I didn't compare it to the horror elements, I stated a simple fact. The horror elements are the single biggest reason people drop the game and half the comments announcing a drop state it was because they ran face first into a horror element and got scared by it too much to continue. The people that did run into these elements would not have if they read the thread first as they should have done to see if the game contains anything they don't like unless the decided to chance it after reading. The same applies to the Cafe Mocha warning/beach event betrayal situation except there is no chancing it. If the player reads the thread, they will see the single most talked about topic in the entire game and avoid doing Schadenfreude before the beach event.
It is in effect regardless of actually triggering Cafe Mocha as long as the beach event has not been triggered. There is no flag in Cafe Mocha that states 'If $Cafe15 = 1 then $Rinpromise = 1' or something along those lines, so it is triggered by the time of the beach event regardless of actually seeing Cafe Mocha. That was a very rough exxample of an if/then statement that could be used as such a flag, but it gets my point across.
It is possible, your comment also mentions the word fingered, which tells me it isn't Maya because she has no events with player Sensei in that regard.
Might want to sleep with your eyes open, she's not the only one who is a potential threat thanks to certain happenings at the beach event.
Not really on the teacher justification, I mean what else is going to happen when that one teacher is practically the only guy in town and teaches at an all girls school. However, this is literally her confidant on her feelings, the one person she trusted with what could be her biggest secret. Yeah, if you have knowledge of a secret crush and then romace the target of that crush, it is betrayal. She's blindsided not just because player Sensei broke his promise, but by the combination of that and the realization Chika doesn't feel the same toward Rin as Rin does toward Chika because of him, because he went and did the one thing she asked him not to. He is the sole cause of her rejection regardless of the promise being broken or not, but it becomes betrayal when his role goes from passive in that Chika's feelings for player Sensei develop on their own to active in that player Sensei actively helps push her twoard him by going into the Schadenfreude event. The gameplay loop trap is something that I've seen multiple games promise, real consequences, but never deliver until this game. This is the one time I have seen what could be irreversible damage as a result of player action or inaction. This means players can't just put off a girl for later and expect her to be obtainable in the same way or on the same level as if you go for her from the start, at least not those with lockouts, because another girl might just trigger that lockout like with Schadenfreude. You have to play smart with this game, I like that.
There actually isn't that big a wait between scenes. I actually have the opposite issue, too much affection leading me into a near constant flow of scenes and very little actual control. If you're having to wait for a scene, you probably need to unlock a prerequisite. There is a trigger list in the thread here that will tell you what scene is needed for what other scene and I'm sure some here could help. When I do run into a point where I can choose things like going to the different locations, I often end up just stumbling into scenes, so I am not one of those people because I don't see what triggers what when I do stumble into scenes.
The guilt you talk about is the gameplay loop trap talked about just above you. This is intentional. Often times, a player can just justify actions by using the 'it's just a game' logic, but this game uses that against you. This leads to very real consequences if you choose wrong, which is something not a lot of games do.
Agreed on your last point, this is literally on its 11th release and only the 4th? since the schedule opened up to twice a month. There is a LONG way to go and the way it plays now won't be the only way to play in the future. Selebus has stated we may not even be 5% done as of 0.11.0.
Nope, she literally just started her sexual development and not much has been done otherwise. We still don't even know what her issue is or what caused it. I'm still theorizing some sort of PTSD or other trauma from a previous incident in her life.
Actually, the 'happy' events are plot essential, so calling them unnecessary is incorrect. In fact, the 'happy' events are where a lot of important information is found. Also, NEVER assume information doesn't need to be written down in ANY game like this and NEVER erase it if you do write it down unless it has been used in game. I made that mistake in 0.11.0 and spent several hours trying to figure out a certain 0.11.0 main event because of it.
We aren't spoonfeeding answers because we would rather players actually try to play. It's the same logic as the people who pop in and ask for a save the second they download a game. Also, we are not rabid, but some of us will defend Selebus and the game when it is deemed necessary. Also, there is typically a period in which no answers are given in this thread for a specific update, that being the month in which that update is patron only. Some of us refuse to help anyone who cannot be confirmed a patron in this case, some of us simply keep our mouths shut to anyone until the update is in its public phase. I, for example, am among the latter. I have no problem helping in public update events, but I keep my mouth shut for anything in the current patron only update.
Selebus actually cares A LOT about feedback, as long as it doesn't directly oppose his vision, of course. What you consider meaningful may actually be in opposition to what Selebus has planned. Sound plays an essential role in the game, so accessibility issues involving it are a no play situation in this game. I hate to say this because I would rather welcome all into the player base, but you might as well drop now, a new puzzle is a guarantee, the only question is when, and there will be no change to the difficulty. If you can't figure it out, you lack the information necessary to solve it either because you failed to gather it or you failed to keep it somewhere accessible. It isn't Selebus's problem if you can't solve something you should have gotten all the answers to by that point. Every puzzle has had its answers readily available within other events. If you skipped through them, it is your own fault if you get stuck in a puzzle. Not trying to be mean, I'm just telling it like it is.
Lust events only and only after seeing them once so that the animations don't distract from the writing.
Damn right, the whole point of a puzzle is to figure it out, not to be spoon fed answers.
It'll get there, this is Selebus we're talking about.
That depends, did you make sure not to take certain actions when told not to? Did you take every opportunity presented when nothing else is in your way? If the answer to both is yes, you probably didn't miss anything. Also, if the event tracker shows green on every event in every category, then yes, you got it all correctly.
Probably? No, they are at the end, in dead last. That's not to say the scenes are bad, just that they are the least focused on element in the game.
No, they are only repeatable in game with animation. They are static in all other situations.
I know you were asking Selebus, but I figured I would chime in on that as well. For me, the main menu track and the one in the third Chapter 2 event. It hits the Christmas vibe really well, yet it has that modern feel as well and the main menu track gives me this physical reaction like my body knows I'm starting Lessons in Love, my ears have been trained to the point of immediate recognition, though I don't react unless I hear it from the game, oddly enough. Both of those are my favorites.
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Oh, man, we can always count on alex2011 to compose a terrifyingly overwhelming wall of text. I despise emojis with passion, but for the sake of demonstrating that I mean no ill will and just poking fun at you:
. I hope you appreciate the anguish I had to go through to insert this abomination.
. I hope you appreciate the anguish I had to go through to insert this abomination.Main menu music had me cringing and second guessing my decision to play this game at first, but definitely grew on me since. AsobeatSex2 I like because it has a "twist" to it, like a hint that "something's wrong". beginningoftheend and BlueAir have feels to it and are vaguely associated with some "revelations". I even had them in my dreams once or twice.
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There is no if/then statement in the code because there isn't any need for it, since you can't actually reach the beach event without triggering Cafe Mocha. But you don't need an if/then statement to understand that an event didn't happen before it happened.
I get that a lot and I do try to at least make it easier to read, but sometimes I forget to format it since I'm a little more relaxed on here with that.Oh, man, we can always count on alex2011 to compose a terrifyingly overwhelming wall of text. I despise emojis with passion, but for the sake of demonstrating that I mean no ill will and just poking fun at you:
Main menu music had me cringing and second guessing my decision to play this game at first, but definitely grew on me since. AsobeatSex2 I like because it has a "twist" to it, like a hint that "something's wrong". beginningoftheend and BlueAir have feels to it and are vaguely associated with some "revelations". I even had them in my dreams once or twice.
Actually, yes, you can trigger the beach event without Cafe Mocha having been seen. It is not listed on the trigger list for the very first event that takes place during the beach trip, a group of events that trigger back to back that are collectively called the beach event as they all take place during this trip at the beach that serves as the destination for said trip. The promise is in effect regardless and Schadenfreude having been triggered before this trip is a betrayal.
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It's not directly stated in the event list, but I am fairly sure you can't get Sock Fetish without going through Missing plotline first, and you can't get that without triggering Cafe Mocha.
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Man all this back and forth about puzzles while I'm just asking "who is best girl and why is it Chika?"
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The only change in this area that I would like to see Selebus make in this area would be adding something to the game's introductory text saying that sound is not optional.
Sock Fetish is 25+ affection with Rin and is player triggered at the dorm, no mention of any other event, however, you are correct on Missing, it requires Cafe Mocha. That said, the Missing plotline is not required for the beach event. Sock Fetish is required, but it is the only Rin specific event required.
I'll pop over to my SubscribeStar tab in a second and take a look, but you might already be able to guess my choice already. Hint, my sadistic side is piqued by her mere presence in this picture. Gee, where have I mentioned becoming sadistic before and to what kind of character?
I'm sorry, but I think you misspelled Rin.
Seriously though, my own personal bias on best girl aside, Chika's a good girl, a little too good for her own good sometimes. I like that about her. It tells me she's the type who would do literally anything necessary within her power at the time to help when someone is in need. She'd probably sell her own immune system to cure Chinami if that would help. She knows she can trust Yumi to take care of Chinami if something happens, so that probably isn't an issue. The only real issue stopping her is that it wouldn't help since that's just not how current medical tech works.I mean, that applies to everything except playing the game, so it is kind of redundant.
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Bro, first you say its just unnecessary gibberish, then say they gave you info you will need later.
Which one is it?
Also, they downright told you to remember and not share it in more than one event.
-A rabid fan that has criticized the secret events.
"Muh gatekeeping" all that is asked is to fucking read. How are we gatekeeping you? Sorry not everything is handed to you on a silver plate.
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It really isn't. Many players of the games on here mute everything by default and should be explicitly told that it's a bad idea. Up until the current update, it might have meant a sub-optimal experience from Selebus' perspective, but it was still optional. It is now required to progress.
I've played at least a hundred games here and it's the first time I've encountered anything of the kind. It is not reasonable to assume players understand the importance of sound in the game.
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Well, I checked the script, and here's a direct quote:
Since rindorm25 is Sock Fetish, rindorm20 is Delirium, and you can't trigger that without starting Missing plotline, I am pretty sure you do need Cafe Mocha to get to Sock Fetish and, consequentially, to beach event.
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I kind of agree. I started playing with music on because, A-after checking with headphones, there are no moans and B-I love the music.
I'm more interested in finding out how the umbrella girl, as I like to call her, knows about things.
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God told her, probably.I'm more interested in finding out how the umbrella girl, as I like to call her, knows about things.
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I was only mildly upset i had to have the audio on high enough to make out the words...ear issues and living with other people means you got to play when alone... also the start menu is to damn loud, like stun protestors with a sonic gun loud when the speakers are at 5%. Not really complaints I guess... I have panic attacks caused by starting the game on the home screen more than the game play itself
Exactly, all we ask is that an effort is made to complete the game using the tools provided by said game.
I've played games that require or use sound in some way to assist the player. That's what audio cues in shooters and similar game types do. We're all gamers here to one extent or another, some obviously more so, no offense to those who aren't, and we should know better than to take away any of our senses in the middle of a game. Not to mention the music, they're missing out on some good stuff if they mute. I actually just recently discovered which track had my favorite in game music and I've had it on loop all night out of the game. Not quite the same, but it is good for the creative flow.
Ah, now we're getting deeper into the web, I would love to know how Selebus keeps track of all this for reference because this is not the only case where there is an entire web of events connected in one way or another. I see where you're going with this now. This leaves no excuse for the betrayal of Rin, then, since Cafe Mocha is a distantly required event and contains two warnings not to go after Chika.
I'm not so sure she sees Otoha that way, it seems more like a musician/fan relationship than anything else. Plus we have no confirmation she's actually moved on from Chika yet. That stuff needs time and she got it worse than most with her mental illness and the way things played out.
Umbrella girl?I'm more interested in finding out how the umbrella girl, as I like to call her, knows about things.
Maybe it was HOPE-Sama, maybe she is connected to him.
It does make me jump occasionally around the system audio 45% range and game audio at default, especially since it loves to not open the game on top of my other open windows. I always use headphones, so privacy isn't an issue, but I might lose an eardrum if this keeps up. Then there was that loud bang that triggered Miku's first panic attack. That made me jump about ten feet, my heart beat like I just got done running a mile, and my ears ring for about five minutes. I learned my lesson after that, NEVER have the system volume above 40% at default game volume levels.