It is entirely possible, she has shown potential as a yandere, which do betray their love interests if their love interest is caught involved with someone else.
At the time of my original comment there was no way to follow the promise which was my original problem. Me and sensei are not one and the same. He makes promises I wouldn't make and does things I wouldn't do. Sure I have some sort of vague control of where he goes and who he visits but other than that things that he does and says doesn't always reflect what I would do and what I believe. Forcing the player to make a promise instead of just saying no, or at the very least not having an option to say "Ay yo I been waiting for several in game months and you ain't made your move. If you don't do it someone else will."
There is a way around the lockout now and there has been for a while now.
Yes, the player plays as player Sensei, not in third person perspective as some outside being or narrator, so the player is in fact player Sensei. Just because you as a real person would not do what he would does not mean you as the player don't play as him, it is not you as the player who is the main character, it is him, but you still play as that character.
As for forcing the promise, it's either that or you automatically get locked out of Rin because hurting her emotionally is the catalyst for the lockout. Breaking the promise and refusing the promise have exactly the same outcome, the only difference is how she got there and when.
It's basically a choice of lockout now when she asks you not to or lockout later when she finds out you did it anyway. Also, a choice there would be useless because you as the player could already choose not to go to the trigger location of the locking event before the event that seals your fate with regard to Rin.
The only remaining option is to follow the promise and avoid the lockout.
For me, it's that I'll play a game just for fun gameplay (obviously; many games don't have much of a story) or a game with good story and alright gameplay... and, honestly, a game with just alright gameplay when I'm depressed or avoiding something.
VN "gameplay" is generally not in the "fun" category for me, or in many cases even "gameplay", so all it has is story. And, I understand that's the point. And I read books, which are all story. And some VNs are as well written as good books, but they're the minority, and even then they're a completely different format that tells the story differently. And I don't enjoy that format as much; probably the same reason I don't read comic books.
Except ones with porn in
Plus, I'll be watching porn anyway. And I have never ever ever seen a porn film with anything close to even resembling a compelling story (again, it's rarely the point) so VNs are a nice fusion. Where during the porn scenes the characters also mean something to me.
It adds that extra oomph to draw me in.
I've already mentioned some of the story elements I like in this game. Mostly related to the deconstruction of the setting, but also it has actual funny humor. Like, this is one of the few VNs where I directly enjoy the story between the porn scenes, rather than as a connector between and giving context to the porn scenes.
But, I also do hope my biggest pornographic proclivity makes it into the game; the proclivity is pretty vanilla these days. And weird as it seems, for the reasons above, it actually does improve my enjoyment of the story.
But, I definitely still 100% enjoy the updates that are 5% porn and 95% story
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Why? There is only one guy in the banner and thats you...or are you from the prude faction who dont let girls have fun with other girls?
Selebus
Dont waste too much time with making more h-scenes for the girls you already can have repeatable sex with, as you said, its a bonus and personally i enjoy the story and the way to their hearts/beds much more...but since there are already so many girls you can seduce, the few girls you cant feel a little stuck/incomplete. I dont know how others play the adult part, mostly because i dont care, but every time i play a horny asshole (=having multiple girls without letting them know about the others) i focus on getting/unlocking the scenes, not on repeating them (the exception: i have to wait for a specific ingame time/day/week/event, then i prefer to fill the spare time with the scenes i liked most instead of sleep/wait), in other words, i'm in for the hunt, not for the cooking and i always prefer story updates over sex updates ^^
Well, the banner is The Last Supper. I'm not super familiar with the painting, but I am guessing Ayane is sitting in Judas' spot?
There are likely to be more for the ones with scenes already, not all of them have a penetrative scene yet. The rest will get their scenes as well when the story allows.
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Ami's dream aside, I think Ayane and Makoto's fit well into the story. For Ayane, in the prologue Sensei says that he is liking this World, with a cute girl throwing herself at him, while others will take some work for it. That makes the whole "this wolrd was made for you" meaningful in the long-run.
With Makoto it makes Bluejay make more sense and impactful, since Sensei's behavior with her had been consistently about wanting to get laid and being a dick.
So, don't worry too much about the brginning. It makes sense and leaves an impression in time, which is probably what most writers would aim at.
And don't worry about the ones complaining about lack of sex scenes. We will correct them as we have been through the thread.
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SnowyS
Okay, didnt associate a game about HOPE with some random fairy tale, but i think ayane is far to obsessed to betray us...she cant rat us out without losing us, same goes if she kills someone...all she could do is kill herself, but in a resetting world it would not work well in the long run ^^
alex2011
Personally i dont need any penetration, but i know most people think otherwise. Considering the habit of the protagonist to hunt anything in sight it would still be more reasonable for him to try getting started with the girls who dont get him off yet instead of deepening the releationships with the girls that make him cum already. Its not my mindset, its the protagonists, so its his logic that matters.
Okay, didnt associate a game about HOPE with some random fairy tale, but i think ayane is far to obsessed to betray us...she cant rat us out without losing us, same goes if she kills someone...all she could do is kill herself, but in a resetting world it would not work well in the long run ^^
alex2011
Personally i dont need any penetration, but i know most people think otherwise. Considering the habit of the protagonist to hunt anything in sight it would still be more reasonable for him to try getting started with the girls who dont get him off yet instead of deepening the releationships with the girls that make him cum already. Its not my mindset, its the protagonists, so its his logic that matters.
I couldn't agree more and you can definitely count on me to help out if I catch such comments.
I say that because giving it to some and not others when everyone is supposed to have sex scenes eventually doesn't make sense. It isn't needed, but it leaves an impression that something is missing if they aren't all to a similar level by the end of their sexual progression.
He does go after anything in sight, but he isn't stupid enough to rush things, which is why the girls with no scenes have no scenes. Those girls aren't ready to go that far with him. He will get started with them when he feels they are ready, he literally just started on one of them not that long ago, Miku, who let him touch her, but isn't fully comfortable with even that yet. You can tell by the way she reacts in that scene that she isn't ready for most things he would want to do with her.
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I am one of the people who read the context, so i know and understand that he takes the time they need. But "being in the head" of a protagonist like this also leads to spending more time with the girls he cant get off with to shorten his ToDo list instead of spending more time with the girls he already is intimate with just to do even more with them ^^
Again, not my mindset, but his. Based on the thoughts and acts he already has done, he prefers quantity over quality.
Again, not my mindset, but his. Based on the thoughts and acts he already has done, he prefers quantity over quality.
He'll spend more time with them, we get events of that type every update with at least one being with a girl who hasn't even started to show they are ready, but we probably won't be seeing lust events for a while with some, especially Rin and Yumi, they're likely to be the last because of circumstances that occur in game.
Yes, the notorious orgy known as the last supper
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it is commonly noted, but also buried in this thread somewhere, that Ayane and Ami should actually swap seats if we were to take the last supper roles seriously.
From now on I will always consider this to be the true subtext of the last supper.
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No, but the double standard is weird. When you're fucking whole school (not yet, but that seems to be the long term plan), but expect that everyone should be faithful to you... that doesn't sound entirely reasonable. I always love this with other games, MC fucking everyone is fine, but as soon as one NPC lays eyes on someone else, there are screams about the N-word.
Also in this case, I think it was more about what will Ayane do after she learns that Sensei is cheating bastard.