Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

[Virulenz]

cakeny
Its the definition of cheating that i call prude.
I dont see anything wrong if girls having fun with girls. No guy could ever feel, smell, taste, ... like a girl, so its just narrow minded to stop a girl who likes both from having girls for fun. Even an insanely jealous guy should accept that forced loyality cant work for both genders...and some may even be up for some threesomes, there is more to win then to lose.
I can understand if guys dont want other guys in their girls, especially considering the simple biological risk of pregnancy, but other girls? Thats just prude or an unhealthy possessive mentality...but it would fit to the many slavery games on f95, so i dont judge...

P.S:
I'm the opposite. I am pure lesbian and have not the slightest problem if my partner and other girls have fun with other girls. But i am strictly against guys...not because of some stupid jealousy, just because it would be far too disgusting for me to ever go down on the girls again. Thats why i hunt only for lesbians, not for bi or straight girls who just want to experiment, except for virgins who want their first experiment with a girl ^^

In games i learned to handle playing male protagonists, but this whole cheating, swinging, sharing, ntr crap disqualifies every game for me, except for avoidables. The maximum amount of dicks i can handle in a game is one...thats one more than in reality ^^

 

[anoterfuckingmaster]

I did the math and, at least from a sheer event number perspective, this game is 14% sexual content. Factoring in word count, since a lot of the story-heavy scenes greatly surpass the word count of sex scenes, I'd think I'd put it somewhere in the realm of 7%-8% sexual content when I'd want it to be closer to 5%.

The route that we're in now will stay relatively tame. This is not a fetish-based game and, being pretty vanilla myself, I don't have much interest in exploring most of the sexual options that many people have requested. There are plenty of threesomes and group activities to be had in the future (How far into the future I can't say), but don't expect anything on the extreme side for quite some time.

Some sexual content in the dark route will be significantly less tame.

I consider this game a VN/eroge first and foremost. Despite some Western influence in the gameplay structure, the actual story elements are greatly inspired by Japanese VNs with extremely long run-times and minimal sex scenes. I don't like calling it a porn game because that is not (And never will be) the focus. Sex is great bonus material and helps players connect with the characters on an awesome level, but the last thing I want is for people to only play this game looking to get off. That completely contradicts one of the most prevalent themes in the game.

I also learned in 0.13.0 Part 1 that I fucking despise writing so many sex scenes at once. Half of that update was porn and it was the least fun I have had working on the game thus far. I'm feeling a lot better with the update I'm working on now since I can focus on the characters again instead.


I'm not saying that at all. I think sex is an excellent tool for character building and can work wonders in forming more pertinent bonds between parties. And all of the VNs that inspired me to start making things of my own used their sexual elements wonderfully. Hell, my second favorite visual novel doesn't have any sexual content for at least like fifty hours.

Like you said, if it weren't for the porn, most people would have never given this a shot. But now that they have and now that the game has started to depart more and more from that, looking back on a lot of those earlier scenes makes me kick myself for incorporating them when I did, since so much of it was for the sheer purpose of audience gratification. If I were to start over, the Ami dream sequence never would have happened, Ayane would have taken much longer to bed, and Makoto's early h-scenes would have been a lot less shoehorned in.

Thank you for the detailed response . Ya this definitely paced like a vn which im a fan of in generall and since you have the writing skills to keep it engaging . I can see your point about the beginning I think just putting a note explaing that this is the opening and that scenes will be less common from then on can mitigate the problem.

I personally don't care about the amount of scenes as long as there's a good build up pay off and the drama afterwards and you've nailed that so far ,The beach house is probably the first time iv been shook while playing a sex scene and the whole Blue Jay event was just *chef kiss* .

While the overarching mystery definitely has me interested. It's the characters and the anticipation of seeing the fallout of senesi choices is what got me hooked.

Anyways you've got me sold on this and I can't wait to see what's next .

 

[Dgunslinger]

Not sure if its just me, but the mega download or Mac didnt work

 

[Budoop]

So the TLR for sexual content is: Selebus lured us in with debauchery and now we must bare witness to the lack of god.

 

[JMccovery]

Also in this case, I think it was more about what will Ayane do after she learns that Sensei is cheating bastard.

TBH, I wouldn't be worried about what Ayane would do, I'd be worried about what Ami would do, especially if she finds out about deflowering Makoto. Ami's seriously unhinged.

 

[feeling_quarantired]

TBH, I wouldn't be worried about what Ayane would do, I'd be worried about what Ami would do, especially if she finds out about deflowering Makoto. Ami's seriously unhinged.

Yeah, I have a feeling that Ami threatening to kill people all the time will stop being a running gag and turn into something she actually tries to do at some point.

 

[cakeny]

cakeny
Its the definition of cheating that i call prude.
I dont see anything wrong if girls having fun with girls. No guy could ever feel, smell, taste, ... like a girl, so its just narrow minded to stop a girl who likes both from having girls for fun. Even an insanely jealous guy should accept that forced loyality cant work for both genders...and some may even be up for some threesomes, there is more to win then to lose.
I can understand if guys dont want other guys in their girls, especially considering the simple biological risk of pregnancy, but other girls? Thats just prude or an unhealthy possessive mentality...but it would fit to the many slavery games on f95, so i dont judge...

P.S:
I'm the opposite. I am pure lesbian and have not the slightest problem if my partner and other girls have fun with other girls. But i am strictly against guys...not because of some stupid jealousy, just because it would be far too disgusting for me to ever go down on the girls again. Thats why i hunt only for lesbians, not for bi or straight girls who just want to experiment, except for virgins who want their first experiment with a girl ^^

In games i learned to handle playing male protagonists, but this whole cheating, swinging, sharing, ntr crap disqualifies every game for me, except for avoidables. The maximum amount of dicks i can handle in a game is one...thats one more than in reality ^^

Well to be fair most of these games are about power fantasies/wish fulfillment. Personally, I wouldn't want LIs involved with anyone else man or woman.

 

[CASSD]

Ok i tried playing this several times and everytime i try to save i get a error does anyone else have this or know how to fix it

 

[Deleted member 1697433]

Ok i tried playing this several times and everytime i try to save i get a error does anyone else have this or know how to fix it

I haven’t heard of that before but it sounds like your directory might be corrupted if saving is causing an issue. There’s nothing in the actual game that would cause that. How are you extracting it exactly?

 

[CASSD]

I haven’t heard of that before but it sounds like your directory might be corrupted if saving is causing an issue. There’s nothing in the actual game that would cause that. How are you extracting it exactly?

I'm extracting it with winrar I had the problem before with one game before it was a easy fix I just redownload but I tried that already and have the same problem every time I try to save it but if anything may just give up on this one

 

[Deleted member 1697433]

I'm extracting it with winrar I had the problem before with one game before it was a easy fix I just redownload but I tried that already and have the same problem every time I try to save it but if anything may just give up on this one

Yeah if it's still happening for you and you haven't messed with anything in your appdata folder then I have no idea why.

 

[DrFree]

I'm extracting it with winrar I had the problem before with one game before it was a easy fix I just redownload but I tried that already and have the same problem every time I try to save it but if anything may just give up on this one

Does it crash whenever you it auto-saves as well? That triggers whenever you reach an option, like when navigating to visit one of the girls and such.
Although even if it just happens when you save it manually, I dunno what it could be...

Ah, why don't you try to delete your saves in the Renpy folder?
Its in this direction: C:\Users\USER\AppData\Roaming\RenPy
And in the case of this game, in the folder ``Test2-1577602671`` I think.
Delete those files, then try saving on your new game.

 

[Virulenz]

CASSD
Sounds like a full/dying HDD or missing rights. The Game itself is not the Problem, otherwise there would be hundreds of posts complaining about it ^^
You could post the error, check your security settings, run checkdisk or try to play from an other HDD.

 

[cakeny]

CASSD
Sounds like a full/dying HDD or missing rights. The Game itself is not the Problem, otherwise there would be hundreds of posts complaining about it ^^
You could post the error, check your security settings, run checkdisk or try to play from an other HDD.

Surprised no asked what error was before trying to post solutions.

 

[Virulenz]

Thank you for assuming it already is the solution. I only hinted the first logical steps to reduce the most possible reasons of the error.

 

[alex2011]

No, but the double standard is weird. When you're fucking whole school (not yet, but that seems to be the long term plan), but expect that everyone should be faithful to you... that doesn't sound entirely reasonable. I always love this with other games, MC fucking everyone is fine, but as soon as one NPC lays eyes on someone else, there are screams about the N-word.

Also in this case, I think it was more about what will Ayane do after she learns that Sensei is cheating bastard.

cakeny
Its the definition of cheating that i call prude.
I dont see anything wrong if girls having fun with girls. No guy could ever feel, smell, taste, ... like a girl, so its just narrow minded to stop a girl who likes both from having girls for fun. Even an insanely jealous guy should accept that forced loyality cant work for both genders...and some may even be up for some threesomes, there is more to win then to lose.
I can understand if guys dont want other guys in their girls, especially considering the simple biological risk of pregnancy, but other girls? Thats just prude or an unhealthy possessive mentality...but it would fit to the many slavery games on f95, so i dont judge...

P.S:
I'm the opposite. I am pure lesbian and have not the slightest problem if my partner and other girls have fun with other girls. But i am strictly against guys...not because of some stupid jealousy, just because it would be far too disgusting for me to ever go down on the girls again. Thats why i hunt only for lesbians, not for bi or straight girls who just want to experiment, except for virgins who want their first experiment with a girl ^^

In games i learned to handle playing male protagonists, but this whole cheating, swinging, sharing, ntr crap disqualifies every game for me, except for avoidables. The maximum amount of dicks i can handle in a game is one...thats one more than in reality ^^

To be fair, there is only one girl known to like other girls and she isn't one of the ones player Sensei has gotten anywhere with so far, so it wouldn't make sense until they are totally corrupted assuming total corruption to the point where their orientation is no longer of consequence even happens.

There's also a couple in particular who would rather have player Sensei alone with the potential to take extreme measures to make that happen and player Sensei himself does seem like the potentially possessive type.

That said, having fun with other girls could happen in the form of FFM threesomes at this point, but only player Sensei himself seems like the type to cheat.

TBH, I wouldn't be worried about what Ayane would do, I'd be worried about what Ami would do, especially if she finds out about deflowering Makoto. Ami's seriously unhinged.

Yeah, I have a feeling that Ami threatening to kill people all the time will stop being a running gag and turn into something she actually tries to do at some point.

They both have serious potential as a yandere, Ami is more of a closet yandere to Ayane's full blown classic yandere minus the creepy possessive talk around or when talking about their love interest, but both have equal potential to prove deadly.

 

[Mazewayuta]

This game is really great. I would argue that good writing/story-- having that emotional connection makes for a much greater fapping session. Sure, it takes some time to grind it out and there can always be optimizations made to lessen that burden, but the fact that you don't immediately bone everybody or have some special requirements adds much more to the immersion as you wouldn't obviously just be able to do this sort of thing in real life. It also makes each character more unique that way, which leaves much stronger connections. I'm assuming you *do* get to bone everybody though? It's a world especially made for a player after all and Sensei has made it clear he's down to bone every single one here, even if that might have some consequences which I'm all for if it would spice things up a notch. I'm only done with half of the game but my favorite so far has got to be ironically the ones that are obviously shown to be much harder to get like Yumi and Maya who seems to absolutely hate Sensei, if and when they do get lewd scenes the pay off would be so much greater when they do come. Still, I would say everybody is equally great and the choices of personalities from different backgrounds you can hopefully eventually pick from really is amazing. At least, I hope he does eventually get to. The fact that Sensei even held off from penetrating Makoto-- to her absolute despair, but she still seems to like it maybe hinting that she's slightly masochistic. The way the game did this is much more natural instead of what you'd typically see in others: "I'm actually masochistic, choke me daddy." Way, way too boring. Show don't tell.

Lastly, I know the creator has talked about the lewd scenes being the icing on the cake and not the entire thing ( with him being vanilla himself ) and I completely agree with that but I do hope that doesn't mean they'll be phased out completely in the future as that would make my penis very sad. Doing completely great so far though. The context behind each scenario makes it so much hotter than just a random fetish pushed in suddenly. I hope he comes up with much more clever sex scenes. I feel bad being unable to pay for this but this is probably one of the first eroges I'd pay for if I had the cash.

 

[JMccovery]

They both have serious potential as a yandere, Ami is more of a closet yandere to Ayane's full blown classic yandere minus the creepy possessive talk around or when talking about their love interest, but both have equal potential to prove deadly.

I expect Ayane to hurt herself instead of Sensei or others, but Ami, those twintails are fucking homicidal. She kinda reminds me of Kaede from Shuffle!, or at least she's getting to that point (if anyone hasn't watched Shuffle!, watch it, I think it's good; also 'acquire' the VN, it's good too).

Edit: Also, the way Sensei describes his brother's and sister-in-law's death can be fucking brutal at times.

 

[alex2011]

This game is really great. I would argue that good writing/story-- having that emotional connection makes for a much greater fapping session. Sure, it takes some time to grind it out and there can always be optimizations made to lessen that burden, but the fact that you don't immediately bone everybody or have some special requirements adds much more to the immersion as you wouldn't obviously just be able to do this sort of thing in real life. It also makes each character more unique that way, which leaves much stronger connections. I'm assuming you *do* get to bone everybody though? It's a world especially made for a player after all and Sensei has made it clear he's down to bone every single one here, even if that might have some consequences which I'm all for if it would spice things up a notch. I'm only done with half of the game but my favorite so far has got to be ironically the ones that are obviously shown to be much harder to get like Yumi and Maya who seems to absolutely hate Sensei, if and when they do get lewd scenes the pay off would be so much greater when they do come. Still, I would say everybody is equally great and the choices of personalities from different backgrounds you can hopefully eventually pick from really is amazing. At least, I hope he does eventually get to. The fact that Sensei even held off from penetrating Makoto-- to her absolute despair, but she still seems to like it maybe hinting that she's slightly masochistic. The way the game did this is much more natural instead of what you'd typically see in others: "I'm actually masochistic, choke me daddy." Way, way too boring. Show don't tell.

Lastly, I know the creator has talked about the lewd scenes being the icing on the cake and not the entire thing ( with him being vanilla himself ) and I completely agree with that but I do hope that doesn't mean they'll be phased out completely in the future as that would make my penis very sad. Doing completely great so far though. The context behind each scenario makes it so much hotter than just a random fetish pushed in suddenly. I hope he comes up with much more clever sex scenes. I feel bad being unable to pay for this but this is probably one of the first eroges I'd pay for if I had the cash.

Lewd scenes likely won't be phased out, they just won't be as abundant or frequent as a game with sex just for the sake of sex and they will happen only when they fit with the story.

I expect Ayane to hurt herself instead of Sensei or others, but Ami, those twintails are fucking homicidal. She kinda reminds me of Kaede from Shuffle!, or at least she's getting to that point (if anyone hasn't watched Shuffle!, watch it, I think it's good; also 'acquire' the VN, it's good too).

Edit: Also, the way Sensei describes his brother's and sister-in-law's death can be fucking brutal at times.

I'd say a double homicide at best for Ayane, she definitely has the classic yandere vibe, she just doesn't obsess over player Sensei to the point of possessive talk when talking about or to him is all. I do see a change happening in her as well, though, that could mean she eventually no longer has the will to carry it out. Ami, yeah, cheaters are as good as dead the second they cheat on her. That jealous fire in her eyes just screams potentially murderous intent.

 

[Budoop]

Ayane would be too obvious considering her typical yandere vibes.

My money is on Ami, she's not just over-possessive of Sensei, but gets genuinely angry whenever anyone with boobs enters the same scene as him.

Not only that but she's insecure.