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Is there anywhere I can find a proper breakdown of this game's story ? I just completed this long ass game yesterday and I still don't understand it well and have a lot of questions. I'll ask some of them off the top of my head.
Why do we seem to blackout a lot around Yumi ? Around everyone else except Maya, they go unnoticed. She doesn't even tell us of our memories like Maya says it causes blackouts. So I'm curious if something's special about her.
On that note, why do we blackout anyways ? Why learning about the past may cause problems, like making us "disappear" in the first place ?
What happened to Makoto in Bluejay ? I was surprised to see her jump, even more surprised to see her come back. Why did she do that ? The reset may have erased the whole event, but shouldn't everything leading up to her feeling suicidal stay ?
What is Yasu's deal ? Maybe it's a problem with me but I just can't understand anything she says, if there's a (deeper) meaning in her speech at all. How much does she know about the events of game, such as the time loop ?
There are a few characters I don't recognize. There's one in the first reset, a girl who looks a lot more anime-ish compared to the rest of the game. There's one in a lot of different events, appearing very briefly as a static flash, I think she had very short grey hair with blue-ish eyes, I don't remember it well. Another one whom we meet at night when we got lost, and later she sells us watermelons at Maya's last event. Who are they ?
What exactly is or was our relationship with Maya ? What happened between us ? Why the two of us are the only people aware of the time loop ? Why does she hate Noriko ? The second beach event had a lot of hints but I couldn't tie them together so I'd appriciate it if someone could tell me the whole story.
Why do we seem to blackout a lot around Yumi ? Around everyone else except Maya, they go unnoticed. She doesn't even tell us of our memories like Maya says it causes blackouts. So I'm curious if something's special about her.
On that note, why do we blackout anyways ? Why learning about the past may cause problems, like making us "disappear" in the first place ?
What happened to Makoto in Bluejay ? I was surprised to see her jump, even more surprised to see her come back. Why did she do that ? The reset may have erased the whole event, but shouldn't everything leading up to her feeling suicidal stay ?
What is Yasu's deal ? Maybe it's a problem with me but I just can't understand anything she says, if there's a (deeper) meaning in her speech at all. How much does she know about the events of game, such as the time loop ?
There are a few characters I don't recognize. There's one in the first reset, a girl who looks a lot more anime-ish compared to the rest of the game. There's one in a lot of different events, appearing very briefly as a static flash, I think she had very short grey hair with blue-ish eyes, I don't remember it well. Another one whom we meet at night when we got lost, and later she sells us watermelons at Maya's last event. Who are they ?
What exactly is or was our relationship with Maya ? What happened between us ? Why the two of us are the only people aware of the time loop ? Why does she hate Noriko ? The second beach event had a lot of hints but I couldn't tie them together so I'd appriciate it if someone could tell me the whole story.
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Maya explains in one event that having too much of the memory jogged at once could cause issues. She even freaks out when it happens at one point. It's why she hates the fact that Noriko's back in the picture.
The fact that it happens a lot around Yumi indicates that there's some history between Yumi and Sensei that we do not yet know about, and it's important. Maya indicates that past versions of Sensei have fooled around with some of the girls in the past, so the reasonable assumption is that Yumi and Sensei were sexually linked in one of the past incarnations of Sensei. And Yumi seems to have a sense that something is off, because she has flat out asked him if he sometimes forgets thing (which immediately prompted him to have one of his blackouts). This is one of the big mysteries of the game, and is currently not explained.
Sensei's eyes were closed the entire time, so what we see is somewhat unreliable. Either she never actually jumped, just dreamed of doing it, and was spooked by how close she got to doing it, or she jumped and someone/something intervened to undo it, and the memory of jumping is what caused her to be so spoked between that moment and the next reset.
Either way, she was utterly spooked, and somewhat broken, by the experience, and appears to have no memory of it after the reset.
Another option occurs to me, and that this may be a case of Makoto replaying (in her mind) an event from a past cycle. We do see hints of alternate past events elsewhere. During the second beach events, Sensei encounters a very submissive version of Yumi that bears no resemblance (beyond physical) to the one we see in game. There's speculation that this was a past cycle, that Sensei was remembering a past version of himself seducing her. If that's accurate, than Makoto could have relived an attempted suicide form a past cycle. This, also, would be adequate reason for why she's so spooked by the experience.
The first girl is a callback to a prior game Selebus started (Life is Beautiful? Nothing is Beautiful, I can't remember the name). I don't think she has any actual significance beyond that.
The second girl you mentioned is new to us, and we don't know any more about her than you do, aside from the fact that it's entirely possible to never meet her. Her first appearance is dependent upon sleeping with Sara, and her second is dependent upon sleeping with Ami, and since it's possible to avoid both, there may be a route where this character doesn't appear at all.
This is something that will likely to be explored more in Chapter 3, but at the moment, it's one of many unanswered questions. There are still two "side character" spots, so she may get promoted from easter egg to side character next chapter.
They were lovers. This much we know. This is spelled out in Baby Finches.
At one point, before Sensei was a teacher, he was a tutor. Noriko was definitely one of his students, and even after Sensei abandoned Niki, Noriko was still secretly getting lessons from him. At some point, Maya started getting lessons from him as well, possibly because of her friendship with Ami. Whatever happened, they took to each other immediately, and soon after that, Sensei vanished from Noriko's life for the second time (the first being when he left Niki).
Maya is more worried for what Noriko represents than who Noriko is. Noriko knows a massive chunk of Sensei's life that Maya can't account for, and as mentioned above, recallling memories is DANGEROUS, and Noriko appears to be intent on reminding Sensei of ALL of it. This could cause Sensei to lose himself once again and start the process over (something we know has happened numerous times already). Most of the Maya events in chapter 2 are lore-heavy and provide a lot of this context, especially the dangers presented by memory recovery.
Blatantly so, that part needs to be corrected. As far as any of us know he was killed before he even could be drafted.
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Man, the whole hallucination thing is hilarious. I still laugh whenever I rewatch Sensei confusing Maya with a bird.
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Can you remember the exact scene? I want to replay it. I'd just go hunting myself but main events are just a big long list and you clearly know more than i do to help narrow it down at the very least.
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I believe it's Torrential Downpour, Child of Man.
The one at the beach bar that Touka has flown in and shit starts to get REALLY weird.
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It's been deleted by Patreon. Selebus is appealing, but I don't know how that's going. He hasn't sounded optimistic in his commentary on the issue.
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I think it might be the one 2 or 3 after it (pluto was never really a planet), where Sensei and Yumi sit down at the beach and discuss shit, before that he seems to switch between seeing several Yumi's. The scene you quoted has Yumi in it but she's like her usual self only more robotic and keeps ending each sentence with 'asshole', not very submissive, but one of the brief flashes of Yumi suggests they get intimate first kissing then something more. If i'm wrong and you did mean torrential downpoor, please elaborate on your statement regarding it as i found it a bit confusing given this new information.
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No, you're right. Parts of the two scenes meshed together in my memory, thanks for calling that out.
The "submissive" reference was to this brief moment:
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Since Sensei's perception of reality is severely fraying at this point (evident in both events, which is probably why they got smushed together in my head), it makes me think that he's trying to recall something, which is why I think this is a memory of a past-self, not simply daydream/hallucination.
Terminated, likely because the SubscribeStar version was not the same as the Patreon version, they hate it when developers use other sites to distribute versions that don't comply with Patreon rules.
Judging by past cases, things are not looking good in this regard. He has very little chance of getting the Patreon back as the chance after the first violation is usually the last time and the next time they strike is complete and permanent deletion since no developer wants to just scrap their own vision just because Patreon is offering them another chance if they do (for context, this is according to the message Selebus screencapped, Patreon allows developers to return if, after a period of time without being able to run a Patreon page, they can submit to whatever Patreon says to do and their work passes further review).
But didn't Ami say in one of her events in the dorm room that we never tutored Maya ? That event confused me a lot.
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Play that event again. Ami is clearly really upset about you having kept secrets from her (a running theme with her, remember how she reacted when Noriko showed up?). Also if you google the name of the event you may get a bit of context. Ami kept Sensei afloat in his darkest hour.
Hi, I just discovered this game and would like to know if I got it set up correctly. When do I see a difference of the uncensored patch? I tried to run both versions and the content seemed the same.
if it says "The Legend of the Huggy Boy", it's the censored version. If it says Lessons in Love on the main menu then it's the proper uncensored version.