Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.45.0] [Selebus]

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Bingoogus

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I think we could question percentages and income sources forever without for sure getting anywhere useful but everything really just boils down to 'does this place pirating his game cost him more in lost subscribers than it provides through advertisement?'.

If he misses out on $1000 of subscriber money but gains $2000 from this place, he's a fucking idiot to have a problem with the site. If he's only pulling in $10k thanks to this site boosting him up and he'd be lucky to be making $1k without then he's just an asshole that bites the hand that fed him. And lastly, if this place does just cost him money that he would've gotten without this site and he never needed its free advertisement to begin with, why was he so hopeful of making it big here earlier on?

None of it adds up in way that wholly justifies his attitude but it's already been established that he's a douche so is it really a surprise? If he gets this game off this site it's not like i'm going to turn around and start giving him money, leak or no leak i wouldn't spare him a single cent if his life depended on it.
 
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Bingoogus

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worthlesspeon said:
Where do even people find out about this game otherwise? The only place I’ve ever seen it being discussed outside of his personal echo chamber is here. I’m not asking rhetorically. Genuinely curious
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Maybe 4chan? It does have an Itchio page so it'd be discoverable there. I've never seen it outside here myself.
 
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I just noticed I missed the event 'daddy's girl for makoto...
don't know how...
think i might need a save for the game that has all the events to this update
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worthlesspeon said:
Where do even people find out about this game otherwise? The only place I’ve ever seen it being discussed outside of his personal echo chamber is here. I’m not asking rhetorically. Genuinely curious
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i first stumbled upon it on itchi.io in early 2021 and tried to find reddit discussions threads about it. not really much luck. i saw a few posts, presumably by selebus, that were mostly just ignored. whereas many other games receive a good amount of discussion on some of the subreddits there dedicated to adult games and visual novels
 
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hcguy said:
That's between the makers of Koikatsu and Selebus - if they aren't inclined to press a legal case, that's up to them. Selebus has made it very clear that he does not condone the piracy of LiL.
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What do you mean? The reason Selebus hasn't had legal action taken against him is that he's not taking payment for the game, he's taking payment for "supporting" the game and "early access" which is in his right. There will be no legal action from Sel because taking legal action means the commercialisation of the engine, which would open him to legal action.
 
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ciderapple said:
Eh - game is bad now. was good, now it's bad. boring sex game with almost no sex.
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Eh. Sex has never been the main focus of the game. The dev's notes have been included in the original post since, like, forever.

7767 said:
- This is a very long visual novel that is not meant to be used as fap fodder. It is currently over 1.1 MILLION words (As of 0.19.0 Part 2) and less than 10% of that is pornographic.
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You know I find it funny that it's even claimed that it isn't a sex game

Seeing as every event in the game (Literally every single event) mentions the fact that the protagonist either wants to f*ck or molest the girl he's talking to, or their mother, or their classmates. You can't go 2 minutes of reading without Sensei thinking about f*cking someone. Sel's in denial about what it really is

And yeah for sure there's creepy little themes and the happy events, but again they all contain r*pe or sex of some kind. You can't make a game that is entirely based on having sex with schoolgirls and pretend it's something ethically superior than what it is
 
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Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama. (for the record I'm on the "he should chill out" side here)

So anyway! I have some Thoughts about the Daisy stuff that happened in the update
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Jimbolance said:
Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama. (for the record I'm on the "he should chill out" side here)

So anyway! I have some Thoughts about the Daisy stuff that happened in the update
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Jimbolance said:
Welp, I came in here after finishing the latest update hoping to find some discussions about what I thought was a pretty neat and interesting update but instead found all this dumb piracy drama.
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We actually had a healthy discussion going before it got derailed by that. They're a couple pages back at this point.

I do agree that Daisy is probably Teacher's daughter with Sensei, or who she would have been, but she was never actually born (still in the womb when the accident happened). The daisy imagery pretty much ties her directly to Teacher.
 
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Bingoogus said:
I think we could question percentages and income sources forever without for sure getting anywhere useful but everything really just boils down to 'does this place pirating his game cost him more in lost subscribers than it provides through advertisement?'.

If he misses out on $1000 of subscriber money but gains $2000 from this place, he's a fucking idiot to have a problem with the site. If he's only pulling in $10k thanks to this site boosting him up and he'd be lucky to be making $1k without then he's just an asshole that bites the hand that fed him. And lastly, if this place does just cost him money that he would've gotten without this site and he never needed its free advertisement to begin with, why was he so hopeful of making it big here earlier on?

None of it adds up in way that wholly justifies his attitude but it's already been established that he's a douche so is it really a surprise? If he gets this game off this site it's not like i'm going to turn around and start giving him money, leak or no leak i wouldn't spare him a single cent if his life depended on it.
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I still think it would be funny to see the game removed from here, I think you would have a good laugh about it as well on the discord.
 
Axismundi

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ComplexOne2 said:
I still think it would be funny to see the game removed from here, I think you would have a good laugh about it as well on the discord.
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If the game did get removed, the salt that would flow would be hilarious. Unfortunately, the thread probably wouldn't stay up for us to experience it.

But to try to stay on the thread, I was actually very happy that the game let you leave the bad situation for once, but I haven't gone back and clicked the other option yet. What happens if you choose to make a move on her? How bad is it?
 
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Axismundi said:
If the game did get removed, the salt that would flow would be hilarious. Unfortunately, the thread probably wouldn't stay up for us to experience it.

But to try to stay on the thread, I was actually very happy that the game let you leave the bad situation for once, but I haven't gone back and clicked the other option yet. What happens if you choose to make a move on her? How bad is it?
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Well it's not as bad as you expect since
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