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KnowNoHope

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That's the thing, it stopped being scary because it's trying way too hard now.
That's the disappointment.
Yeah it comes across more creepy and disturbing than scary which I'm fine with.
Hp Lovecraft meets Saw only we haven't really gotten the Saw moments yet. (Saw wasn't scary. You can fight me on this. It was just gruesome and shock value disturbing, I still enjoyed it as a film though)
Not really scary compared to Fredy Kruger or Halloween don't really want it to be either. But I get you.
 

vehemental

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Probably in case the string or something else broke, those things hurt when they snap you on the skin like a rubber band (I had a tendency to somehow totally avoid the arm guard when I first started, it wasn't pleasant). Considering where the protector is in this case, that's an even more painful area to have the string, or worse another part of the bow, snap you on.
No, man. It's because that's where the bowstring is supposed to go, because you're supposed to sight down the arrow as much as possible. Here are three pictures of proper form that one simple search on the subject showed. Notice how the boob protector is being compressed:

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Contrast that again with this. It's awful, which would be fine if she was still learning, if it weren't for the caption :KEK:

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Yeah it comes across more creepy and disturbing than scary which I'm fine with.
Hp Lovecraft meets Saw only we haven't really gotten the Saw moments yet. (Saw wasn't scary. You can fight me on this. It was just gruesome and shock value disturbing, I still enjoyed it as a film though)
Not really scary compared to Fredy Kruger or Halloween don't really want it to be either. But I get you.
Even the creepiness and disturbing parts went away, that was the best selling point for me tbh.
I don't give a dam- about any character development, I wanted the HAPPY SCENES.

All I'm seeing now is just Such bizarre imagery, much spooky.
And the absolute worst thing of all, BOOMING SOUNDS OUT OF NOWHERE.

This game isn't trying to make me feel disturbed, creeped out or scared.
It's making me wanna throw the game as hard as I can to the garbage bin out of sheer annoyance.
 

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The denpa stuff has absolutely no effect on me and although it did early on, all i experienced was irritation at it. Now it's just a case of "oh, happy scene, ok". It's either boring or beyond me and i rely on you guys to make sense of all the nonsense. I'm a pretty odd duck though, i don't really have any fear for anything in real life, outside of situations where someone is threatening me with physical violence i'm pretty mute about 'scary' shit (ghosts, spiders, aliens, etc.), the only stuff that ever really gets to me is the deeply existential shit which is a result of my having been completely depersonalised in a fugue state for 4 months many years ago... i've never 100% come back from it and always have a nagging doubt that any of this is real so things that can really stick onto that fact can mess me up, Doki Doki Literature Club was the last thing that did it to me (it's all a simulation)... anything that leaves you questioning the truth of our actual real reality can send my head spinning for days so in a way, denpa is a cute little 'babies first attempt' on training wheels kind of thing compared to what i've gone through.
 
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A Denpa game not keep being scary?
Yeah it comes across more creepy and disturbing than scary
I feel like it's not even that creepy or disturbing anymore. But I feel like it's more of a problem with the length of the game than the game trying too hard. The game played its hand too early, so now most happy events come across as boring and tryhard rather than interesting. Familiarity breeds contempt after all.
 

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Even the creepiness and disturbing parts went away, that was the best selling point for me tbh.
I don't give a dam- about any character development, I wanted the HAPPY SCENES.

All I'm seeing now is just Such bizarre imagery, much spooky.
And the absolute worst thing of all, BOOMING SOUNDS OUT OF NOWHERE.

This game isn't trying to make me feel disturbed, creeped out or scared.
It's making me wanna throw the game as hard as I can to the garbage bin out of sheer annoyance.
For me it switched at the remake. Before, the horror elements were mysterious, atmospheric, and plot focused, with a little bit of gross imagery and body horror thrown in to spice things up. The perfect dish! The happy scenes were also separated from the normal environment, but occurring over top of it in a way that felt like there was a second dimension to the real world that was happening, and there was a balance of power that prevented any of the deities from directly reaching over to the other side in order to maintain a degree of verisimilitude for the "subjects" in the real world. It was great!

Now, after the remake, the gross imagery and body horror has become the primary element - so now the dish just tastes like spice, and the happy scenery has leaked into the main setting so much that none of it feels real any more, it just feels more like a fake simulation where anything goes, which is unfortunate compared to where it was previously. It's not like it got this way over time, either - it was remade to start like this from the beginning.

I probably would have kept playing this game if I started post-remake, but I doubt I would have supported it as much as I did.
 

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For me it switched at the remake. Before, the horror elements were mysterious, atmospheric, and plot focused, with a little bit of gross imagery and body horror thrown in to spice things up. The perfect dish! The happy scenes were also separated from the normal environment, but occurring over top of it in a way that felt like there was a second dimension to the real world that was happening, and there was a balance of power that prevented any of the deities from directly reaching over to the other side in order to maintain a degree of verisimilitude for the "subjects" in the real world. It was great!

Now, after the remake, the gross imagery and body horror has become the primary element - so now the dish just tastes like spice, and the happy scenery has leaked into the main setting so much that none of it feels real any more, it just feels more like a fake simulation where anything goes, which is unfortunate compared to where it was previously. It's not like it got this way over time, either - it was remade to start like this from the beginning.

I probably would have kept playing this game if I started post-remake, but I doubt I would have supported it as much as I did.
That's a really good assessment of where I am at with the game too.
I still find it creepy but it lost a lot from the start and it's like hp Lovecraft light.
 
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i haven't really been following this game in a while has the dev put the game on hold for a bit or something cause this game hasnt been updated since jan and usually it gets updated twice a month
 

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No, man. It's because that's where the bowstring is supposed to go, because you're supposed to sight down the arrow as much as possible. Here are three pictures of proper form that one simple search on the subject showed. Notice how the boob protector is being compressed:

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Contrast that again with this. It's awful, which would be fine if she was still learning, if it weren't for the caption :KEK:

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I could see it being a bit low based on the last picture, the arrow should be cheek level, which is true in all archery styles more or less, at least that was the way I was taught. Also, that arrow is going to arc pretty drastically compared to the third picture, just look at the angle Uta is holding it at relative to the ground you can see behind her. The last time I shot an arrow from an angle like that, I sent my assistant (for collecting arrows because disability) to the far end of the range, luckily there was a berm to prevent the things from traveling out of the range.

Even the creepiness and disturbing parts went away, that was the best selling point for me tbh.
I don't give a dam- about any character development, I wanted the HAPPY SCENES.

All I'm seeing now is just Such bizarre imagery, much spooky.
And the absolute worst thing of all, BOOMING SOUNDS OUT OF NOWHERE.

This game isn't trying to make me feel disturbed, creeped out or scared.
It's making me wanna throw the game as hard as I can to the garbage bin out of sheer annoyance.
I feel like it's not even that creepy or disturbing anymore. But I feel like it's more of a problem with the length of the game than the game trying too hard. The game played its hand too early, so now most happy events come across as boring and tryhard rather than interesting. Familiarity breeds contempt after all.
That's the kind of horror Denpa is. While more well known forms rely on jumpscares or creep factor, that's not how Denpa usually does it.

For me it switched at the remake. Before, the horror elements were mysterious, atmospheric, and plot focused, with a little bit of gross imagery and body horror thrown in to spice things up. The perfect dish! The happy scenes were also separated from the normal environment, but occurring over top of it in a way that felt like there was a second dimension to the real world that was happening, and there was a balance of power that prevented any of the deities from directly reaching over to the other side in order to maintain a degree of verisimilitude for the "subjects" in the real world. It was great!

Now, after the remake, the gross imagery and body horror has become the primary element - so now the dish just tastes like spice, and the happy scenery has leaked into the main setting so much that none of it feels real any more, it just feels more like a fake simulation where anything goes, which is unfortunate compared to where it was previously. It's not like it got this way over time, either - it was remade to start like this from the beginning.

I probably would have kept playing this game if I started post-remake, but I doubt I would have supported it as much as I did.
Separation from the normal environment, or at least what we came to think as normal, was always just a temporary thing. This is how Denpa uses that kind of element, it gradually blends until the normal IS the Denpa. Look at DDLC, a known Denpa game, as the game progressed, the world began to change more and more, characters started acting different, and it all blended until there was little to nothing of the 'normal' world left, such as in the case of the famous classroom scene with just Monika.
 
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Raf-Raf

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That's the kind of horror Denpa is. While more well known forms rely on jumpscares or creep factor, that's not how Denpa usually does it.
I don't think it really counts as horror if all it does is cheap jumpscares and all the creep / scare factor went poof.
I'd rather play FNAF and that has better jumpscares than this.
 

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Then go do that. Seriously, why spend time bitching about a game you clearly don't like and isn't for you.
Ah, that's where you're wrong bud'.
I USED to like this, LOVE even and heck, I was even a huge fan back then.
I'm just voicing my disappointment in recent developments as this streak of disappointments keep continuing.

Criticizing isn't always Bitching as you call it.
I will criticize this game if it's bad, I will praise it if it's good.
How bout you stfu and remove that rose-tinted glasses of yours, yeah?


I'll never be tired of HOPE though, I'm gon' wait until the best waifu is introduced.
Yasu Yasu is just HOPE from WISH.
 
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For me it switched at the remake. Before, the horror elements were mysterious, atmospheric, and plot focused, with a little bit of gross imagery and body horror thrown in to spice things up. The perfect dish! The happy scenes were also separated from the normal environment, but occurring over top of it in a way that felt like there was a second dimension to the real world that was happening, and there was a balance of power that prevented any of the deities from directly reaching over to the other side in order to maintain a degree of verisimilitude for the "subjects" in the real world. It was great!

Now, after the remake, the gross imagery and body horror has become the primary element - so now the dish just tastes like spice, and the happy scenery has leaked into the main setting so much that none of it feels real any more, it just feels more like a fake simulation where anything goes, which is unfortunate compared to where it was previously. It's not like it got this way over time, either - it was remade to start like this from the beginning.

I probably would have kept playing this game if I started post-remake, but I doubt I would have supported it as much as I did.
Same here; much of the remake content to me really seems to be catering solely to the old audience, to fill in what dev considered to be holes in his storytelling. I doubt any new player would have the same shock when they stumble upon their first happy scene because they've played the BREED YOUR NIECE game and known something is really up.

However, I am in fact a fan of having happy theme leaking into normal events. Before that I only need to be en garde during happy time because "I am safe" when I am outside of it, and now you could get caught off guard even during normal time! It's the delusional world corroding the supposedly normal world that gives you the uneasy feeling (but I can totally see people getting desensitized or simply annoyed if all the events just constantly go apeshit and violently flash you with TV static).

Plus, due to the nature of the game, people who got invested WILL start going through happy events with a magnifying glass because that's where all the lore is from. I remembered going through the first few happy events actually having acute mental stress and thinking "no no no what's happening". Now? it's "YAAAAAAAS A HAPPY SCENE!!!!" maybe I'm not playing this game right. When it comes to this, happy events are doomed to be less scary over time and are at best unsettling or just intriguing: in a way, I made them less scary to myself. But hey feeling unsettled alone is enough for me, and having "happy feelings" in normal events really did just that.
 

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Same here; much of the remake content to me really seems to be catering solely to the old audience,
See I feel the exact opposite. The remake seemed to cater to the worst sycophants of his die hards in discord and mainly towards new players. As old players are the ones that tend not to like it as much. It really felt like lowering the quality to match ch 2 and 3s energy to me so new players wouldn't notice how much better/disturbing the start was.
Last time I was in his discord there seem to be a LOT of people that don't want bad things to happen and for it to be more 'tame' which probably explains this but I know it used to not be like that when it first started.
 

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Talking about horror, how do you guys think the deed with Chinami will be? I guess she will be done from the backdoor cuz I don't see her tiny little pussy beign able to even take the tip of mini-Sensei.
 
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Talking about horror, how do you guys think the deed with Chinami will be? I guess she will be done from the backdoor cuz I don't see her tiny little pussy beign able to even take the tip of mini-Sensei.
Yeah if he tries to go through the front door that scene is going to be even more incredibly fucked than it already will be... i'm looking forward to the content if only out of morbid curiosity but i know for a fact i won't be getting a boner from it, that's for sure.
 
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Is the game on hold or is Selebus just completely remaking the game like a mad man? I know he has a fascination with working himself to death. Poor guy really needs a hug and some more coffee at this point.

Either way - looking forward to it.

@Selebus Stay safe, you hear me?
 

k1n5l4y3r

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Is the game on hold or is Selebus just completely remaking the game like a mad man? I know he has a fascination with working himself to death. Poor guy really needs a hug and some more coffee at this point.

Either way - looking forward to it.

@Selebus Stay safe, you hear me?
Selebus took an arrow to the knee if you know what I mean.
 
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