Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[Breadtaker]

The Wire god/USER2 seemed to be implied to be responsible for the Scary Room that Maya went through, and Molly being raped, but Pareidolia may have been impersonating it, since it can apparently copy the others. It also seems to hate Maya, so, trying to traumatize her, seems up it's alley. (May also be The World Itself, as if it's meant to be Sekai, then Sekai seems to hate Maya as well:

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Or at least one does. Probably the one in Kaori considering Kaori ignored Maya.)

Besides that, it doesn't seem all that bad. More of a just doing it's job kind of thing.

I also don't think it was HOPE who called Yasu retarded. This is what HOPE possessing Yasu seems to look like and act:

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HOPE isn't exactly nice to Yasu, but doesn't seem hateful of her or judgemental of Sensei for wanting to fuck her etc.

On the other hand:

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My bets are on this Sekai thing influencing Yasu. Might also be the World Itself that's been mentioned, most notably in Yasu's Chapter 3 Event:

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Which happened to be when Yasu couldn't hear HOPE/her god.

I assumed only HOPE controlled Yasu but no, I think you're completely right. The sunflower and eyes should have been a bigger giveaway.
I feel a little bit better about HOPE which still leaves me somewhere around "extremly concerned". Thanks for making sense of this.

I had a hard time believing whatever spoke through Yaus that night was HOPE. Not only did it sound very colloquial instead of mystical, the direct verbal assault toward Sensei such as "GET REAL, FUCKER" and "Eat shit and die" is so uncharacteristic that I don't even know how to align it with any god or any paranormal entity we have in the pool. At the time I was guessing it might be his human brother, Nozomu Arakawa, because he might be the only person/entity that could have any reason to exhibit such hostility, but don't quote me on this as I was only thinking about any potential incentive and completely disregarding whether his brother showing up like this is remotely possible or not.

As for Wire god, he is the one that can do this so don't put all your money on him just yet lol
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That's an interesting idea. I'm eager to learn more about Sensei's brother but I'm not confident he'll end up being anything more than context for Sekai's relationship with Senei. The hostility is strange though so his brother would certainly explain it.

Maybe I'll be surprised and we'll see our first non-Sensei male character model.

 

[Nadekai]

Why does Kaori ignore Maya?

 

[DeSkel15]

Pretty sure Pareidolia is just voicing out how capable and powerful it has become compared to the two senpais before it, and not insinuating any past event was also from its doing, especially during the time when it didn't have its own season and wasn't powerful enough to perform such feat. At least from Karin incident, what I get is that this "same trick" is pulled twice but by different USERS.

Spoiler: Paranoid

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Pareidolia seems to likely just be gaslighting. Only Pareidolia has claimed others did this.

First it claims it was USER2 (///// guy), then says USER2 wanted Sensei to think it was HOPE (caps lock guy) (which doesn't make much sense at all), then says they all do everything, and that thinking about it, makes it not make sense... after it bragged about it's power, which according to it, is something they all could do, which makes bragging seem a little pointless.

It's basically just saying "it wasn't me, but don't think about it, and make sure to blame the others".

The only one that's actually shown it can and would do this, is Pareidolia. It can apparently do most things. Even before it's season, it showed that it could change appearance and the way it communicated:

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Then when it got what it wanted (Sensei connected, Spring, own Chapter), it immediately revealed it could apparently do whatever.

Could be wrong, but I wouldn't take it at it's word, and there's likely a reason it didn't have a season and wasn't accepted by the others.

Pareidolia definitely likes fucking with Sensei and the player:

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It doesn't seem able to actually affect the stats of the girls, at least. Just pretend it does, like how something pretended it did with Molly, and recently Karin.

It also seems to like pretending it can mess with saves, or that the game ended, because I guess that's fun for it.

 

[Nadekai]

Is sexual intercourse with Ionizer even possible?
Like... does she refuse vehemently, or is there a sliver of a chance?

 

[Riolol]

Why does Kaori ignore Maya?

Probably due to Sekai's influence

 

[Nadekai]

Probably due to Sekai's influence

Why does Sekai hate Maya in the first place

 

[Riolol]

Why does Sekai hate Maya in the first place

In a word: Jealousy. Maya's "death" affected him almost as badly as Sekai's did. I'd bet they hate each other more than any other two characters in the game.

 

[Nadekai]

In a word: Jealousy. Maya's "death" affected him almost as badly as Sekai's did. I'd bet they hate each other more than any other two characters in the game.

What would Sekai be even jealous of? Didn't she abuse Akira? Also, Maya died (not her getting fucked out of existence)?

 

[Riolol]

What would Sekai be even jealous of? Didn't she abuse Akira? Also, Maya died (not her getting fucked out of existence)?

I think she'd be jealous of anyone having that level of influence over him that wasn't her or possibly Ami. Also that is what I meant, Maya "died".

 

[Nadekai]

I think she'd be jealous of anyone having that level of influence over him that wasn't her or possibly Ami. Also that is what I meant, Maya "died".

Wdym Ami? Ami is best niece, she is pure and innocent!

 

[Riolol]

Wdym Ami? Ami is best niece, she is pure and innocent!

I do wonder how Sekai (the alive version) would react to Sensei porking her daughter, would she be proud? Jealous? Angry? Indifferent?

 

[Nadekai]

I do wonder how Sekai (the alive version) would react to Sensei porking her daughter, would she be proud? Jealous? Angry? Indifferent?

She would say: "So the cycle continues..."

On the side note about Ami... What kind of person is she really? We already know that she ain't afraid to become a murder hobo, but aside from that?

I was disappointed by game getting porked by not using DRM patch... I had expected he would whine, proceed to play loud noises, use scary pictures...

 

[Riolol]

She would say: "So the cycle continues..."

On the side note about Ami... What kind of person is she really? We already know that she ain't afraid to become a murder hobo, but aside from that?

I was disappointed by game getting porked by not using DRM patch... I had expected he would whine, proceed to play loud noises, use scary pictures...

She's the kind of person who will repeatedly have sex with the catatonic family member she's supposed to be taking care of, so there's that. I'd say the apple didn't fall far from the tree. It was also implied she would cut off Sensei's best asset if he keeps putting it in other people.

 

[Nadekai]

She's the kind of person who will repeatedly have sex with the catatonic family member she's supposed to be taking care of, so there's that. I'd say the apple didn't fall far from the tree. It was also implied she would cut off Sensei's best asset if he keeps putting it in other people.

But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?

 

[Riolol]

But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?

I have not played the good uncle route but I'm pretty sure it plays out the same way. She grapes him while he's out of it regardless. Good uncle is non-canon anyway.

 

[ratmanirl]

Telling someone about the resets is a trigger for them to recover their memories. Akira tells Makoto about them and that's when she gets the idea to jump. If not for that, she'd have probably just kissed him. But the game was rigged from the start, because even before all that Akira says he's feeling callous that night.

Spoiler: very long In depth look

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Final thoughts: I don't remember what she says about all this, or if HOPE mentions her in the future, haven't made it there in my replay, but going off of this, she seemed to have given herself to HOPE and got a really bad deal out of it. Dude didn't even had the decency to erase her memories when he put her back.

I can't reallly pinpoint just how much insight she gained throughout the scene, or after the incident until the second reset. She was definitely depressed, but I find it very hard to believe that she would ask Akira to be a witness to her suicide out of the blue, in a world where her father still lived.

Well I'm not sure about the mechanics behind it but it seems like Sel had always planned for her to give up and die.

Spoiler: Sel's Commentary on the Scene

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Spoiler: Why Makoto did it in the first place

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Spoiler: If her father would have mattered

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That said, what matters is ultimately your interpretation and honestly I wouldn't really be surprised if Sel decided to retcon his original intent. But here it is in case you are curious.

 

[DeSkel15]

But... what if I am a good uncle and I never decided to mess her organs up?

GU Ami milks Sensei with their prepared sextoy, to the best of her ability, trying to get the demons out of him.

The sanity pack is still a thing in either route:

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Ami just isn't allowed to use her own body over the 2 months, in the GU route.

 

[Nadekai]

GU Ami milks Sensei with their prepared sextoy, to the best of her ability, trying to get the demons out of him.

The sanity pack is still a thing in either route:

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Ami just isn't allowed to use her own body over the 2 months, in the GU route.

I want a sanity pack too

 

[DeSkel15]

I want a sanity pack too

Hopefully you don't need one... the bucket is for Sensei's waste. Ami was helping him go the bathroom when she wasn't feeding, milking, or securing him. (Or reading him bedtime stories, etc.)

 

[Nadekai]

How do I get this?