Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Marie IV]

[...] it takes more than a few generations of direct line incest to really start producing retards and deformed people. I've read various things on it over the years [...]

uh huh... certainly a suprise...

 

[chronox42]

The Tutoring timeline probably looks more like this:

• Sensei starts tutoring, and starts tutoring Noriko when she's 6 (it's probably around 2010, Sensei is around 21 to 22)
• Accident happens around 2011 to 2012, Sensei ghosts Niki and takes a break from tutoring.
• It's around 2012, Sensei starts tutoring again, and tutors Maya and Noriko who are around 7 to 8, and Sensei is around 22 to 23.
• Around 2015, Sensei has Noriko and Maya read '1984', when they are around 10.
• Around 2016, Sensei abandons Noriko, with Maya. They are probably around 11 to 12. (Ayane probably shows up around this time thanks to Ami, and breaks down in front of Sensei, over her mother)
• In 2020, Sensei and Maya reunites with Noriko. Noriko is 16, Maya 15, Sensei 31, and Niki 29.

Although, Nodoka may have confirmed, last update, a theory of mine that I've had for a while, which would make the Timeline canonically retroactively artificial. (Basically if someone mentions a reference of time, something writes it in. Makes it "real".)

There's also how Long Maya implied something was secretly cutting up the pieces of the puzzle with scissors, in the 'Second Sun' Happy Event. In other words: messing with the established timeline after the fact.

Excellent points, thanks for the response. So my proposed timeline doesn't work with what we've heard from Noriko about the tutoring years (or the past renders of her and Maya).

It seems like the timeline is mostly coherent from the accident onward? That would mean that the largest apparent inconsistency here is repeated depictions of Noriko being far older than she should be at various points in Akira and Niki's history.

Keeping in mind that my suggestion is an exercise meant to select a single element we can change to make the timeline optimally coherent based on what we know, I think it can be adapted to this reality:

--> Noriko was born around 2001, stopped aging around age 6, and started aging again when Sensei began tutoring her.

This supposition gives her reasonable ages for the events of the tour, the first kiss, and Kyoto. I think we still have to either split Kyoto, or assume that Akira and Niki were having overt sexual interactions for years before deciding to 'get together'. So far I feel the former fits better.

Interesting interpretation of Nodoka's words. I see what you mean by 'retroactively artificial', and I wouldn't find it shocking. On the other hand, what would be the point of the slow drip of timeline revelations if any assertion may be inserted into a twisted timeline?

On that final note about Long Maya: I think that's the best description of what we're actually seeing with events like Kyoto. The pieces have been mixed, warped, and obscured; but eventually a coherent image will emerge.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Unless you have a serious recessive genetic condition in your genealogy, it takes more than a few generations of direct line incest to really start producing retards and deformed people. I've read various things on it over the years and it can be imperceptible for many generations apparently, way more then you'd think, and even when things start to go wrong, they don't just start suddenly producing malformed idiots, it's a slower process than you'd expect. You can get away with a few generations of siblings hooking up and only suffer very minor, if any, genetic degradation.

Not sure how it played out in Asia, but in much of Europe, the lineages of the royalty and noble classes starts to look extremely sus if you look closely.

Turns out when you prioritize keeping the blood blue, you don't have many options that AREN'T incest.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

and even when things start to go wrong

oh things fo sho already start going wrong for them, 100%

 

[fasoaga]

uh huh... certainly a suprise...

It increases the probability of genetic disorders by 9%. So people don't think about it much. Basically this:
-First generation: Nothing happens.
-Second generation: Nothing happens.
-Third generation: "Damn children of the jackson family might be dumb"
-4th gen: "Why our children has a forth leg on top of their heads? Certainly not because we are cousins, because all the other inbreeding families were fine."

 

[barglenarglezous]

It increases the probability of genetic disorders by 9%. So people don't think about it much. Basically this:
-First generation: Nothing happens.
-Second generation: Nothing happens.
-Third generation: "Damn children of the jackson family might be dumb"
-4th gen: "Why our children has a forth leg on top of their heads? Certainly not because we are cousins, because all the other inbreeding families were fine."

It took 16 generations of blue-blood inbreeding to create Charles II of Spain.

 

[YOUDIDIT]

a little info pls. is this safe to remove from game. incase u stop updating in the future and corrupt save file?

Yes, it is safe to remove the mod. I checked - game saves made with the mod are normally opened by the game without the mod and vice versa.
With the same version of the game. When the versions are different, the saves work every other time - this is how Sel's code works.

If you update the game, but don't update the mod (or I stop making it at some point), there are no problems either. The mod will work until the event it knows about, and then it will turn off itself and the standard game will start.

Update 0.44 is done (link to the mod page). I didn't write about it here, because in 0.44 all the events are one chain, and the mod is not needed here.

 

[elricsecret]

Yes, it is safe to remove the mod. I checked - game saves made with the mod are normally opened by the game without the mod and vice versa.
With the same version of the game. When the versions are different, the saves work every other time - this is how Sel's code works.

If you update the game, but don't update the mod (or I stop making it at some point), there are no problems either. The mod will work until the event it knows about, and then it will turn off itself and the standard game will start.

Update 0.44 is done (link to the mod page). I didn't write about it here, because in 0.44 all the events are one chain, and the mod is not needed here.

thank u for the answer and your work

 

[Meepmeepmeep104]

I'm new to this game. For the last 2 versions of this game the event Reset (the first reset)... never triggers ever and ive gone to the shrine 10 times and nothing... is there a way to skip[ past it cause im stuck in a loop. It says wait for weekday... then on weekday nothing happens...

 

[Moonflare]

I'm new to this game. For the last 2 versions of this game the event Reset (the first reset)... never triggers ever and ive gone to the shrine 10 times and nothing... is there a way to skip[ past it cause im stuck in a loop. It says wait for weekday... then on weekday nothing happens...

if you post your save I can check if it won't trigger for me either. Other than that you could trigger the next event, or reset itself through URM, of course you'd have to install it. In that case:

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[Meepmeepmeep104]

if you post your save I can check if it won't trigger for me either. Other than that you could trigger the next event, or reset itself through URM, of course you'd have to install it. In that case:

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That worked very well. Thanks. <3

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: 0.45 Preview

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This one was also labeled 0.44 Preview

 

[uhhhwhat]

I just had a thought about these three different timelines coming in the next update. In Ayane's part we're going to see pre-loop adult Akira for the first time, the one that Yumi called creepy and the one that "tutored" wizard Maya. With how confrontational Ayane's been, how is that going to go?

Which one of the three does everyone think will be the best/wildest/worst?

 

[Pedro4545454]

Spoiler: Box

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[Pedro4545454]

I just had a thought about these three different timelines coming in the next update. In Ayane's part we're going to see pre-loop adult Akira for the first time, the one that Yumi called creepy and the one that "tutored" wizard Maya. With how confrontational Ayane's been, how is that going to go?

???? what? The Akira that we see in Ayane's timeline is the Akira from Halloween in chapter 3, 2 to 3 days before they were teleported to the future for the beach update, that line of yours doesn't make much sense.

Akira and Makoto is in the first Halloween of the game, Maya is in the second and Ayane is in the third, they are separated between the chapters of the story and possibly in different timelines.

 

[uhhhwhat]

???? what? The Akira that we see in Ayane's timeline is the Akira from Halloween in chapter 3, 2 to 3 days before they were teleported to the future for the beach update, that line of yours doesn't make much sense.

Akira and Makoto is in the first Halloween of the game, Maya is in the second and Ayane is in the third, they are separated between the chapters of the story and possibly in different timelines.

I meant an Akira that hasn't been looping, the one we see as a main character

 

[Pedro4545454]

I meant an Akira that hasn't been looping, the one we see as a main character

I understand, but it depends, If this is the original timeline, this Akira from this timeline that Ayane is in is still working with the Reset and he is the same Akira that we controlled and saw in chapter 3, now if it is a line of totally new time with different events many things can happen.

 

[somedoodwhogames]

What if Ami was destined to become The Collector all along?

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[aramaug]

Spoiler: Box

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I really like this idea. They ended up at the school in the first place because a blacked-out Sensei kept saying stuff about a box - the reader is supposed to think one of Maya's boxes, but that's never spelled out. From Nodoka we now know that Sensei is acting on memory when blacked out, so he could be remembering a box he left himself.

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It's possible that Sensei brought the box or something that was in it home with him, since this is how the event ends:

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Unfortunately he was blacking out so he doesn't remember.

It also fits with what Yasu says at the end of Chapter 3. When she thinks that Sensei is going to be reset, she tells him to leave memories behind for his future self to find.

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A previous Sensei could have received the same advice and actually acted on it.

 

[Detective Dc345]

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