You guys all have it wrong. Sana isn't the chapter 4 poster girl; it's Himawari. She's been the poster girl for every chapter, just coincidentally dressed as other characters.
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... It's just Selebus cosplaying as girls, and you know it deep down in your groin ...
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My interpretation of this update is vastly different from what people have posted so far. For me, all signs point to the alternate timelines being fake in some sense.
For one thing, nobody interrupts the RAS when they start talking about time stuff and the world, and the game makes sure to point this out:
Beyond that, I don't know if the individual timelines stand up to scrutiny when you start asking "how did things reach this point?" For example, how did boring football-loving Sensei make it through four resets? Keep in mind, one of the criteria that decides whether Sensei survives in our world is whether he's fucked enough girls (the checkmarks, "you must take something that doesn't belong to you", being saved by having sex with Maya Prime, etc.).
I don't think what happens to New Maya qualifies as an alternate timeline(s) at all. Rather, she's trapped in a sequence of nightmares like the one Maya Prime experienced during the fourth reset, as is made clear by the fake Sensei:
The scene with Ami is probably still part of the nightmare chain, given how the worst/best "of this" is yet to come. In any case, it's not actually occurring in the main timeline, as the narrator tells us:
So while it's possible that this is some version of Ami, it's probably not "our" Ami and it might be something else entirely.
I've just had an absolutely wild thought about what actually might be happening in "Right as Rain", so I'm going to abruptly end this post here while I go check out whether it's possible. Edit: post on this coming tomorrow.
For one thing, nobody interrupts the RAS when they start talking about time stuff and the world, and the game makes sure to point this out:
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I don't think what happens to New Maya qualifies as an alternate timeline(s) at all. Rather, she's trapped in a sequence of nightmares like the one Maya Prime experienced during the fourth reset, as is made clear by the fake Sensei:
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I've just had an absolutely wild thought about what actually might be happening in "Right as Rain", so I'm going to abruptly end this post here while I go check out whether it's possible. Edit: post on this coming tomorrow.
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... guide mode missing ...
... or you have care packages on save but they are missing (suspicion, might not be true at all) ...
... either of those ...
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Like I said, I don't think it's NTR - and trust that you will find no greater NTR expert than I. However, we have to understand that NTR has grown to be a boogeyman for those who are emotionally fragile and intently possessive. A girl smiling at another guy is NTR; a girl ever having a boyfriend at any time in their life is NTR; a girl having sex before meeting the protagonist is NTR; and, indeed, a girl getting raped is NTR. A popular recent genre of NTR is "BSS" -> Boku ga saki ni suki datta no ni -> "but I liked her first", wherein the NTR is a girl who has never had a relationship with the MC is "stolen" by virtue of falling for another guy. Any world in which a girl does not remain untouched by anyone but the protagonist from birth to death is NTR. Any world in which a girl has any positive or sexual feelings for anyone but the protagonist from birth to death is NTR. Their dream of romance is a nubile virgin saving themselves for the ideal man then giving themselves to him (the purityfriend) as an eternal gift.
This psychology, really, comes from a blend of idealism and a gluttonous streak abetted by a glut of choices. First in the abstract world of fiction we can pursue our ideals unbound by earthly considerations, and for many - dating back to of course the Neolithic era - their "ideal" woman is one completely untouched and wholly devoted. In a sense this I do not decry; I cannot criticize fundamentally one who may yearn for a Maya who has never been fucked senseless by Ami (putting aside the conception that at times these events define us and "a Maya who has never been fucked senseless by Ami is no Maya at all"). The problem is more the gluttony, the gourmand's tongue that develops; a large amount of media caters to this unblemished virgin fetish rather intently, and so while under normal circumstances we may be forced to abandon our idealistic wishes to face the reality that the Virgin Mary of our dreams in fact fucked some random farmer in the back of a sheep pen when Joseph wasn't watching, in the modern world it is fully reasonable for one to absorb themselves completely in harem fantasies where much like in Lessons in Love there exist no men in the world except the protagonist and all girls love him unilaterally. This lack of opposition weakens the mind and spirit until anything outside of that is no longer acceptable - where the mere sight of a rival in love sends one frothing with rage, and THIS is precisely where NTR becomes the eternal boogeyman. Someone leaving their walled garden of gigavirgins will see something like the recent scenes in LiL and start raving about NTR because in their world girls are so pure and devoted that they would rush to immolate themselves in a roaring suicidal fire before there was even a chance of someone other than their beloved touching their skin. Being raped is betrayal; cumming to it is heresy. In their minds Maya and Tsuneyo and so on may now be burning in the ninth circle of hell alongside Judas. Even when faced with the divine fruit of knowledge that is LiL they can turn their back because the harem fantasies of their dreams grow from neighboring trees with abundance. Their walled garden is massive. And so their intolerance for suffering grows. It is a sad state of affairs. Thankfully there is still time for Selebus to delete all these recent scenes and ensure each heroine is wholly devoted/loyal to Sensei and also that every surviving man dies in space. Also it just occurs to me it's ironic that the anti-NTR guy didn't express equal rage at the LITERAL NTR of Haruka - this reflects how it's less the general act NTR itself they dislike and more the personal discomfort they feel at their potential pure waifus being despoiled.
Act 4 - Maya - Adulterer.
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Have to catch up with the thread but I quite enjoyed most of this update. For some reason I wasn't really that interested with the first 1/4 or so of it, but it got me back on board in the 2nd half.
The end of the update had me reacting like 1995 Street Fighter animated series M. Bison. If you take a look at the top of my tier list you will know why.
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I mean, HOPE might be talking about Sana. Like, HOPE and other gods wanted Sana to be banged or something. But now it's seems that they don't care about her (why? Maybe it is too late now since Sana is acting like slut now), so HOPE changed his aim towards other girls who can be corrupted (virgin) yet not that perverted.
Or that's Selebus just telling us that he fucked up and give up on making proper Sana chapter and decided to make it Yumi chapter
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Well, with a more clean mind i retake where i left and im finding it very interesting, top tier update.
But this scene confuses me a bit
Edit: Oh boy, still getting through and then this:
But this scene confuses me a bit
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Edit: Oh boy, still getting through and then this:
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I think it is fake Ayane, based on Ayane from our timeline. Like, since everyone but Makoto, Ami and Maya exploded in the end of this scene, it is likely some fake alternative version of our main timeline.
But gosh... I feel brain damage from thinking too much about it.
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Maybe Hope is referring to Yumi in this? She is known by another name (a name that has not been mentioned or brought up or mentioned ever again) Maybe she has a Sensei-esque brain blockage and once she hears that name again she'll regain some memories.
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This is a rather underwhelming explanation of what happened lol
tbh I didn't even register that the scene could be considered as ntr because, crazy as it will sound, but listen to me, I think we're over ntr at the moment. Let's first address that specific scene, I say this for two reasons:
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Exactly, when the narrator said "can this be considered NTR, blah blah", I was like, NTR? Wut. Didn't even notice anything lol.
EDIT: Regarding the direction he's taking, what's happening there I think, is that Selebus wants to hurt the overly-sensitive-to-anything-anywhere-near-NTR people that read LiL. That's the impression I get at least. I don't know if that's accurate or not, or even a good move. Could certainly harm his income, but I think at this point it won't.
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Yeah, I mean, I personally didn't consider that scene to be NTR either. To me, it was just another one of the game's patented fucked up sex scenes, which don't bother me, but I also don't think add anything to the game.
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With that said, I can totally see how other people would consider it NTR. I don't think people bothered by the scene are "overly-sensitive-to-anything-anywhere-near-NTR people." Some people view girl-on-girl the same as guy-on-girl and I do not think that's inherently wrong. If anything, it's probably less sexist. And I can see how getting NTRed after years of investing into a game and characters could make people very upset. And that scene clearly turned some people off the game.
I think it's a very weird choice for Selebus to be adding more things that border on NTR to this game, because if he keeps edging the line, he will just push more and more people away. Maybe he's trying to hurt a specific group of people who play the game. But...why???? His game has not grown in years. His Subscribstar's back down to 9.8k. He lost subscribers after this update. And he's been adding custom non-cannon renders to the game and setting goals to try to get more money recently, so it clearly matters to him. It just feels like he's shooting himself in the foot. I want to see this game finished eventually, and at the rate he's going I'm worried at the very least we might eventually get much longer update times if he needs to get a real job to support himself.
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