I like that Otoha is a fairly shitty person without being clownishly evil the way some other asshole characters are
feel like im definitely in the small percent of players that actually like otoha. like yeah it was shitty how she did rin but lets not act like some of the other characters aren't equally as bad. i mean sensei is lying to basically everyone. yumi bullied someone into genuinely hating themself. Rin led sensei on after the Chika rejection before deciding to throw him aside for Otoha. Molly forced a kiss on Rin, the list goes on and on but everyone has this huge hate boner for Otoha. the difference between otoha and the other characters is at least she is self aware shes a bad person but doesn't hide it anymore
I mean. I like her.
She's, as I said, frustrating, which a lot of people might dislike. But her shitiness is normal teen shitiness, and there's nothing about it she probably wouldn't outgrow by age 20.
She's, as I said, frustrating, which a lot of people might dislike. But her shitiness is normal teen shitiness, and there's nothing about it she probably wouldn't outgrow by age 20.
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Fair.
I don't hate her--though she definitely didn't do right by our best bud Rin. She's an example of what my kids call "pretty privilege." She's cute and moderately talented and so things have generally come her way. I think the whole Niki thing is going to continue to kick her in the teeth, and I don't think that's a bad thing for her as a person. 'Cause she's not much of a person at this point.
One thing that occurs to me: she's one of the few characters who isn't struggling with some major trauma or mental challenge--that we're aware of. I mean, she might be sociopathic, but I don't think so. I think she's just... not very nice.
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Sensei is a piece of shit though, its his whole character and potentially arc.
Futaba was self conscience anyway although what Yumi was doing was still wrong, at least she's apologised.
What Molly did had me cringing behind the screen it was bad.
Otoha only doesn't hide how shitty she is with Akira because she KNOWS he's shitty too. She hides it from everyone else.
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Molly did nothing wrong, Rin just has terrible taste! Also the fact Otoha isn't that bad of a person makes her even more boring to me, I don't even hate her, I nothing her.
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But lets be honest. Otoha is one of these characters you would see irl.
That might be the reason people hate her this much. Sure there are other characters who had done worse but Otaha acts like that bitch from your highschool years. People don't judge as a hentai/horror game character, but a real life person who they have encountered with.
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All this debate over liking her, hating her, being indifferent to her... ya'll wanna see that girl get folded into a pretzel and stuffed with cream in both ends until she looks 9 months pregnant so i don't really see the point in going over it with a fine-tooth comb, yeah yeah, shitty person, typical teenager, now let's get to the crossed-eyed, tongue-out mindbreak already...
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Bingoogus the voice of reason as always.
Praise be.
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Just to also give my two cents to the Otoha discussion (not that anyone asked):
I think it's a culmination of all the arguments brought forth so far.
Otoha is neither a psychopath, nor an angel. She isn't fully bad, but she certainly isn't good either, neither dark nor light. Which ultimately lands her pretty much in the middle at grey. Which is probably the blandest color there is.
There is a lot of arguments for hating Otoha, she did a lot of shady and unnecessarily selfish stuff - definitely. I will respect anyone's opinion for disliking her solely based on her past actions.
However, I also support the argument that her misdemeanors at least also gave her somewhat of a character. After all, she is actually the most realistic teenager out of all the girls so far.
Think about it, we have girls that (think they) talk to gods, we have heiresses of multibillion companies, we have severely abused and traumatized girls, girls that have severe depression or extreme issues with self confidence, girls that have lived millions of years and a girl that wants to be violently fucked ber her uncle who actually is her Dad.
Out of all of these individuals, I personally think, Otoha is the most "normal" one, as in, she acts the most like someone you and me would probably know in real life, at least from back in high school times.
That can of course be interpreted as being very forgettable and boring, but I see it as being a nice representation of normalcy, of an average girl, doing things that average girls do.
She is relatively calm and collected compared to most girls, she has typical hobbies that fit her age, she is facing issues that are common in her stage in life and she has flaws. Yes, she is lying, she has been manipulative, she has done selfish things and she seems constantly indecisive and unsure what to do. But almost all teenagers do exactly that.
But she did none of those things to a comically evil level, unlike someone like Nodoka or Ami. Some people even brought up that other characters did similarly heinous deeds, yet are not treated as harshly as Otoha is.
And I think it comes down to her being "too normal" to cover for her shortcomings, as she rarely does anything noteworthy enough to distract from those actions. She ultimately just wants to be left alone and do her thing.
At the end of the day, I am convinced that most of us here, if thrown into the universe of LiL, would turn out to be an 'Otoha'. Meaning, we would most likely not have any extremely outer-worldly or traumatic backstory, no crazily unusual character traits, just a pretty average person with maybe a bit of perverted tendencies here and there, but nothing too dramatic.
Thinking of it that way, I feel like I can relate to Otoha probably the most out of all the girls in this game. So what if you are relatively boring in comparison? It does not make you a bad person or unworthy of attention.
Also her butt is nice.
I think it's a culmination of all the arguments brought forth so far.
Otoha is neither a psychopath, nor an angel. She isn't fully bad, but she certainly isn't good either, neither dark nor light. Which ultimately lands her pretty much in the middle at grey. Which is probably the blandest color there is.
There is a lot of arguments for hating Otoha, she did a lot of shady and unnecessarily selfish stuff - definitely. I will respect anyone's opinion for disliking her solely based on her past actions.
However, I also support the argument that her misdemeanors at least also gave her somewhat of a character. After all, she is actually the most realistic teenager out of all the girls so far.
Think about it, we have girls that (think they) talk to gods, we have heiresses of multibillion companies, we have severely abused and traumatized girls, girls that have severe depression or extreme issues with self confidence, girls that have lived millions of years and a girl that wants to be violently fucked ber her uncle who actually is her Dad.
Out of all of these individuals, I personally think, Otoha is the most "normal" one, as in, she acts the most like someone you and me would probably know in real life, at least from back in high school times.
That can of course be interpreted as being very forgettable and boring, but I see it as being a nice representation of normalcy, of an average girl, doing things that average girls do.
She is relatively calm and collected compared to most girls, she has typical hobbies that fit her age, she is facing issues that are common in her stage in life and she has flaws. Yes, she is lying, she has been manipulative, she has done selfish things and she seems constantly indecisive and unsure what to do. But almost all teenagers do exactly that.
But she did none of those things to a comically evil level, unlike someone like Nodoka or Ami. Some people even brought up that other characters did similarly heinous deeds, yet are not treated as harshly as Otoha is.
And I think it comes down to her being "too normal" to cover for her shortcomings, as she rarely does anything noteworthy enough to distract from those actions. She ultimately just wants to be left alone and do her thing.
At the end of the day, I am convinced that most of us here, if thrown into the universe of LiL, would turn out to be an 'Otoha'. Meaning, we would most likely not have any extremely outer-worldly or traumatic backstory, no crazily unusual character traits, just a pretty average person with maybe a bit of perverted tendencies here and there, but nothing too dramatic.
Thinking of it that way, I feel like I can relate to Otoha probably the most out of all the girls in this game. So what if you are relatively boring in comparison? It does not make you a bad person or unworthy of attention.
Also her butt is nice.
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Only when she gets like this
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Good gravy, this does unhealthy things for me.
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A girl should be forgiven if:
1. She is cute / hot
2. Cock punishment
We should all be understanding and give Otoha a chance to redeem herself
1. She is cute / hot
2. Cock punishment
We should all be understanding and give Otoha a chance to redeem herself
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Otoha is fucking hot. and no, this is not Rin talking despite the pfp
- Sep 29, 2019
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When it comes to "normal" or "common" girls, I'd probably consider Futaba and Kirin the most realistic girls on average.
Chika and Otoha would be two extremes, in a way:
Otoha also struggles to take care of herself without her parents around, unsure of how to feed herself, while Chika has basically became a parent and makes sure to feed her little sister and herself, and Yumi when she can.
Otoha even seems to prefer younger boys while Chika prefers older men, and they both like girls, just probably not as much as they like specific males.
They're somewhat opposites, which may have been the point. In conclusion:
Chika and Otoha would be two extremes, in a way:
- Chika:
- Who desperately wants security and love and has to work her ass off because her parents are gone, and she has a kid and friend (Yumi) to take care of.
- Otoha:
- Who wants more than just security and love and doesn't have to do anything because her parents and friend (Nodoka) actually care about her future, and have made sure to get her whatever she wants or might need.
Otoha also struggles to take care of herself without her parents around, unsure of how to feed herself, while Chika has basically became a parent and makes sure to feed her little sister and herself, and Yumi when she can.
Otoha even seems to prefer younger boys while Chika prefers older men, and they both like girls, just probably not as much as they like specific males.
They're somewhat opposites, which may have been the point. In conclusion:
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Ya know, I just thought, if gods are tied to the moons and iirc paranormal shit (or at least extra paranormal) happens a shitton/usually (not exclusively) at night, when there is a moon, then the fuck will happen if a solar eclipse happens?
- Jan 1, 2024
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Man this just made me realize that I don't think I've ever eaten a single pretzel my entire life (and it's completely possible where I live) the images makes them seem like a delightful thing to eat except one image
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