Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[DeanNoriko]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

 

[shmurfer]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

First one has lore implications. Second one was just a music choice during a recap at the start / end of an update. I haven't seen whether this update rewards you for having the ayane lust or punishes you. It looks like she takes the scarf from Ayane which could mean she's stopping you from connecting to Maya but I'll have to see whether that's me reading the images wrong and the script actually portrays it as a good thing.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

I'd say it's relevant to the lore and it's canon, but it will not happen onscreen if you don't have enough Ayane affection points. And to prevent any future flag that requires 4-digit Ayane affection points, this is how much my Sensei loves Ayane now:

 

[Zarcord the venezuelan]

shmurfer, Ever since I betrayed Rin thinking there were no consequences for my actions in this game, I began compulsively saving so I would always have a
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I spent 3 hours going almost from the beginning so I wouldn't betray her, and I don't regret it.
Love Rin.

 

[Budoop]

Ever since I betrayed Rin thinking there were no consequences for my actions in this game, I began compulsively saving so I would always have a
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I spent 3 hours going almost from the beginning so I wouldn't betray her, and I don't regret it.
Love Rin.

3 Hours?
Bro if I got a penny for every hour I've lost on restarts I'd be rich.

 

[shmurfer]

shmurfer, Ever since I betrayed Rin thinking there were no consequences for my actions in this game, I began compulsively saving so I would always have a
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backup to regret my decision.
















I spent 3 hours going almost from the beginning so I wouldn't betray her, and I don't regret it.
Love Rin.

I guess my willingness to look in the guide mod / the scripts is making me callous (though I manually ground out several thousands of Ayane Love before I started playing so I'm not leaving it to chance).
I make random saves but I'm willing to roll back turn on text skip to fix obvious issues. But I've probably already done this if there's a choice, and made a save before the event with the choice if I thought the choice was interesting.

My page 9 looks like this instead

Spoiler: Please rise for the national anthem

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[lolzmandude]

NOT AGAIN NOOO NOT SO SOON. GOD DAMN IT ALL.

 

[Yggdrasil_Frahma]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

It may be the kind of thing that's important to be there even if nobody finds it, so a sort of easter egg, but not any less important than any other scene of the game. Something that, logically or emotionally given base constraints, must be there for everything else to make sense or feel right. If we think about it, these scenes arise from some kind of demonstration of devotion for Ayane - someone has in fact grinded more than 10,000 Ayane affection out of genuine love for her. It may be that authorman feels it's important to reward or otherwise have consequences for such a display of devotion even if theoretically nobody were to find it, and in this sense, those using tools are violating this artistic intention as well. However, that too brings forth its own metaphor, like 'cheating' also being something that stomps on 'devotion.'

 

[Xiondingens]

Nah, it's the Alexis event, but i can't be assed to explain it for the hundredth time, dude can do a thread search for 'Alexis'.

Oh, that overcomplicated BS with something about the mall? Yeah, i decided quite a while ago i dont give a shit. In case i really need it as a trigger i will just save edit. Cant be bothered about the mall at all.

 

[givemeabeer]

Ok, now I sympathize with you guys... those who play with the music on.

I respect you.

Truly.

I just un-mute the music seven seconds and I get murdering thought.

 

[matt_riochka]

It looks like she takes the scarf from Ayane which could mean she's stopping you from connecting to Maya but I'll have to see whether that's me reading the images wrong and the script actually portrays it as a good thing.

I don't think that's the case, Ayane doesn't remember anything from the reset so she's very unlikely to actually do anything with it
with Maya suggesting a shopping "date", and remembering that Himawari was the one selling the scarf to Akira, I think it's much more likely she's trying to reforce the event we saw in chapter 1

 

[shmurfer]

Oh, that overcomplicated BS with something about the mall? Yeah, i decided quite a while ago i dont give a shit. In case i really need it as a trigger i will just save edit. Cant be bothered about the mall at all.

It's less complicated than people make it out to be. You need to witness a line of dialogue in 0.45 which sets a persistent flag outside of your saves, and then you need to experience the great paredolia mall in actual gameplay, not a replay. Then you find a specific room which has an extra choice, and then you can do the happy event which gives you a persistent flag that says you've seen the event outside of individual saves (And unlocks an alexis profile outfit)

Ok, now I sympathize with you guys... those who play with the music on.

I respect you.

Truly.

I just un-mute the music seven seconds and I get murdering thought.

I don't know how you can even play the game without the music, it's a huge part of it. Even if sometimes Sel turns into dick audio wise, but he's also a dick text wise and event wise sometimes. the gain is better than the loss imo.

I don't think that's the case, Ayane doesn't remember anything from the reset so she's very unlikely to actually do anything with it
with Maya suggesting a shopping "date", and remembering that Himawari was the one selling the scarf to Akira, I think it's much more likely she's trying to reforce the event we saw in chapter 1

Remember I haven't gotten to that part of the update yet. All I saw from the images was Ayane looking sadly at the scarf, then himawari points at it and takes it away. Maybe it's touching once I see the dialogue

 

[givemeabeer]

I don't know how you can even play the game without the music, it's a huge part of it. Even if sometimes Sel turns into dick audio wise, but he's also a dick text wise and event wise sometimes. the gain is better than the loss imo.

Well, listening to some cheapmunck song during all the Christmas event... thanks, but no thanks.

It's like classical music in elevator... or the music when you're put on hold. It make knives enticing.

So, yeah, I respect you all for keeping your sanity with this «torture».

 

[NearBlueX]

Hey anyone have a link for v0.44 to v0. 45 update only i forgot to download it because bussy IRL and didn't notice its already v0.46 thanls if anyone can provide it

 

[fdsasdf_p]

I don't think that's the case, Ayane doesn't remember anything from the reset so she's very unlikely to actually do anything with it
with Maya suggesting a shopping "date", and remembering that Himawari was the one selling the scarf to Akira, I think it's much more likely she's trying to reforce the event we saw in chapter 1

On top of that, Nu Maya didn't comment on the scarf at all when Ayane still wore it, despite Alt Maya suggesting that giving it to Nu Maya might shock her back to reality. This implies that the current relevance of this scarf to Maya is perhaps gone with her old memories (or via some other unknown mechanisms), and Himawari keeps the scarf for now to perhaps wait for the most impactful time to deliver the scarf (just like what she did before, as you suggested) since now that Ayane not only can't remember Alt Maya told her that, but she also can't remember the fact that Sensei once bought Maya Prime the scarf in the main timeline.

Spoiler: scarf

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[SlidingSubject]

Seems like Sel did TWO oopsie woopsie this update.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's three.

Spoiler: 0.46

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[somepersonoutofnowhere]

Update is a banger, that's all I have to say.

I can confirm the 2 users here werent even the fastest There was one faster and they even got us the full game thankfully.

That is crazy man, this might be their setup at that point.

Spoiler: flashbang warning

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Hey anyone have a link for v0.44 to v0. 45 update only i forgot to download it because bussy IRL and didn't notice its already v0.46 thanls if anyone can provide it

The post below me replied to two file leaks, mega and gofile.

Is that a new record?

 

[Bob69]

Hey anyone have a link for v0.44 to v0. 45 update only i forgot to download it because bussy IRL and didn't notice its already v0.46 thanls if anyone can provide it

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[VoidExile]

No obvious images in the patch look like happy event levels of fucked up Bingo is probably right.


I have no idea how you lot handle this, unless you're saving in between every event. I like the game but not THAT much.


I've had a bad night so I'm not putting in the normal effort I'd normally do. When Sel started making the game, he posted it here where it got a TON of exposure (and people pledging) to the point it's probably still the largest source of income the game has to this date. It's never gone viral elsewhere (to the point that a reaction image from the game went 300k retweets viral on twitter a month ago and we were wondering if something interesting would actually happen due to it)

During these days he was an active poster and was generally pleasant and helpful, like Moonflare today would be. But once he started making better than 'real job' money from it he started getting more hostile about content leaking here. After he made care packages and they started leaking here he tried getting the game removed from the site by highlighting how Chika was 16 years old, and trying to get the game banned from the site using site rules, inciting hate raids from the discord of his dicksuckers to mass report the game for it. I think this is a link to this thread when this was happening. There's a statement by Sel where he defends why he spent weeks attacking the site instead of making the game and a lot of long posts pointing out the hypocrisy

iirc this merely got his f95zone account banned. Then at some point he outsourced some save deleting DRM which would wipe every LiL save from your computer if it detected a care package was installed. The DRM being hidden in gui.rpy and a random image from the dorms (imagine savedeleter.exe renamed into a jpg but it also displayed a usable image.) Apparently that one got the game shadowbanned from the site (Which is why it doesn't appear on the update queue. The only new people who show up in this thread basically lurked long enough to be recommended the game from other people, or in my case very specific tags and arranging by game score). This probably stopped any new income coming in from f95zone's audience so good job mr dev I hope you're happy.

I wondered what that drm thing was. Is it still being uploaded on the site and should you be using the disable drm patch? And yeah, I found that Chika thing. Think that's part of the reason why I said he was talking badly about the mods. Honestly this whole thing just sounds like massive greed alert. I mean that's obvious, he got most of the success from here after all. Not sure what else to say about the situation but it is what it is.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

I don't fucking know.

I have been worried about this all the time, I want to make sure there is always a true save to fall back to, but I have no idea if Ayane's easter egg flags are a trap or meant to be achieved. I don't know if Selebus is trying to create pre-update flags that can detect if you checked a box before implementing something new and punish you for using DRM or tinkering with the game's files directly. This would in theory, have been Sensei-Quest's job, but I find it much easier to fix this than having seen an easter egg.