Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.46.0] [Selebus]

[jamyong]

This is one of the few times people theorizing in here actually catches my eye. Wonderful analysis of a character I really like, despite her being intentionally made to be hated.

I guess she is intentionally made to be hated, but given that Sensei is such an almost completely irredeemable piece of shit, her attitude towards him is kinda endearing in a way. And his actions towards her should make one very sympathetic towards her, even despite her bullying of Futaba. I also don't like Futaba though, so that probably helps me somewhat overlook her being such a bitch

 

[RDFozz]

Just started playing this. The music (I've just woken up from my first night's sleep, so I've only heard one tune thus far) is ... irritating.

Ia it supposed to sound like two different sound tracks are playing at the same time? Right now, I think maybe the wordless one I was hearing underneath the one with the lyrics has stopped, and that's wy it's become more tolerable. When the lyrics track reach its end a fewminutes ago, things were silent until that track started up again, while that wasn't the case before.

 

[AgumenticR]

Just started playing this. The music (I've just woken up from my first night's sleep, so I've only heard one tune thus far) is ... irritating.

Ia it supposed to sound like two different sound tracks are playing at the same time? Right now, I think maybe the wordless one I was hearing underneath the one with the lyrics has stopped, and that's wy it's become more tolerable. When the lyrics track reach its end a fewminutes ago, things were silent until that track started up again, while that wasn't the case before.

Not usually, no. You sure you don't have the game open twice or something?

 

[Bingoogus]

Just started playing this. The music (I've just woken up from my first night's sleep, so I've only heard one tune thus far) is ... irritating.

Ia it supposed to sound like two different sound tracks are playing at the same time? Right now, I think maybe the wordless one I was hearing underneath the one with the lyrics has stopped, and that's wy it's become more tolerable. When the lyrics track reach its end a fewminutes ago, things were silent until that track started up again, while that wasn't the case before.

Just because this happened to me once but are you sure you don't have two instances of the game running?

Edit: beaten to the punch but i just ran through the part you mentioned and experienced no issues, each track started and stopped before another.

 

[RDFozz]

Thanks for the responses. I suppose it's possible I had two copies open - in fact, that's probably what was going on. Naturally, when I got back into the game, I moved onto a new track, and everything's seemed fine since.

I did wonder why the game was still open when I thought I'd quit before coming here to ask the question, and the menu music continues throughout that first day, so that tracks with your theory.

Thanks!

 

[fgh24]

only thing i hate is that you get no right answer for the birthday question cause you could maybe guess someone's birthday randomly

 

[Axismundi]

So in Life of Prizes, I was wondering where you were supposed to get the answers for the book with infinite pages and how you get the number of bowls of rice you have to eat. I'm not asking for the answers; I already have them written down. I'm just curious as to where the answers are in game.

 

[AgumenticR]

So in Life of Prizes, I was wondering where you were supposed to get the answers for the book with infinite pages and how you get the number of bowls of rice you have to eat. I'm not asking for the answers; I already have them written down. I'm just curious as to where the answers are in game.

As it happens, the exact same place - at the end of The Light of Last Summer, when Sensei is back in that room with angels, in the background you can see the script on the wall: View attachment returntosummer46.webp . The page number is the answer to the book of the infinite pages and Angel 2 in the script saying to eat more rice is a hint towards what you need to do to get the final piece of the key. 23 is just an important number that keeps appearing in several places for currently uncertain reasons - for example, Sensei was 23 years old when the accident that killed Ami's parents happened.

 

[jamyong]

Reading through Bluejay again I really am struck by how terrible Makoto is. I'm not entirely sure if she planned it from the start of the night, but bringing someone along with you

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is one of the most bewilderingly selfish things I can imagine, even stacked up to all the awful things Sensei does. The first time I played through this event it was shocking and I felt bad for her, but this time around I just find it frustrating.. I think

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is a completely acceptable reaction to life, but to go that route in a way that will make the people you care about bear witness to it is unforgivable.

 

[Boomboxthegreat]

I'm not entirely sure if she planned it from the start of the night

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[worthlesspeon]

As it happens, the exact same place - at the end of The Light of Last Summer, when Sensei is back in that room with angels, in the background you can see the script on the wall: View attachment 2035865 . The page number is the answer to the book of the infinite pages and Angel 2 in the script saying to eat more rice is a hint towards what you need to do to get the final piece of the key. 23 is just an important number that keeps appearing in several places for currently uncertain reasons - for example, Sensei was 23 years old when the accident that killed Ami's parents happened.

God I forgot how ridiculous this game can be for the fucking reset events. I swear to progress naturally you have to take more notes than I took in medical school. Does anyone actually find this kind of thing enjoyable?

 

[Boomboxthegreat]

Does anyone actually find this kind of thing enjoyable?

No, not the ones that are ridiculous, unless you're a masochist, but a lot of them are easy to know or infer if you read through everything and pay attention, and the rest require rocket science for some fucking reason.

 

[barglenarglezous]

God I forgot how ridiculous this game can be for the fucking reset events. I swear to progress naturally you have to take more notes than I took in medical school. Does anyone actually find this kind of thing enjoyable?

I just make copious use of the Replay interface.

The third reset event, I honestly did enjoy. It was compact and all the answers were in obvious places.

The most recent one, not so much. Everything was buried in word salad and deliberately designed to be as aggravating as possible. And future resets are going to be worse, because he hates it when people give away answers.

 

[worthlesspeon]

And future resets are going to be worse, because he hates it when people give away answers.

Well, as long as the scripts remain accessible, he's not really going to be able to stop that. And even if he hashes the answers or something, at that point someone can just make a mod to bypass the puzzles.

And really, eventually if it becomes impossible to progress, it'll effect his bottom line, at which point there'll be some changes. Then again, the man isn't exactly forward thinking. He refuses to split up the game into chapters, volumes, or whatever. But also says that this game still has probably a decade of development left. At some point the file sizes are going to be too large to be practical.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Well, as long as the scripts remain accessible, he's not really going to be able to stop that. And even if he hashes the answers or something, at that point someone can just make a mod to bypass the puzzles.

And really, eventually if it becomes impossible to progress, it'll effect his bottom line, at which point there'll be some changes. Then again, the man isn't exactly forward thinking. He refuses to split up the game into chapters, volumes, or whatever. But also says that this game still has probably a decade of development left. At some point the file sizes are going to be too large to be practical.

Most of the people backing the game -- or at least the ones on the Discord -- have bought into the mindset, so the impact on his bottom line would be negligible.

 

[van321]

Finally finished the game up to present. Once you get past the cringe edgelord nihilism, the characters are absolutely wonderful.

S Tier: Maya, Rin, Yumi
A Tier: Ayane, Kirin, Noriko, Sana
B Tier: Ami, Chika, Io, Makoto, Miku
C Tier: Futuba, Molly, Nodoka, Touka, Tsuneyo, Uta
D Tier: Otoha, Yasu

 

[worthlesspeon]

Most of the people backing the game -- or at least the ones on the Discord -- have bought into the mindset, so the impact on his bottom line would be negligible.

I doubt the active discord users are representative of the backers as a whole. Remember, he censors and bans people who don't agree with the mindset. So of course the perception is near 100% of the people there buy into the cult.

Even now, his subscribestar is a few thousand away from the peak patreon numbers. And I don't think we know the dollar amount the subscribestar was earning prior to the patreon crackdown, so the reality is even less.

 

[Deleted member 3482284]

Finally finished the game up to present. Once you get past the cringe edgelord nihilism, the characters are absolutely wonderful.

S Tier: Maya, Rin, Yumi
A Tier: Ayane, Kirin, Noriko, Sana
B Tier: Ami, Chika, Io, Makoto, Miku
C Tier: Futuba, Molly, Nodoka, Touka, Tsuneyo, Uta
D Tier: Otoha, Yasu

I agree with most of these especially S tier but but I think Otoha is underrated. She's great

 

[jamyong]

I just read through the Baby Finches for the first time (missed it on the 1st playthrough) and I was curious what theories there are in regards to what Sensei was talking about with Maya. Does anyone have any idea what the redacted words might be? Also, how likely is it that the original Sensei actually jumped off the roof with Maya right there begging him to stop?

 

[van321]

I agree with most of these especially S tier but but I think Otoha is underrated. She's great

I do think Otoha has a lot of potential to be more interesting. For example, Chapter 1 Maya I would have been ranked in probably C or D tier, but she has become one of my favorites as she grapples with her own existential crisis. But right now, Otoha is just "the straight-laced woman" and plays second fiddle to Rin's development or Niki's development. I would like to see more Otoha-focused content. Likewise Yasu seems more like a plot device than a love interest (much like early Maya). Both characters I expect to improve with time.

I just read through the Baby Finches for the first time (missed it on the 1st playthrough) and I was curious what theories there are in regards to what Sensei was talking about with Maya. Does anyone have any idea what the redacted words might be? Also, how likely is it that the original Sensei actually jumped off the roof with Maya right there begging him to stop?

Keeping in mind that it's a happy scene (and that it goes off the rails pretty quickly), I interpreted Sensei went to talk to Maya to let her know someone may have found out about them. Kind of like Ayane being extremely cryptic about her pregnancy, I interpreted Maya talking about finch behavior and living fetuses in a dead womb as an uncomfortable conversation about her being pregnant. Since Sensei knows now everyone will find out, he jumps off the roof.

I suspect the reason Maya is so insistent that pregnancy is the key to entering the time loop is that she believes SHE got into the time loop that way.