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First off: I really like these renders. I can almost envision it as a 'Battle of Kumon-mi type situation', where Yumi makes open threats but Nodoka's just messing around. :LOL:

Secondly: you asked about lighting and shadows, sooo... mini tutorial time.

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With all that information in mind, lets compare the final renders, both with and without added lighting:

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Keep practicing, man! It's a really fun and addicting hobby once you get used to it.
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hcguy

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Sel is a pretentious dickhead answers all of these I have questions and that attitude lead to him both banned and getting his game promotion banned from here. (e.g How dare you peasants skip my happy events, I'm going to hide required information to complete the reset inside of them)
Sorry - why is he a dickhead for putting reset info in a happy event (as opposed to any other kind of event)?
 
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Sorry - why is he a dickhead for putting reset info in a happy event (as opposed to any other kind of event)?
It’s a long story that’s been talked about out at length. I recommend using the search function on this site to look through the numerous previous discussions about this. Needless to say, it isn’t about the reset events, it’s about stuff outside the game (I.e. IRL stuff). Also, welcome!
 

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It’s a long story that’s been talked about out at length. I recommend using the search function on this site to look through the numerous previous discussions about this. Needless to say, it isn’t about the reset events, it’s about stuff outside the game (I.e. IRL stuff). Also, welcome!
No, I know the story and I've seen everyone's hate boners for Selebus. My question is why does putting the reset info in a happy scene specifically make him a dick, which is what the poster I was replying to said ("How dare you peasants skip my happy events, I'm going to hide required information to complete the reset inside of them ") There is reset information in lots of events - why is it worse for it to be in the happy scenes?

FWIW, I have no problem with Selebus telling the story the way he wants to, reset events and all, and if I did I would simply not play the game. It's his story. I don't know him personally or care about whether he is an asshole or not, I like the game and so I support him on SS because I think people deserve to get paid for their work.
 
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No, I know the story and I've seen everyone's hate boners for Selebus. My question is why does putting the reset info in a happy scene specifically make him a dick, which is what the poster I was replying to said ("How dare you peasants skip my happy events, I'm going to hide required information to complete the reset inside of them ") There is reset information in lots of events - why is it worse for it to be in the happy scenes?

FWIW, I have no problem with Selebus telling the story the way he wants to, reset events and all, and if I did I would simply not play the game. It's his story.
It's not the fact that he put info in a happy event the problem, but the fact that he «brick» your save IF you miss this event and pass the reset.
 
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No, I know the story and I've seen everyone's hate boners for Selebus. My question is why does putting the reset info in a happy scene specifically make him a dick, which is what the poster I was replying to said ("How dare you peasants skip my happy events, I'm going to hide required information to complete the reset inside of them ") There is reset information in lots of events - why is it worse for it to be in the happy scenes?

FWIW, I have no problem with Selebus telling the story the way he wants to, reset events and all, and if I did I would simply not play the game. It's his story. I don't know him personally or care about whether he is an asshole or not, I like the game and so I support him on SS because I think people deserve to get paid for their work.
Oh boy, dipping my toes dangerously into negative subjects here... I'll try to be neutral and polite!

It's important to understand that most people engage with fiction in something of a self-centered way; the fiction exists for them (or their conception of what would be ideal), rather than for its own sake. It's intuitive for many many many people that they are more important than the book in their hand or the game they're playing, so any personal problem they have is a problem with the fiction. We see in video game discourse, for example, a lot of controversy over 'accessibility,' with many people being very insistent that every game needs a lot of accessibility options so that as many people as possible can engage with it. Someone may play a sound-centric game with no deaf accessibility options and feel this is a problem with the game, even though it's hardly a categorical imperative that any given fiction needs to accommodate any issues a user may have.

With this established, let's take a closer look at the history of the happy scene. As the story goes, people were skipping happy scenes due to feeling scared or uncomfortable during them. I think while reading through F95's old posts I also encountered masturbators (derogatory) skipping them since ttey were playing with their dicks in hand (why they announced this I do not know). The power of ren'py allows them to control the fiction and shape it to their preferences. Selebus does not want users doing this, however. So to remove 'agency' from the player, and to maximize his intended vision for the fiction, he put puzzle answers in happy scenes to specifically prevent those who skipped them from progressing.

On the one hand, it is intuitive to you that people should be fully engaging with the media they consume - to read every scene put before them. On the other hand, to others its intuitive that their agency being deprived is an objective flaw, and only an asshole would go out of their way to spite them in that way. That would be the key. It's not that Selebus has generically put content in happy scenes. It's that he did so specifically to impact the audience - specifically to spite those playing in ways he does not approve. If there is a cardinal sin a creator can commit in the eyes of the audience, it is invariably treating them with spite. It is a VERY rare individual who puts fiction above themselves - a very rare individual who engages fiction for anyone's sake but their own.

In a sense, this is why we sometimes see cope about how Selebus is producing bad puzzle content 'while trying to make something good' or 'for greed' - there is an almost obsessive compulsion to apply Hanlon's razor and attribute these matters to incompetence rather than malice, because an incompetent or greedy developer is cute and beneath the reader, while a malicious developer is simply an enemy. It's harder to resolve the internal cognitive dissonance for why a person you feel internal distaste for is capable of producing you love. As for how some people spend hundreds upon hundreds of posts casually blasting Selebus with cruel hate while loving the bulk of his art so much, and appreciating the fragility of the characters within - I don't know! People are mean. A perceived slight is all it takes for someone to become less than human in their eyes. Uh oh? Is that not neutral or polite? Ohononono I'm sorry my evil innards are surging up my lungs in the form of my own hateful words :(

Anyway, that's my take. Beware ye author that inconveniences the reader.
 

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Sorry for asking, but does anyone know the scene name in URM for "You are a very bad boy" the scene that happens right after Molly/Sensei bathroom happens? Tsubasa scene I'm pretty sure since that one is also red, but I can't find it in URM.
 
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