Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.47.0] [Selebus]

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BlackDays said:
It's kinda sad how the "Arts" in Electronic Arts once stood for something, compared to nowadays locust practises.
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Don't get me started on that, seeing that the highest-selling games in 2024 were mostly FPS and sports games has me dead already.

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It's kinda sad how the "Arts" in Electronic Arts once stood for something, compared to nowadays locust practises.
And yeah, Peter Molyneux was a game developer genius in his prime, just to fall and inable to adabt to the future of games (Godus). Was sad to see him fall like that.
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Yea.... Unfortunately, that's the nature of a consistently evolving harsh industry that continues even to this day, it tends to leave people behind like that, kinda reminds me how Shenmue 3 was completely outdated even though it released in 2019. Makes me wonder how many companies and people in the late 90s in this industry were left behind like that.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
Lionhead also released some absolute bangers.
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The Black and White games.
Don't know if they had more.
The "Black and White" games were interesting for their time (couldn't beat the last map in B&W2).

Peter Molyneux created the "God Game" genre with "Populous" as far as i know.
He tried to stick to that with his "22 Cans" studios (after Lionhead), but failed badly.
To much catering to some imagined "Mobile Generation" audience. For the younglings it wasn't interesting enough and for the "Old Sports" like me, it was too casual.
 
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thing is getting kinda tired honestly. It feels like a cheap way to create drama or, if we assume that it's actually just him acting on his subconscious impulses, that he's just a bad person and makes me less invested in the story. At least with
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it was really stupid but it was just that, stupid.
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on the other hand, there's just no justification for.
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But that's the thing. He's a bad person, period. That has never been in question. Can he still do some good actions? Yeah. Will he stop being a bad person? Can he? That's what we're going to find out eventually.
 
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The
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thing is getting kinda tired honestly. It feels like a cheap way to create drama or, if we assume that it's actually just him acting on his subconscious impulses, that he's just a bad person and makes me less invested in the story. At least with
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it was really stupid but it was just that, stupid.
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on the other hand, there's just no justification for.
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I thought exactly same until a few updates ago.

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Now i think about it. There is this thing called "The Dark Route" in the future... Which eats up all my hope.
 
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Moonflare said:
One day to go, it's time for our regular game! What do you want to happen most in update 0.47?
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Also like I said before, why not just say Sensei or MC?
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Atleast in my case i call "Sensei" the dick with a body he is, like the most inhuman part of him taking control of the situation. And "Akira" when he shows his humanity and care about the others and take rational decisions. I have done it since so long ago that i just do it out of habit
 
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fasoaga said:
If someone reads this and knows which event are they please share it
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The Happy Event from the fifth reset, Mother's Milk.
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How did I go this long without noticing the parallels to the Yumi scene? Even the background is the same.
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BlackDays said:
The Black and White games.
Don't know if they had more.
The "Black and White" games were interesting for their time (couldn't beat the last map in B&W2).
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Black & White, the Fable series, and The Movies, which was kind of a cross between Sims and one of the Theme ____ games, where you were managing a film studio, but the stars all acted like Sims. Better than the Sims games that were out at the time IMHO.
 
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barglenarglezous said:
Black & White, the Fable series, and The Movies, which was kind of a cross between Sims and one of the Theme ____ games, where you were managing a film studio, but the stars all acted like Sims. Better than the Sims games that were out at the time IMHO.
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Went a bit late into the Fable games, my last machine couldn't handle the 2nd entry, which was a poor console port back then, but i enjoyed the first.
Also own/played "The Movies". And while it was quite barebone and i lost interest rather fast, i had to have it.
Good old times.
 
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I'm trying to get the rest of my 0.46 thoughts written up today because I know from experience that if I don't get it done before the next update, I never will. The subjects for this post: the monks and what's going on with Ami.
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The Happy Event from the fifth reset, Mother's Milk.
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How did I go this long without noticing the parallels to the Yumi scene? Even the background is the same.
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Thank you very much.

I just replayed the event again and when sensei sees Yumi on the bridge:

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At first i thought wires were trying to stop him from grabbing Yumi but, after learning Sekai and Wires knows each other makes me think Wires may be the one who initiated the whole thing. But why would he do that. What has he against Yumi to the point of pushing Yumi.

Toward the end of the kiss, there is a remark of a car crash.

We know Sekai died in the crash, we are pretty sure Kaori got hurt in the crash, and we know Yumi and Kaori are related.

Is it possible Yumi is connected to accident but she didn't know or forgot?
 
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fasoaga said:
We know Sekai died in the crash, we are pretty sure Kaori got hurt in the crash, and we know Yumi and Kaori are related.

Is it possible Yumi is connected to accident but she didn't know or forgot?
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Nah, she would've known about Kaori then. She was completely unaware about her continued existence and her condition. Me thinks you're overthinking it, he mentions the car crash because the situation reminds him of his own with Sekai.
 
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But that's the thing. He's a bad person, period. That has never been in question. Can he still do some good actions? Yeah. Will he stop being a bad person? Can he? That's what we're going to find out eventually.
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Yeah but there's a difference between a bad person whose actions you can trace from their morality and rationale and a narrative just deciding that a bad thing will occur now. The resulting action is the same but one is intriguing and one isn't. That's what really matters at the end of the day, the intrigue over whether or not he can stop being a bad person depends on whether or not you believe his actions are his and so he can work his way towards that goal and whether or not you think he deserves to/can actually reach that goal.

Reminds me of a character from a game who ended up murdering a bunch of people in an experiment they did so they say they'll join the main character maybe after staying behind to work and try to atone for what they've done to the community. Except the community ends up all dying because narratively, there's no way to actually make up for that so the only alternative would've been to have them never join the main crew and that's bad for sales.

This also kinda reminds me of the dream argument but in this case it's deus ex machinas. Whether it's a deus ex machina causing him to do those things or whether those things are so fucked up that he needs a deus ex machina to redeem him (I think this one is more likely), either way would be bad for the story.
 
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Moonflare said:
One day to go, it's time for our regular game! What do you want to happen most in update 0.47?
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I'm looking forward to the return of cyclops Sana and blonde Chika, even if it's only temporary. I'm hoping that Sana chooses that hairstyle because freaky Sana is going to roleplay as innocent Sana in her sex scene. If that happens, you may as well call me Bingoogus because my almonds will be activated.

I can see the Rin and Chika interactions going in a lot of different ways, so that should be fun. I think Rin is going to meet Chinami without the dog mask for the first time - will she manage to make things weird (almost certainly, it's Rin)? Is Chinami going to get a new big sister?

How are Sensei & Io going to move forward on the green path? Surely "Stomachache" won't just be ignored, right? ...right?

Lore-wise, I'm fascinated by that Rin preview with Haruka. I'm hoping that means that Rin is being pulled into the meta-plot - she is an Arakawa after all ;). With five events between Rin and Sana, maybe we'll get some more hints that they're sisters. Will Tsuneyo's event give us any news on Mr. Tojo after what happened to Wires during the reset?
 
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aramaug said:
I'm trying to get the rest of my 0.46 thoughts written up today because I know from experience that if I don't get it done before the next update, I never will. The subjects for this post: the monks and what's going on with Ami.
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I think you are very close, those are some solid theories.

I think WIRES needs some protagonism soon, there hasn't been enough of him so far, at some point there has to be more on-face conversations.
 
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fasoaga said:
Thank you very much.

I just replayed the event again and when sensei sees Yumi on the bridge:

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At first i thought wires were trying to stop him from grabbing Yumi but, after learning Sekai and Wires knows each other makes me think Wires may be the one who initiated the whole thing. But why would he do that. What has he against Yumi to the point of pushing Yumi.

Toward the end of the kiss, there is a remark of a car crash.

We know Sekai died in the crash, we are pretty sure Kaori got hurt in the crash, and we know Yumi and Kaori are related.

Is it possible Yumi is connected to accident but she didn't know or forgot?
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There is a lot we don't understand about both Yumi and Wires. Nodoka has provided a very reasonable explanation as to why Akira goes into "autopilot" including the scene of "this town has two halves", in that Akira is compelled by himself to repeat what he has done so many times before.

Pareidolia, on the other hand, provides yet another convincing explanation in that no god can really control people that don't allow themselves to be controlled. So even if Wires was present, it's not a certainty that he forced Akira to do anything - at least no more than Pareidolia - and that's currently up for debate, even though Akira acts like he was being controlled (I currently doubt it).

That being said, a very interesting event for Yumi is "Abyss", and that Pareidolia says that he knows her by a different name.
 
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Edit: would the moderator that edited my post please forward the rules of engament for when a spoiler tag is necessary here? Because depending on the definition, everything is a spoiler. I'm not being sassy btw, I genuinely have no idea as to what the measure is - and if one expects for it to be respected, we're going to need more guidance.
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The chances of a mod just walking by and editing your post is almost zero, it's incredibly more likely (like 99/1) someone reported your post, and i don't think it's at all a challenge to imagine who it was... as for getting the mod's attention, they're unlikely to see your edit, better to open a ticket.
 
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