Cerpin

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You're welcome to do what you want man, but hoo boy you have no idea how much worse you just made it. Northern Ireland is a different country. One where border tensions have been extremely bad for a very, very long time.
At the end of the day, do what you want, I just felt I had to say what I had to say.
For comparison though, imagine the character is supposedly from Texas, speaks with a Boston accent, and you've just said they're from "Up near Ottawa".
I don't think it's really that unlikely that someone from Armagh would identify as Irish over Northern Irish or British (stats say that 50% do) and we all play to our stereotypes when we are in unfamiliar places.

From my experience of living in my little den of republican sedition in the 2000's I can assure you that none of the folk from NI that I know consider themselves British and are very much capable of acting like they're from Gallway and smashing out some Gaelic when they're "on the mainland" (that phrase would really piss them off).

I would also suggest that in Molly's lifetime border tensions have hardly been "extremely bad".
 

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Since nobody mentioned it yet, this is just a heads up that due to circumstances out of his control, Selebus has posted in the Discord that he is extending his break, and the next Patreon update won't be until April 1st, but will be larger than previously planned. The public release of 0.13.0 part 2 will still be March 1st. I'm putting this message here so that people are aware.
 
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I don't think it's really that unlikely that someone from Armagh would identify as Irish over Northern Irish or British (stats say that 50% do) and we all play to our stereotypes when we are in unfamiliar places.

From my experience of living in my little den of republican sedition in the 2000's I can assure you that none of the folk from NI that I know consider themselves British and are very much capable of acting like they're from Gallway and smashing out some Gaelic when they're "on the mainland" (that phrase would really piss them off).

I would also suggest that in Molly's lifetime border tensions have hardly been "extremely bad".
This and Molly is an incredibly theatrical person who is playing to an audience with pre-conceived, "touristy" notions of Ireland. It's pretty typical for teenagers to embrace and project an intensely romanticized version of a heritage they may not totally understand, especially when they're alone in a strange land.

I'm not really sure what she's supposed to be like, like should she be waxing poetic about brexit and raging against catholics and the idea of an independent Ireland? I could see complaining if she was constantly harping about Ireland but it really doesn't come up that much after her introduction.

As for the red hair, I could see that being a valid complaint if there weren't also girls with blue, green, and neon pink hair in the game.
 

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Since nobody mentioned it yet, this is just a heads up that due to circumstances out of his control, Selebus has posted in the Discord that he is extending his break, and the next Patreon update won't be until April 1st, but will be larger than previously planned. The public release of 0.13.0 part 2 will still be March 1st. I'm putting this message here so that people are aware.
Understood, thanks for the heads up, it wasn't posted to SubscribeStar, so some of us may not have gotten it even as patrons. I do hope he is alright.

This and Molly is an incredibly theatrical person who is playing to an audience with pre-conceived, "touristy" notions of Ireland. It's pretty typical for teenagers to embrace and project an intensely romanticized version of a heritage they may not totally understand, especially when they're alone in a strange land.

I'm not really sure what she's supposed to be like, like should she be waxing poetic about brexit and raging against catholics and the idea of an independent Ireland? I could see complaining if she was constantly harping about Ireland but it really doesn't come up that much after her introduction.

As for the red hair, I could see that being a valid complaint if there weren't also girls with blue, green, and neon pink hair in the game.
It seems that way or she probably wouldn't feel the need to mention stereotypes, though half the time she's playing up the gamer/fantasy world aspect that comes from her being an apparently avid D&D player more than anything with her constant references to things that don't exist in the real game world, which is Kumon-Mi and the real world from the characters' perspectives, or the real real world, which is the one we as players know.
 
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Cerpin

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I'm not really sure what she's supposed to be like, like should she be waxing poetic about brexit and raging against catholics and the idea of an independent Ireland? I could see complaining if she was constantly harping about Ireland but it really doesn't come up that much after her introduction.
She definitely hasn't ranted about "flegs" enough to be a unionist ;)
 

molitar

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alex2011, you nuts! This game has a serious damn tracker issue! EVERY SINGLE damn girl that I have seen has nearly 75 affection points and NOTHING new fucking happens because the damn tracker doesn't even give you a damn clue what you need to do! If I had played this game from day 1 I would been up to date and been able to do all the damn events but come into the game at this release with a shit tracker that does not give any damn clues it's IMPOSSIBLE!

This game has TOO MANY events when it has a useless tracker! All other games I play give some sort of clue at least but this one has a horrible UI management. Click on girl.. check stat.. go back.. click on girl.. check on stat go back. It has girls that you have not even seen in the game yet in the tracker! No simple next/previous buttons to check on girls stats.

The grind as you do not even KNOW how much affection or lust you need is RIDICULOUS! No damn clues for anything in this game it becomes a pointless repeat everything and HOPE you get somewheres! The game is not possible at this stage without a tracker that provides clues or gives suggestions! Well maybe I need 50 lust.. get there nothing new.. let me try 75.. get there nothing new. Let's try 100 affection get there nothing new. This game has NO GOALS for you to proceed! No suggestions.. it's all random.

1. Art 5/5
2. Sound 4/5
3. Gameplay 1/5

Gameplay is 1/5 because you have no clues or suggestions on how to proceed. If your just playing this game for the first time forget it. Only that have been playing since day 1 has any clue as they have already done all the past events but for someone that is just starting forget it! It's not possible unless you want to spend days and days in a single game when there is better games out there with goals built into the game. This is just a random guessing game that ends up no fun after hours of repetitive tasks.
 

alutarox

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Literally nothing in this game requires > 40 affection yet, and I think the highest lust you need for anything is like 10, maybe 15. Basically, either you have a glitched version of the game (maybe from extracting one version over another? it's a common that that can cause fuckups) or you simply aren't trying things, maybe you're stuck on one particular "happy" event that requires you to do something unintuitive (go to the dorms in the evening then select "go home" or maybe the one that requires you to check the "invite over" menu long before you actually unlock the ability to do that with anyone) or maybe you're constantly visiting the girls in one location when you need to visit them in another to trigger an event.

This game isn't really meant to be intuitive, but it's also not meant to be grindy. If you're encountering excessive grind, either you're doing something wrong, something's gone wrong, or you're simply not experimenting enough.

edit: also, the tracker is experimental, it even says so right there at the top of the screen
 

JMccovery

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I only use the tracker to see what I haven't completed, then I work from there.

You can kinda figure out what you need to do by reading patch notes, that aside the wiki does exist, and can help lead you into events.

Currently, the girls with the highest affection are:
Ami at 76 (because she's somewhat fun to hang out with between events)
Rin at 75 (because Rin; and that I'm weirdly attracted to girls with "problems")
Makoto at 74 (because bullying her is so much fun)
Maya at 72 (you will love me, damnit)

All that is from just playing the game with nothing else to do but wait until the next update.

You have to think about things as if the girls were real, and had lives; you're not going to be able to do everything at one time or back-to-back with each girl, sometimes, you just gotta wait and/or go mess with someone else.

The tracker works, as it's purpose is just to tell you what you have completed, and what you have yet to complete; it's not there to tell you how to complete things, as that really would be pointless.
 
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alex2011, you nuts! This game has a serious damn tracker issue! EVERY SINGLE damn girl that I have seen has nearly 75 affection points and NOTHING new fucking happens because the damn tracker doesn't even give you a damn clue what you need to do! If I had played this game from day 1 I would been up to date and been able to do all the damn events but come into the game at this release with a shit tracker that does not give any damn clues it's IMPOSSIBLE!

This game has TOO MANY events when it has a useless tracker! All other games I play give some sort of clue at least but this one has a horrible UI management. Click on girl.. check stat.. go back.. click on girl.. check on stat go back. It has girls that you have not even seen in the game yet in the tracker! No simple next/previous buttons to check on girls stats.

The grind as you do not even KNOW how much affection or lust you need is RIDICULOUS! No damn clues for anything in this game it becomes a pointless repeat everything and HOPE you get somewheres! The game is not possible at this stage without a tracker that provides clues or gives suggestions! Well maybe I need 50 lust.. get there nothing new.. let me try 75.. get there nothing new. Let's try 100 affection get there nothing new. This game has NO GOALS for you to proceed! No suggestions.. it's all random.

1. Art 5/5
2. Sound 4/5
3. Gameplay 1/5

Gameplay is 1/5 because you have no clues or suggestions on how to proceed. If your just playing this game for the first time forget it. Only that have been playing since day 1 has any clue as they have already done all the past events but for someone that is just starting forget it! It's not possible unless you want to spend days and days in a single game when there is better games out there with goals built into the game. This is just a random guessing game that ends up no fun after hours of repetitive tasks.
Tbh you really don't need to do a lot of grinding, it's easy to miss a step and then not trigger any events but then when you find the missing piece of the puzzle, it all falls into place. Use the wiki if it helps you, I used it for the second half of the current game and it saved me a lot of time. And affection doesn't have to be anywhere near 70 by the way, and I don't think lust has to be over 15 for anyone yet, never mind 50 you just have to be precise in order to trigger the events
Like I said, if you're getting stuck just use the wiki, it's what it's there for, and it'll save you time
 
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akselx

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alex2011, you nuts! This game has a serious damn tracker issue! EVERY SINGLE damn girl that I have seen has nearly 75 affection points and NOTHING new fucking happens because the damn tracker doesn't even give you a damn clue what you need to do! If I had played this game from day 1 I would been up to date and been able to do all the damn events but come into the game at this release with a shit tracker that does not give any damn clues it's IMPOSSIBLE!
This game (and everyone in this thread, really) tells you straight up that it works off 5 multiplayer. In other words, every 5 points of stat something happens. That was enough of a clue for me. My guess, you've zeroed in on a couple of girls and stuck there, because some events are shared and require multiple girls to have affection "up to date".

This game has TOO MANY events when it has a useless tracker! All other games I play give some sort of clue at least but this one has a horrible UI management. Click on girl.. check stat.. go back.. click on girl.. check on stat go back. It has girls that you have not even seen in the game yet in the tracker! No simple next/previous buttons to check on girls stats.
Tracker is experimental, my dude. And it does what it is designed to do: straight up tells you you still got events. "Progress" button is good enough to check stats. Works for me.

The grind as you do not even KNOW how much affection or lust you need is RIDICULOUS! No damn clues for anything in this game it becomes a pointless repeat everything and HOPE you get somewheres! The game is not possible at this stage without a tracker that provides clues or gives suggestions! Well maybe I need 50 lust.. get there nothing new.. let me try 75.. get there nothing new. Let's try 100 affection get there nothing new. This game has NO GOALS for you to proceed! No suggestions.. it's all random.
You have more than enough clues. You can tell which girls still have events for you. You can check what events you've seen or yet to see. There are only so much places you can meet a girl to start the event. Kirin is the only girl you can meet three times a day, twice a week. I think dev specifically designed events so they don't trigger the same place for a girl twice in a row. If one place didn't work - check the other.

Gameplay is 1/5 because you have no clues or suggestions on how to proceed. If your just playing this game for the first time forget it. Only that have been playing since day 1 has any clue as they have already done all the past events but for someone that is just starting forget it! It's not possible unless you want to spend days and days in a single game when there is better games out there with goals built into the game. This is just a random guessing game that ends up no fun after hours of repetitive tasks.
All the clues are there. People, me including, been playing this game without a tracker. If you think it's grindy, you either never played really grindy games, or your save is fundamentally broken somehow.
 

akselx

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Also love how there’s an actual button in the game now that tells you how to trigger everything and there are some people who still click the same button for 800+ days expecting something different to happen. Pure gold
Man, I've notice you get too defensive sometimes. I get it, and would feel the same in your place, but I'd suggest to chill on that a bit, for your mental health. Not literally chill, of course. You have enoth of that, I imagine. I live in Russia and it constantly negative 16-30 celsius the last couple of month and my freaking window have a poor isolation.
 

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Man, I've notice you get too defensive sometimes. I get it, and would feel the same in your place, but I'd suggest to chill on that a bit, for your mental health. Not literally chill, of course. You have enoth of that, I imagine. I live in Russia and it constantly negative 16-30 celsius the last couple of month and my freaking window have a poor isolation.
Pfffffft I gave up on mental health years ago. Now I’m just a toxic ass millennial who survives off of caffeine and takis
 
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It kills me to see what's happening to Texas right now, it's one of my favorite states I've been to. Keep safe and hopefully they'll be able to get things relatively back to normal soon.
 
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