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Eh, the smile doesn't really seem creepy to me. It feels more like she's forcing a smile to appear okay when she clearly isn't. She doesn't want Sensei to worry, so she throws on a fake smile to reassure him but given what's going on and the state of her appearance, it's clearly fake and doesn't match how she truly feels.
It's mostly the eyes that do it plus the situation. I would suggest watching her "Delirium" event for the full effect. When she has that look, she isn't in her normal state of mind, which causes one to worry for her well being, even her safety if she were to be left alone. While she is indeed trying to avoid worrying people, though it's a little late for that in the events this specialized model of her appears in, she ends up making them worry more, the opposite of her intention. I'm not even sure she was emotionally capable of trying to avoid worrying others during "Delirium" specifically.
 
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I think when I replay this in a few months time, I'll only pick 2 or 3 of the girls, or maybe even just one. Like Rin and Uta. Choosing to have a harem leads to complications. So I'll try out a loyalty campaign. Maya is my dream waifu though. I'd ignore every other girl for Maya
 

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I think when I replay this in a few months time, I'll only pick 2 or 3 of the girls, or maybe even just one. Like Rin and Uta. Choosing to have a harem leads to complications. So I'll try out a loyalty campaign. Maya is my dream waifu though. I'd ignore every other girl for Maya
have fun being stuck before the first reset I guess
 
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No I'll play their stories just I won't f*ck them or anything else, so rin/chika situations won't happen
Ah, I see. Though iirc, the only people where you get a choice are with Ami and Haruka... and the Rin/Chika situation is mitigatable through event ordering (avoiding triggering shadenfraude before the beach event)
 
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It's mostly the eyes that do it plus the situation. I would suggest watching her "Delirium" event for the full effect. When she has that look, she isn't in her normal state of mind, which causes one to worry for her well being, even her safety if she were to be left alone. While she is indeed trying to avoid worrying people, though it's a little late for that in the events this specialized model of her appears in, she ends up making them worry more, the opposite of her intention. I'm not even sure she was emotionally capable of trying to avoid worrying others during "Delirium" specifically.
Oh, definitely, it's worrying seeing her like that. The context doesn't register as creepy for me though. I definitely feel concerned for her well-being though. Rin's depressive episodes show a great contrast to the casual demeanor she outwardly portrays which leads me to wonder which is the real Rin. Is she really this chill girl or is that a face she puts on to convince herself and others that everything is alright?

And I agree she was in a completely different frame of mind during Delirium and wasn't smiling to reassure those around her. That I think was more her being so exhausted and out of it that her brain was just kind of running on a malfunctioning auto-pilot, hence flashing Sensei and being generally concerning. I'd say her state during Delirium compares to Makoto's state after Bluejay and the second reset. They're not necessarily one-to-one comparisons, but after Bluejay, Makoto is also exhausted, depressed, and delirious, and she carries a very similar smile, especially at her locker.
 

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Rin's depressive episodes show a great contrast to the casual demeanor she outwardly portrays which leads me to wonder which is the real Rin. Is she really this chill girl or is that a face she puts on to convince herself and others that everything is alright?
They're both the real Rin, she's probably bipolar. If you ask her which she wants to be, though, she'd probably tell you the chill and cheerful one.
 
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I think when I replay this in a few months time, I'll only pick 2 or 3 of the girls, or maybe even just one. Like Rin and Uta. Choosing to have a harem leads to complications. So I'll try out a loyalty campaign. Maya is my dream waifu though. I'd ignore every other girl for Maya
Not a good idea, there are times when a character you didn't choose will be necessary to move on. By choosing only one or two, you guarantee you will get stuck at a point that depends on which girls are chosen. This is one of the most common issues with people getting stuck second only to people not having 'happy' scenes done. A few months will not change that, you'll have to wait a year at least as that will likely not be a good idea at any point on the route we're on. Your best bet is to wait until the 'purity routes' are implemented as those are supposedly going to be single girl capable, but this is the 'dark route,' which is not.

No I'll play their stories just I won't f*ck them or anything else, so rin/chika situations won't happen
The Rin/Chika thing is not a lust event, it is part of their story events. The only way to avoid it is to hold off on the character after a certain point entirely until after a certain point in the main story.

Oh, definitely, it's worrying seeing her like that. The context doesn't register as creepy for me though. I definitely feel concerned for her well-being though. Rin's depressive episodes show a great contrast to the casual demeanor she outwardly portrays which leads me to wonder which is the real Rin. Is she really this chill girl or is that a face she puts on to convince herself and others that everything is alright?

And I agree she was in a completely different frame of mind during Delirium and wasn't smiling to reassure those around her. That I think was more her being so exhausted and out of it that her brain was just kind of running on a malfunctioning auto-pilot, hence flashing Sensei and being generally concerning. I'd say her state during Delirium compares to Makoto's state after Bluejay and the second reset. They're not necessarily one-to-one comparisons, but after Bluejay, Makoto is also exhausted, depressed, and delirious, and she carries a very similar smile, especially at her locker.
They are both the real Rin, but one is the real her under the effects of a great emotional pain that has yet to be disclosed. Depression doesn't just pop up at random, there's always an underlying cause and it is often an outside influence even if it isn't apparent.

She is definitely trying to act normal to avoid worrying the people around her, but she was likely the way she presents herself normally before depression set in. What we see when she tries to act normal is the way she really was when not depressed. The real trick is figuring out when that mess started for her and it sounds like it has been going on for years.

Yeah, Makoto's smile also had the creepy vibe going. It is that 'out of it' part that makes it creepy. It's fine when they actually do it of their own accord, not instinctively, but being as out of it as they were was the creepy part.

They're both the real Rin, she's probably bipolar. If you ask her which she wants to be, though, she'd probably tell you the chill and cheerful one.
I'm not so sure about being bipolar, this seems more like she's dealing with a past event that still haunts her, an intense emotional trauma. There is no indication of it and you would think someone like Futaba, as caring and almost motherly as she is, would realize something like that if she saw it, which means we would likely know about it by now as well. Of course she would want to be the cheerful her that comes out when she isn't in depressed episode, typical Rin. Of course, anyone would rather be a cheerful version of themself rather than so depressed they may not even know what is going on around them.

I didn't kiss Chika when there was "=) =(" options. But now it looks like I don't have any new event besides kissing in room event with Chika. Can I play it of it will hurt Rin?
The only way to hurt Rin is to do "Schadenfreude" before the beach event. After that, anything you do with Chika is safe. That said, I don't remember a kiss, but my mind is still focused on a scene from the current patron build, so I likely just pushed it aside in my head to focus on that subconsciously.
 
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The only way to hurt Rin is to do "Schadenfreude" before the beach event. After that, anything you do with Chika is safe. That said, I don't remember a kiss, but my mind is still focused on a scene from the current patron build, so I likely just pushed it aside in my head to focus on that subconsciously.
They're talking about the kiss you can have with chika when she takes you to the other half of the town for the first time (before asking you to leave for at the time unspecified reasons (she's probably going to look after chinami))
 
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They're both the real Rin, she's probably bipolar. If you ask her which she wants to be, though, she'd probably tell you the chill and cheerful one.
Yeah, something like this is probably the answer. Things in real life are rarely either one or the other and the game's writing has shown to portray people in a more realistic way than most.
 
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I'm not so sure about being bipolar, this seems more like she's dealing with a past event that still haunts her, an intense emotional trauma. There is no indication of it and you would think someone like Futaba, as caring and almost motherly as she is, would realize something like that if she saw it, which means we would likely know about it by now as well. Of course she would want to be the cheerful her that comes out when she isn't in depressed episode, typical Rin. Of course, anyone would rather be a cheerful version of themself rather than so depressed they may not even know what is going on around them.
Pretty sure there's a reference to medication and there's her appointment, which may have been with a therapist
 
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They're talking about the kiss you can have with chika when she takes you to the other half of the town for the first time (before asking you to leave for at the time unspecified reasons (she's probably going to look after chinami))
I see, though I distinctly remember that not happening before the beach event, which is the only current point with consequences. The beach event directly involved Rin, that other scene does not. Also, taking into account Rin's current story after the beach, consequences for involvement with Chika are unlikely for any event after the beach.

Pretty sure there's a reference to medication and there's her appointment, which may have been with a therapist
Antidepressants are a medication used outside of bipolar disorder for depression and many other issues. I'm on them IRL for insomnia as they are supposed to have a sedative effect that can help one sleep without going into full blown sedatives, which can be dangerous to the user without medical supervision and proper knowledge of how to use them.

Therapy after an incident that leaves mental/emotional trauma is also not uncommon, especially if that trauma leads to depression. In fact, therapy is one of the first steps to proper treatment of depression, bipolar disorder present or not.

It is also often a step avoided by those who suffer from depression for reasons like the ones Rin uses as justification to herself to act normal when she is clearly suffering instead of seeking the help of those around her. If not for her foster parents, Rin might not have been alive in the game because they forced her into therapy for her own good, something she is admittedly grateful to them for.

Depression is one of the major causes of suicide with those who go that far often refusing to seek help for some personal reason like not wanting people to worry, not wanting people to dislike them, not wanting to be treated differently, stuff like that.
 

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I see, though I distinctly remember that not happening before the beach event, which is the only current point with consequences. The beach event directly involved Rin, that other scene does not. Also, taking into account Rin's current story after the beach, consequences for involvement with Chika are unlikely for any event after the beach.


Antidepressants are a medication used outside of bipolar disorder for depression and many other issues. I'm on them IRL for insomnia as they are supposed to have a sedative effect that can help one sleep without going into full blown sedatives, which can be dangerous to the user without medical supervision and proper knowledge of how to use them.

Therapy after an incident that leaves mental/emotional trauma is also not uncommon, especially if that trauma leads to depression. In fact, therapy is one of the first steps to proper treatment of depression, bipolar disorder present or not.

It is also often a step avoided by those who suffer from depression for reasons like the ones Rin uses as justification to herself to act normal when she is clearly suffering instead of seeking the help of those around her. If not for her foster parents, Rin might not have been alive in the game because they forced her into therapy for her own good, something she is admittedly grateful to them for.

Depression is one of the major causes of suicide with those who go that far often refusing to seek help for some personal reason like not wanting people to worry, not wanting people to dislike them, not wanting to be treated differently, stuff like that.
I'm not saying it's the only possible answer, just saying that it's a possibility, and the way she goes from having lots of energy to being depressed and insomniac also made me think of it. I'm sure there's a ton of things it could be, some of which I've probably never heard of.
 

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i am completely stuck, I am stuck on event Rewrite and im now in 340+ days - what have I fucked up?

edit: Im having a looking a guide

Rewrite Day 102+ Sunday Recall Takoyaki (Maya) The Letter ‘T’ (Happy) How I Feel (Happy)

This makes no sense to me.
 
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i am completely stuck, I am stuck on event Rewrite and im now in 340+ days - what have I fucked up?

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Rewrite Day 102+ Sunday Recall Takoyaki (Maya) The Letter ‘T’ (Happy) How I Feel (Happy)

This makes no sense to me.
The guide only tells you how to unlock the event. To unlock rewrite, you need to be on Day 102+, a Sunday, and complete the events Recall (main event), Takoyaki (Maya event) The Letter ‘T’ (Happy event) How I Feel (Happy event).

Also, what event are you stuck on? Rewrite's a really easy event – you just need to pick the option "Van Gogh." If you're stuck on the event where everyone disappeared and everyone's gone, first go to the soccer field to get a happy event.

Then pray at the shrine midday (where Maya usually is) five times. In the morning, you should see an option to go to school – click it. If that option doesn't pop up, you'll need to pray some more for it to come up.
 

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The guide only tells you how to unlock the event. To unlock rewrite, you need to be on Day 102+, a Sunday, and complete the events Recall (main event), Takoyaki (Maya event) The Letter ‘T’ (Happy event) How I Feel (Happy event).

Also, what event are you stuck on? Rewrite's a really easy event – you just need to pick the option "Van Gogh." If you're stuck on the event where everyone disappeared and everyone's gone, first go to the soccer field to get a happy event.

Then pray at the shrine midday (where Maya usually is) five times. In the morning, you should see an option to go to school – click it. If that option doesn't pop up, you'll need to pray some more for it to come up.
Im downloading part 2 from 1. I will have a look at what you're suggesting but a number of what you're suggesting I don't think or remember how to do. I dont know what you mean by pray at the shrine, I have 50+ relation with Maya but I can only go to the shrine on the weekends, if you mean this then I believe I have done that already. I just cant seem to get that to trigger.

As far as im aware i have clicked every option possible at all times of the day at this point.
 
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I'm not saying it's the only possible answer, just saying that it's a possibility, and the way she goes from having lots of energy to being depressed and insomniac also made me think of it. I'm sure there's a ton of things it could be, some of which I've probably never heard of.
She's not going from energetic to depressed, she's acting energetic when around other people and then dropping the act when alone. If one were to somehow spy on her without her finding out at some point when she was alone, they would see the other Rin, not the energetic side, but the depressed one. She's hiding how she really feels so no one will notice, though she met her match with Futaba as that girl seems capable of sensing emotional issues like a freaking Bloodhound. It's scary how perceptive Futaba can be if she's really trying to be.

I'm not saying bipolar disorder is out totally, but the evidence so far points toward trauma-induced depression, likely induced by an event with her real parents. If it weren't for some of the things she's mentioned about her past, I would be inclined to agree that there is a disorder involved.

Im downloading part 2 from 1. I will have a look at what you're suggesting but a number of what you're suggesting I don't think or remember how to do. I dont know what you mean by pray at the shrine, I have 50+ relation with Maya but I can only go to the shrine on the weekends, if you mean this then I believe I have done that already. I just cant seem to get that to trigger.

As far as im aware i have clicked every option possible at all times of the day at this point.
He means that's what you do if you find yourself alone in the town. You can't pray when you are not in that specific event. If you can still encounter any of the girls, you are not in the event where praying needs to be done.
 
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Im downloading part 2 from 1. I will have a look at what you're suggesting but a number of what you're suggesting I don't think or remember how to do. I dont know what you mean by pray at the shrine, I have 50+ relation with Maya but I can only go to the shrine on the weekends, if you mean this then I believe I have done that already. I just cant seem to get that to trigger.

As far as im aware i have clicked every option possible at all times of the day at this point.
This is an event many people find difficult to trigger. Go to the dorms and choose the "Go Home" option. If you haven't seen the event that happens immediately after you choose that, then that's probably what's been preventing you from progressing.
 

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How do I kick off semblance of a soul? Looking online it says you have to have these events done for these events to happen, but it doesn't say how to start any event. I'm totally stuck and unable to move forward at all in the story, mikoto has semblance of a soul left and there are two main events left but nothing I do does anything different at all. I was really enjoying the game and now I'm at day 700 and haven't moved forward in 300 days it's ridiculous.
 
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How do I kick off semblance of a soul? Looking online it says you have to have these events done for these events to happen, but it doesn't say how to start any event. I'm totally stuck and unable to move forward at all in the story, mikoto has semblance of a soul left and there are two main events left but nothing I do does anything different at all. I was really enjoying the game and now I'm at day 700 and haven't moved forward in 300 days it's ridiculous.
What is the last main story event that you completed? Have you seen the Christmas events yet?
 
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