Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[FireCazador]

But Chinami and Tsukasa are children, and thus different. Both of them were shown naked

Both? I dont remember seeing Tsukasa naked.

One of my favorite fourth-wall jokes in VNs, when one person says, "Tomato, tomato" and the other person says, "You know that doesn't work here, right?"

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So while I’ve been waiting for the update, I’ve been playing through Nier Automata while also watching the anime (which is really fucking good somehow).

What have folks been playing to pass the time?

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I think I can speak for (almost) everyone here that nobody wants to see any explicit scene involving wizards.

It not really wanting but i want it to happen to watch the world burn xd

 

[shmurfer]

Both? I dont remember seeing Tsukasa naked.

The hot springs with Chika's virginity taking, Tsukasa shows up for a bit. I can get a screenshot if you need it. It's as nude as Chinami's been shown.

 

[Detective Dc345]

The hot springs with Chika's virginity taking, Tsukasa shows up for a bit. I can get a screenshot if you need it. It's as nude as Chinami's been shown.

Is this a mandela effect? I always remembered her having a towel on

 

[hopeisdead6969]

Beside some gachas like Genshin Impact, Star Rail and Wuthering Waves

I did 1 ending of Sekiro with a friend xd

Love me some Sekiro. What ending did you guys do?

 

[FireCazador]

The hot springs with Chika's virginity taking, Tsukasa shows up for a bit. I can get a screenshot if you need it. It's as nude as Chinami's been shown.

Oh right, i remember now

Love me some Sekiro. What ending did you guys do?

Purification ending. My friend was guiding me to do everything so i did every boss and mini bosses

 

[barglenarglezous]

Is this a mamdela effect? I always remembered her having a towel on

If you played it back when it first came out, she has a towel on, and there was a patch that added the alternate image. This was done purely for Patreon. Once the Patreon got nuked, he moved the alternate image into the game and the patch became unnecessary.

 

[shmurfer]

There is only one green path. Choose Tsukasa, or you’re off green path. According to author, it is possible to get all events green in a single playthrough, so in that sense, when given a choice in game, there’s a “right” choice and “wrong” choices only.

I don't think you can even miss any Chinami events so far.

Chinami is secretly the final boss of this game, you can't convince me shes not. Don't call me crazy, I know I'm right about this!

In a way you never intended, not story spoilers or even canon, purely based on a non canon care package scene you are technically correct. In the future She does become CEO of Chinami Corp so she's a boss. Or at least however solvent a company that still sells giraffes can be

I think I can speak for (almost) everyone here that nobody wants to see any explicit scene involving wizards. In fact, I personally find it hard to imagine a way that it would not end up being inherently tasteless.
However, I am not here to tell the author how to write and portray his story. If Sel deems it necessary to show certain parts of it, then maybe he will find a way to make it somehow seem worth it.

If he's going for bold art or anything like that, starting with Tsukasa is one hell of a bold move. Tsukasa knows nothing of sex nor finds Sensei attractive so it could only be a grooming style relationship. Chinami's the one who'd actually want to make him happy by any means. And who knows what the fuck Nao would even do.

Is this a mamdela effect? I always remembered her having a towel on

If you played it back when it first came out, she has a towel on, and there was a patch that added the alternate image. This was done purely for Patreon. Once the Patreon got nuked, he moved the alternate image into the game and the patch became unnecessary.

Spoiler: HOT WIZARD TITTIES INSIDE

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[Fake Rabi ~]

Gatorade and Red Wine.

Too much = any amount

oh gatorade? i thought it was something else...

 

[Deleted member 4389531]

When u spend new years hangin w/ lil bros playin Jack an the box
Hehe just thought this image was funny and thought id share

 

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

Gatorade and Red Wine.

Too much = any amount

That sounds like a combination someone would do at a party that has a 97% chance of being bad.
Also I fucking hate Cyberspace in Sonic Frontiers. Fuck that shit.

oh gatorade? i thought it was something else...

I thought it was some wine made in a very unique way.

When u spend new years hangin w/ lil bros playin Jack an the box
Hehe just thought this image was funny and thought id share

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Bro is fucking foreshadowing to them. Oh and also, that human looks like this fucker

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Spoiler: HOT WIZARD TITTIES INSIDE

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I mistook it as HOT WAKANA TITTIES man

 

[barglenarglezous]

That sounds like a combination someone would do at a party that has a 97% chance of being bad.

Specifically, it's one of the blue flavors of Gatorade with cheap-ass red wine. Which makes it a college party tier beverage.

Like when I put vodka in my Mountain Dew and acted like I was some kind of mixologist. Thought I'd still drink taht over gatorwine.

 

[LoveRedHairedGirl]

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What time zone?

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

What time zone?

Central time

 

[chikipiki]

So to see what Selebus thought about Wizard-s*x I searched for his comments on the discord server. These are his comments

I’m disturbed by the people disturbed by wizard sex because it implies they aren’t also disturbed by fucking the regular class

Those wizards are getting the D and anyone who draws the line there is:
A - Fucking weird for thinking everything else is just okay
B - A liar because they actively need to go out of their way to get those scenes

I will never stop being creeped out by the people who think it’s okay to bang the high school girls but not the wizards (edited)

Treating fictional characters like real people is fucking weird to begin with but you’ve gotta be a real sketch to think just one of those things is okay if you’re going to apply real life characteristics and rights to the girls

Sooo.... it seems like he doesn't see a difference between the lolis wizards and the class which is retarded. I think there will be explicit wizard stuff but behind an unofficial "fan" patch or something.

 

[Yarazin]

Happy New Year from my time zone. Appreciate you all, hope we have a nice year of updates with nothing that causes the kind on controversy like last update. Mostly cause I don't like that kind.

 

[hopeisdead6969]

So to see what Selebus thought about Wizard-s*x I searched for his comments on the discord server. These are his comments




Sooo.... it seems like he doesn't see a difference between the lolis wizards and the class which is retarded. I think there will be explicit wizard stuff but behind an unofficial "fan" patch or something.

It’s shit like this I don’t get. You present a moral question to people regarding this stuff, your story basically BEGS people to think about these questions, then say shit like that and undermine the very point of your whole story. How can one be a such a good writer, and yet completely disconnected from the impact of storytelling? Mind boggling idiocy.

 

[Deleted member 4389531]

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[GrandAdmiral99]

Happy New Year, everyone! Also OMFG, I can't wait to play the update. I was blessed to have a day off for it, so excited to say the least!

 

[Talishan]

It’s shit like this I don’t get. You present a moral question to people regarding this stuff, your story basically BEGS people to think about these questions, then say shit like that and undermine the very point of your whole story. How can one be a such a good writer, and yet completely disconnected from the impact of storytelling? Mind boggling idiocy.

It is particularly silly when you don't have a CHOICE with most of the girls. It isn't like I actively decided to pursue high school girls. I have a LOT of red. I am into this story BECAUSE I think it is fucked up and because I enjoy Akira's slow redeption and doing what I can to help him. I am quite happy with Nikki or Sara. I do kind of enjoy the coming of age romance stuff, but I would enjoy it more if the boy was their age and it were less... explicit. Like I said, though, a big part of why I play is because of how fucked up this all is. Jives with my own childhood experiences to some degree and jives heavily with how fucked up my brain is. No happy ending, everyone is fucked. Terrible shit goes down lots of places all the time and no one even gives a fuck. Why should this story be any different? Why should Akira get better? Why should these girls be okay? I WANT them to, but I don't expect them to at all, and I guess that is why I can't look away.

 

[SmallsMalone]

So to see what Selebus thought about Wizard-s*x I searched for his comments on the discord server. These are his comments


" I will never stop being creeped out by the people who think it’s okay to bang the high school girls but not the wizards (edited)

Treating fictional characters like real people is fucking weird to begin with but you’ve gotta be a real sketch to think just one of those things is okay if you’re going to apply real life characteristics and rights to the girls "

Sooo.... it seems like he doesn't see a difference between the lolis wizards and the class which is retarded. I think there will be explicit wizard stuff but behind an unofficial "fan" patch or something.

If I could try to interpret this stance on the situation, my initial reaction to this is that Sel can't avoid the reading that someone fine with sex with the rest of the class but upset by sex with the wizards is actively moralizing fictional sex depictions based on their real-world morality. In other words, by projecting some of your real world morality into the fictional world and avoiding sex with wizards, Sel extrapolates that when you enjoy engaging with the classroom you are ALSO makings decisions based on your real world morality.

With just this to go on, it seems like Sel only finds your morality consistent if you either:
A: Find grooming and sex with students repulsive and don't want to see it even in ficiton.
B: Don't apply real world morality to fictional characters and are fine with seeing anything.

I see where it's coming from, but I think it's a pretty reductive take. To use myself as an example, this position would find my stance on gore as simlarly hypocritical. I don't like watching extra gory horror films not because I find it morally reprehensible to depict necessarily, it just makes me personally uncomfortable to see past a certain point. Some bloody and realistic depictions are fine while others are too gratuitous and just overwhelm me. It's not that I "morally and intellectually can't watch the terrible thing happen" I just start having physical reactions to certain visuals that I'd rather avoid, given the choice.