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Though, I don't think their core beliefs have changed.
This is something that's hard for me to judge. After much contemplation, I have concluded it's hard enough to model characters normally, yet here we have potential brainwashing / skinwalking / unrealness complicating matters to nearly never before seen levels.
For example: is it a core belief of Kirin changing for her to quickly get over her sister being sexually assaulted? If we imagine Kirin as a real human being, I think she may have stabbed a bitch.
Is it a core belief of Futaba changing for her to be livid at Nodoka for exposing her private life, only to seemingly forget this and now feel totally fine with her class cheering her on as she publicly paws for sensei cock? If we imagine her as a normal girl, I think she would have died of embarrassment on the spot.
Is it a core belief of Chika changing for her to stop believing that love is monog- ahaha, I don't even have to finish this one.
(Universally: at this point, I feel there's no way the whole class is so comfortable with polyamory... it'd be a huge coincidence if almost are of them share the core belief it's okay for 1 adult man to fuck 20 teenagers at once.)

Another interesting thing is how getting Ayane to accept the harem was once an excruciating character-defining scene centering around the list, but now she seemingly doesn't remember the list, but is still totally okay with it.

Of course, an excellent aspect of fiction is that characters are black boxes of infinite depth which can surprise and delight, so I profess zero mastery or total knowledge regarding their core beliefs, but this update (along with some prior) did seem to reach the point of core aspects of characters being altered/modified such that they are increasingly a bit unrecognizable. I may be totally off base though. All I can really say is that the intuition within me which provides positive/negative responses to what I'm reading has stopped providing positive responses to the interactions between heroines who I find myself increasingly struggle to recognize. And, I admit, some of this must be inspired by my knowledge of Selebus's promise to have 'threesomes of each dorm' and 'every incest combination,' because if things feel bad to me now, I can only imagine how it will be when it really is a 20-girl orgy.

But indeed, that may be the point. I really hope it isn't since it is incorrigibly a western author thing to distort characters for their metaphysical points, but we shall see.
 
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*everything*
I don't think Kirin changed much, she loves her sister, but is a bit lot of a mess to deal with that love and pretty much prefers to consciously deal with her love for Sensei.
Futaba sadly has always been a bit of a pushover, and her entire character arc has been the gradual degradation of her self everything in relation to Sensei. He just takes it too far sometimes.
Chika, due to her own life, has always wanted to find THE ONE, and twisting reality so her ideal isn't destroyed is not that hard to believe.
Ayane too, over the resets she came to notice Sensei is broken and still loves him, but to me it seems she wants to fix him so she can be his only one, and failing that, which to her seems like an increasingly probable situation, just be part of his world.

You can also easily blame divine intervention, as they keep the mentality that brought those changes but not the memories themselves, so they don't have context for it and it destroys their mental. See Ayane not remembering the notebook, Chika literally deluding herself and Futaba's Nodoka book and TSS events. Kirin is just a mess.
And those promises? I think they will happen in the dark route will be a thing.

One can only hope Selebus hasn't fallen into that trap, or that he knows how to contextualize it.
 

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I don't think that's the case, Ayane doesn't remember anything from the reset so she's very unlikely to actually do anything with it
with Maya suggesting a shopping "date", and remembering that Himawari was the one selling the scarf to Akira, I think it's much more likely she's trying to reforce the event we saw in chapter 1
To introduce more time paradox shenanigans maybe this is how she got the scarf to sell to Akira in the first place. There is probably some implications in that if it were the case but I have too much holiday day drinking brain damage to think of what it would be at the moment.
 

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I'm a bit sad that so many people didn't "like" this update, or at least not as much as others, for me it's one of my favorite updates.
I understand the criticisms regarding the whole "nobody cares if akira is fucking everyone" but it's part of the plot, give it a bit of time.
Otoha redemption arc will also go hard.
Tsukioka plotline is really taking over and I think it wont end here.
Akira's relationship with Tsukasa which many people despise is an insight to how Maya x Akira might've started (which some of those same guys are shipping).
 

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I'm starting to lose faith or the tierlist. Updating older characters have become difficult. I have to pay attention to my general opinion of the characters but when there are gonna be 35 characters+ it becomes very hard to memorize everything. So unless something really bad or really good happens or I just suddenly realize I like a character a lot more than another in the same tier, they might get demoted. Then there is the naming and all that... Welp. Anyway.
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That was 100% my take on it when it was happening, he was following a technically correct interpretation of her command... actually made me feel a little bad for Imani...
Imani's treatment is weird. Akira rejects her forever because he wants a friend, which is totally fair.

Then he gives her oral because he feels sorry for her.

Then we have a date out of absolutely nowhere that just feels so off (maybe because there's just no buildup to it due to Selebus' strange decision of skipping 2 months in which stuff happened that Akira is aware of but not us).

Then he has sex with her, again, not because he really wants it or whatever, but just because sex, and it ends up being about Tsukasa.

It's just, I don't even know.
 

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where can I find my save? i haven't really play the game since the .42 update and now that it is .46 and i don't want to restart the progress.

I am thinking about moving my save to the new version not sure if that works.
 

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Imani's treatment is weird. Akira rejects her forever because he wants a friend, which is totally fair.

Then he gives her oral because he feels sorry for her.

Then we have a date out of absolutely nowhere that just feels so off (maybe because there's just no buildup to it due to Selebus' strange decision of skipping 2 months in which stuff happened that Akira is aware of but not us).

Then he has sex with her, again, not because he really wants it or whatever, but just because sex, and it ends up being about Tsukasa.

It's just, I don't even know.
The date happened because Imani wanted it and not Akira. This entire update he's acted like a yes-man and reducing himself to the toy he thinks he has become and can't escape.
 
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And that's really the tragedy of Akira. It's just that this monologue is overshadowed by Chika later. But the point of the matter is that Akira is now dealing with everything he should have dealt with when Sekai died. He never grew up. His innocence was taken. His predator was taken. His doll was taken. He now only has a broken shell filled with regrets and the bed of worms he injected these girls with.

And that's good. Because he's finally saying these things out loud. He needs to say them out loud, even if it's a cry for someone to kill him. It's at least something. And since this event isn't missable, it's the closest we have of him outright saying these things to someone so far, that I recall (since "Stomachache" is missable).
I liked that he builds on this in the last party event. I remember when I read both I thought, he is finally making progress.
 
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Yeah he just did not even bother to learn from the mistakes at all. Bro fucked, got caught, fucked again got caught, got caught again right after by the mom. Proceeds to fuck in the daughters bedroom, youngest daughter which will look even worse. Tsubasa will of course find out if she doesn't already know too. It was L's all over for the dude...at least Imani didn't get interrupted. But he was just using her.
I think he actually did learn and that's why he decided to do it. He did it expecting Tsukasa to see him and Imani, he took inspiration from everyone walking in on him fucking people that day to use it as a way to continue grooming Tsukasa.
Edit: Also add on what derekthered56 said.

Also now that I'm already speaking about the Tsukasa stuff. In one of my saves I chose pull the plug in "Failsafe"(Tsukasa event) But still got all the Tsukasa scenes in this update, "The Talk", etc. I wonder if its an oversight or if the choice in that event is intentionally pointless. The main reason I wonder is because in that save I'm still locked out of the call Tsukasa option. So I hope that save doesn't get soft locked in the future when an event that maybe will supposed to have been skipped needs me to call Tsukasa to progress the game but I cant.

P.S. I ran out of reacts but want to finish reading the thread so you can all have imaginary infinite Schrodinger's reacts for the rest of today.
 

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0.46 event triggers

There are 20 events in total. Most events (save two) are linked. The chain begins on a Friday. After Christmas is done with the main event "Post Nut Clarity", you have two other events:

19 - Tsukasa 2 (automatic on a sunday afternoon - I think you will need Tsukasa's route taken aka "tsukasacurious").
20 - Otoha 2 (visit her dorms, triggered for me on a weekday).

*How not to miss events: There are A LOT of flags being invoked, including one for Futaba which will fail a lot of events if not present. It happens during "The one with all the sextoys" and it needs Futaba Lust 40. The next one happens during Futaba's event, needing Molly's lust 10. If you got the two of them, then, and only then, Tsubasa's event will trigger.

Other than that, Kirin's blackmail will be checked leading to a difference in dialogue, as well as multiple calls for Tsukasa's route having been taken. The "amifingered" flag will change her conversation with Niki in the backstage. Most importantly however is a Himawari variation that needs Ayane affection over 3k. This happens during "Post nut clarity":
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There are also new invite over costumes for Kirin, but I have no interest whatsoever in those.

Edit: New animation 1 is Imani at the dive bar. 2 is Kirin inviteover Cowgirl.

It also has been pointed out that seeing the Himawari variation unblocks Maya - mind you, it doesn't really matter that much since the events you get access to are the old ones (like Maya prime old). And the shrine will still remain locked.

**thanks for the info on both animation and Maya locked flag.
Do you enter Tsukasa's route in this update? Because my tsukasacurious is false but there's no way I declined it
 
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In one of my saves I chose pull the plug in "Failsafe"(Tsukasa event) But still got all the Tsukasa scenes in this update, "The Talk", etc. I wonder if its an oversight or if the choice in that event is intentionally pointless. The main reason I wonder is because in that save I'm still locked out of the call Tsukasa option. So I hope that save doesn't get soft locked in the future when an event that maybe will supposed to have been skipped needs me to call Tsukasa to progress the game but I cant.
Don't think it's pointless. Calling her at that point means you've gone off the deep end. Whether you truly accept it or not at that moment is narratively irrelevant.
Just not gameplay-wise, since it means Sel will make a fuck you sequence inside an event on 2 years time for not accepting it now.
 

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Do you enter Tsukasa's route in this update? Because my tsukasacurious is false but there's no way I declined it
"tsukasacurious" is given during the update (I just added it because people were talking about it). If you have chosen Tsukasa thus far, you should be fine.
 
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"tsukasacurious" is given during the update (I just added it because people were talking about it). If you have chosen Tsukasa thus far, you should be fine.
Is getting over 3k Ayane affection also part of this event or is that not something you can get legit
 

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That is very true, he's still Cumming for a Tsukioka, and she's kindve offered up her daughters many times. So in the end she got what she wanted, even if he was trying to make himself more free or prove something by doing it in that room. Or, he was trying to also show off to Tsukasa which is also true. Which sucks for Imani because once again he is doing it for a much younger individual and not an adult. He truly is stuck in his past traumas.
I think he actually did learn and that's why he decided to do it. He did it expecting Tsukasa to see him and Imani, he took inspiration from everyone walking in on him fucking people that day to use it as a way to continue grooming Tsukasa.
Wow I mean...this truly is a great lesson learned. Well done Akira, taking your mistakes and using the mistake to have the same result but in your benefit. Grooming! (His state of mind is getting more and more cooked) Tsukasa will definitely ask him about stuff in the future though now. It's absolutely right he just abused the events here
 

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My updated 0.46 Tierlist (characters not in order)

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I feel like certain....events have given Tsubasa a higher placement on this list. But actually, what puts Tsukasa that high? For me I actually like her too, and her quirks are being revealed more now. Though I did see something about being a similar route to Maya, which is actually kinda true. He's "tutoring" her and all. Just it's worse now cause he's even older.
 

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Is getting over 3k Ayane affection also part of this event or is that not something you can get legit
Either you have to farm it beforehand, change the number or force choose the option through URM. I choose the latter myself, but to each their own. The check happens at the final lines of "post-nut clarity".
 
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