Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

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DeSkel15

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Nadekai said:
Maki and Molly aren't on complete top?
Also, why is Ami... so high?
And Sekai... so low?
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Maki and Molly seem fine with the Harem, but not really desiring the Harem itself.

Ami has suggested sharing multiple times, seemed to try to seduce Maya, offered Ayane Sensei in the name of friendship, and seems able to tolerate others as long as she's not pushed out. GU Ami is also more desperate than BU Ami, so I'd think she'd tolerate a Harem if she actually gets some.
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Is Sekai on conditional sharing because she'd let anyone have Akira BUT watermelon girl? lol
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Sekai seemed jealous of Niki, and Sensei was likely dating Niki while fucking Sekai. So, there seemed to be conditional sharing going on, but I'm not sure if Sensei was allowed to fuck Niki, considering even a strand of Niki's hair apparently got him in trouble with Sekai.

Of course, that's alive Sekai. The supernatural Sekai says stuff like this:
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DeSkel15 said:
They seem fine with the Harem, but not really desiring the Harem itself.

Ami has suggested sharing multiple times, seemed to try to seduce Maya, offered Ayane Sensei in the name of friendship, and seems able to tolerate others as long as she's not pushed out. GU Ami is also more desperate than BU Ami, so I'd think she'd tolerate a Harem if she actually gets some.

Sekai seemed jealous of Niki, and Sensei was likely dating Niki while fucking Sekai. So, there seemed to be conditional sharing going on, but I'm not sure if Sensei was allowed to fuck Niki, considering even a strand of Niki's hair apparently got him in trouble with Sekai.

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Actually, on the Sekai front, since you touched upon this topic before when Sekai talked about happiness on the first happy event she teaches Akira, Maya and Ami with the dildos, do you think Sekai truly "loved" Akira? And if so, do you also think she only loved Akira?

Cause that event really seemed to point in that direction, since for her to know Akira she'd already be with Nozomu, and until having sex with Akira she wasn't happy.

I wonder a lot about their relationship, and if she truly loved Akira then why'd she tease him about his brother (given that she could be keeping her husband just as an excuse to be close to Akira).

She'd also tease Akira about Niki, so it isn't clear to me even if Akira sought Niki as an escape, or on command from Sekai. He leaving Niki when Sekai died (and never having sex with her) is also a bad sign for his feelings towards her. And I do wonder sometimes if his first real love was Maya instead (maybe that's why Sekai hates so much).
 
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Actually, on the Sekai front, since you touched upon this topic before when Sekai talked about happiness on the first happy event she teaches Akira, Maya and Ami with the dildos, do you think Sekai truly "loved" Akira? And if so, do you also think she only loved Akira?

Cause that event really seemed to point in that direction, since for her to know Akira she'd already be with Nozomu, and until having sex with Akira she wasn't happy.

I wonder a lot about their relationship, and if she truly loved Akira then why'd she tease him about his brother (given that she could be keeping her husband just as an excuse to be close to Akira).

She'd also tease Akira about Niki, so it isn't clear to me even if Akira sought Niki as an escape, or on command from Sekai. He leaving Niki when Sekai died (and never having sex with her) is also a bad sign for his feelings towards her. And I do wonder sometimes if his first real love was Maya instead (maybe that's why Sekai hates so much).
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I think Sekai at least thought she loved Sensei. At first it was just fun, but she eventually grew attached to him, and then Ami showed up, and those two are probably the only people she ever loved. Ami more so than Sensei, though.

Nozomu was probably more along the lines of a means to an end. Based off his wife fucking others behind his back, his younger bro fucking his wife, and Ami's description of him as normal, I'm guessing he was kind of a pushover that Sekai had control over.

I'm also not entirely convinced Sensei actually loved Maya, tbh. It seems like she just reminded him of himself and he may have tried "fixing" her:
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and their relationship was the outcome.

Keep in mind, that he's more willing to fuck those he doesn't care about (Imani vs Rika). That's probably why he didn't fuck Niki, Noriko, or Ami pre resets. He actually cared about them as more than sex toys. Maya? Well, he may have grew attached to her over time like Sekai did him, but those years still aren't clear.
 
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So, one of the things that hasn't been made clear yet is what exactly Maya did (that made her into a bad person). I was rewatching Noriko's conversation with Maya on the second beach trip, and the possibility for blackmail from Maya increased.
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I think it's interesting because this conversation points out that Maya did some fucked up shit to get Akira away from Noriko (actually from Niki and Sekai), and that she was more or less in the same position as Ami in being a child trying to care for a broken adult. She tried to get him to move past them, but he was unable to, so they became these sources of fear for Maya (that she could do nothing about, but avoid).

Overall both of them want him to be healthy, but also not so healthy that he doesn't need them anymore - probably because if that day ever came to pass, then both Ami and Maya would also have to grow, and deal with the fact that Akira may simply not want to engage with them in a romantic manner (he could, but the possibility has got to be really scary for two people that have no one else in the world).

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So, one of the things that hasn't been made clear yet is what exactly Maya did (that made her into a bad person). I was rewatching Noriko's conversation with Maya on the second beach trip, and the possibility for blackmail from Maya increased.
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I think it's interesting because this conversation points out that Maya did some fucked up shit to get Akira away from Noriko (actually from Niki and Sekai), and that she was more or less in the same position as Ami in being a child trying to care for a broken adult. She tried to get him to move past them, but he was unable to, so they became these sources of fear for Maya (that she could do nothing about, but avoid).

Overall both of them want him to be healthy, but also not so healthy that he doesn't need them anymore - probably because if that day ever came to pass, then both Ami and Maya would also have to grow, and deal with the fact that Akira may simply not want to engage with them in a romantic manner (he could, but the possibility has got to be really scary for two people that have no one else in the world).
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Change the name "Maya" for HOPE and the name "Noriko" for WIRES
 
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The mentioning of a Harem Tierlist, had me interested. Here's my take on most of the characters when it comes to relationships, in Chapter 4:
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Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.
 
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Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.
 
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Kitty Hawk said:
Isn't Kirin too high in your tier list? Iirc she confessed to Sensei she was secretly jealous of him being with others and would ran away with him if he offered.
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It's less Kirin being jealous of others and more her disliking Sensei choosing others over her, because she's not enough.

Kirin also tends to want multiple partners for herself, as well as Sensei, and she's usually molesting/crushing on Noriko in the background, flirting with Imani, and thinking about fucking Karin when she's not masturbating to her nudes, etc.

For example, after her "not enough" stuff, Kirin blackmailed Sensei and Touka to kiss at Halloween, and in her recent pic (right before Halloween) she tries to trade Karin nudes for a video of Sensei fucking another girl:
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Basically Kirin is Pro Harem, but also wants to be "enough" by herself...which is as paradoxical as it sounds.
 
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Made it to Lavender's Green, get ready to yet another compilation of forgotten details from that accursed Molly event (technically a main event).

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After rewatching this with context, it's my current impression that Akira was being controlled by either Pareidolia or Sekai to seek Molly. Then it's most likely that Pareidolia was the one that initiated their interaction. Then there was a conflict between forces that either disagreed to which extent he had to be traumatized (actually raping Molly or jerking off on her), or between a leading force and a defending force that was unable to act until that moment. This conflict led to a blue screen. When he came back, the force that wanted to minimize damage had won and he only jerked off on her with clothes intact. Then there may also have been a conflict on how he should proceed, but there was definitely at least one force that was there to chastise him for it (which probably was not Pareidolia since I don't see why he'd do it).

An added note is that these hands on his shoulders are constantly leading him to Yumi, and Akira points out that this whole event reminds him of that - although I don't have enough data on hand to make something out of this yet.
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Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.
 
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Don't know which event that Tsuneyo sentence comes from but if it's anywhere close to a Kaori related event, or even if not but more likely, that might be a literal hint about Kaori and that she might be posessed by a Sekai, because of a transplant.
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It's from Gallow's Edge, which is the event that follows Lavender's Green. But I mean, could be, who knows.
 
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Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:
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And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:
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So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
 
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Speaking of Kirin and Lavender's Green, she's likely still convinced that Sensei raped Molly back then:
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And Kirin wants to go down on a white girl:
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So, I wonder how future Kirin and Molly events are going to be, after the recent Molly events and Meet & Fuck. Haruka may not have worked out, but a Kirin Molly Threesome(?) has been foreshadowed for quite awhile.
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Molly has a lot of self-esteem issues, so I guess it could go either way. Maybe she embraces perversion only in the safety of Akira's solo embrace or go full pervert.

I'd also like to use this opportunity to talk a bit about Molly (that I forgot to mention on my post on Lavender's Green).
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My point is, of all the characters, Molly is probably one of the few that would be able to accept, understand and move over from what Akira did, even if it was worse than it was. So, yeah, Akira probably overcomplicated something that could have been resolved very easily.
 
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