Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[somepersonoutofnowhere]

Update is a banger, that's all I have to say.

I can confirm the 2 users here werent even the fastest There was one faster and they even got us the full game thankfully.

That is crazy man, this might be their setup at that point.

Spoiler: flashbang warning

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Hey anyone have a link for v0.44 to v0. 45 update only i forgot to download it because bussy IRL and didn't notice its already v0.46 thanls if anyone can provide it

The post below me replied to two file leaks, mega and gofile.

Is that a new record?

 

[Bob69]

Hey anyone have a link for v0.44 to v0. 45 update only i forgot to download it because bussy IRL and didn't notice its already v0.46 thanls if anyone can provide it

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[VoidExile]

No obvious images in the patch look like happy event levels of fucked up Bingo is probably right.


I have no idea how you lot handle this, unless you're saving in between every event. I like the game but not THAT much.


I've had a bad night so I'm not putting in the normal effort I'd normally do. When Sel started making the game, he posted it here where it got a TON of exposure (and people pledging) to the point it's probably still the largest source of income the game has to this date. It's never gone viral elsewhere (to the point that a reaction image from the game went 300k retweets viral on twitter a month ago and we were wondering if something interesting would actually happen due to it)

During these days he was an active poster and was generally pleasant and helpful, like Moonflare today would be. But once he started making better than 'real job' money from it he started getting more hostile about content leaking here. After he made care packages and they started leaking here he tried getting the game removed from the site by highlighting how Chika was 16 years old, and trying to get the game banned from the site using site rules, inciting hate raids from the discord of his dicksuckers to mass report the game for it. I think this is a link to this thread when this was happening. There's a statement by Sel where he defends why he spent weeks attacking the site instead of making the game and a lot of long posts pointing out the hypocrisy

iirc this merely got his f95zone account banned. Then at some point he outsourced some save deleting DRM which would wipe every LiL save from your computer if it detected a care package was installed. The DRM being hidden in gui.rpy and a random image from the dorms (imagine savedeleter.exe renamed into a jpg but it also displayed a usable image.) Apparently that one got the game shadowbanned from the site (Which is why it doesn't appear on the update queue. The only new people who show up in this thread basically lurked long enough to be recommended the game from other people, or in my case very specific tags and arranging by game score). This probably stopped any new income coming in from f95zone's audience so good job mr dev I hope you're happy.

I wondered what that drm thing was. Is it still being uploaded on the site and should you be using the disable drm patch? And yeah, I found that Chika thing. Think that's part of the reason why I said he was talking badly about the mods. Honestly this whole thing just sounds like massive greed alert. I mean that's obvious, he got most of the success from here after all. Not sure what else to say about the situation but it is what it is.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

So are those >3000 love events supposed to be just Easter Eggs or actual canon events for people who data mine (i.e. check URM or code)?
I haven't checked those out yet, but without having spoiled myself too much, at least this one seems rather insightful, I suppose?

Because if they are actually relevant to the plot, I'd find it a bit annoying to hide it behind something that you would only find out by tinkering in the code and also only realistically achievable by cheating.

I don't fucking know.

I have been worried about this all the time, I want to make sure there is always a true save to fall back to, but I have no idea if Ayane's easter egg flags are a trap or meant to be achieved. I don't know if Selebus is trying to create pre-update flags that can detect if you checked a box before implementing something new and punish you for using DRM or tinkering with the game's files directly. This would in theory, have been Sensei-Quest's job, but I find it much easier to fix this than having seen an easter egg.

 

[lolzmandude]

this is going to taunt me forever but I do not regret my decision. she fully and truly did not want what she asked. I don't think I'll ever go back even if I keep the save. fuck whatever potential "true" "green" ending. I'm not putting her through that. how could I go back when she was shocked by having it be turned down. this game has been getting me trapped in my own head but being faced with that choice shook me free... partly. I can't stop thinking about it but that's probably the point. It made a statement, loud and clear. and that event will stick with me for a long ass time probably.

 

[SlidingSubject]

I don't fucking know.

I have been worried about this all the time, I want to make sure there is always a true save to fall back to, but I have no idea if Ayane's easter egg flags are a trap or meant to be achieved. I don't know if Selebus is trying to create pre-update flags that can detect if you checked a box before implementing something new and punish you for using DRM or tinkering with the game's files directly. This would in theory, have been Sensei-Quest's job, but I find it much easier to fix this than having seen an easter egg.

From what little I've seen, none of the hidden Himawari events set any flags. At least not as it is now.

 

[aramaug]

Spoiler: 0.46 hidden Himawari scene

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[flacc2pit]

Which events have the ayane Easter eggs, and what are their requirements? Been following game for a year and a half now, and this is the update that pushed me towards the green path.

When it isn't heavy handed, I enjoy how the various narrators can be interpreted as referring to the reader as well as the characters. I think that in this update's Imani vouyer scene most of the narration is targeted towards the reader as much as Tsukasa. Sel's ability to obfuscate the intent of the author is a huge chunk of the appeal of this game, especially in recent updates where he's seemingly shown some of that intent, or maybe what little narrative security we've been given is just fuel for further confusion.

 

[VoidExile]

Day 20 character count 7498.

Spoiler: Day 311-328, some reactions, thoughts and questions

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Spoiler: Tierlist

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[fdsasdf_p]

Which is doubly strange because the importance of the scarf stems from the "first time you told me you love me" story.

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This happened before the resets, so New Maya should remember it, but clearly doesn't even though she says that she vividly remembers her past with Akira. So the importance of the scarf has been erased from her memory, just like it was for Ayane and Sensei (who didn't recognize it as Maya's scarf after the reset).

This part confuses me too. I have to intentionally dance around her words and arrive to a very stretched conclusion that this green scarf was maybe something Maya already owned before she met Akira. From the looks of it, it was Akira that gifted the scarf a special meaning (or a new meaning?) after they met and fell in love, but since the item had a history that went earlier than tutor time, all memories related to the scarf got purged. I personally don't like to interpret things like this, feeling like overexploiting words.

Or, maybe the importance of the scarf to Maya has been erased from everyone's mind due to reason unknown and by entity unknown, and that's an additional ruling on top of New Maya only remembering the time after she met Akira (at first I thought as least Sensei remembered, hence asking Ayane the scarf question right after reset7. But upon revisiting that event and judging from the lack of reaction, I have to agree with you that Sensei also didn't remember)

Edit: though my take on the "nostalgic scent" is different. I thought it simply means that Ayane, Himawari's mom, was wearing it just seconds ago and that was the sole reason why Himawari had a fleeting thought of keeping the scarf for herself.

Which events have the ayane Easter eggs, and what are their requirements? Been following game for a year and a half now, and this is the update that pushed me towards the green path.

This update: last main event; need 3k Ayane love points.

Edit:
Before this update:
Scientific Research - 2k needed
Miserably Ever After - 3k needed

 

[flacc2pit]

This update: last main event; need 3k Ayane love points.

Was speaking to all of them, as understand this update's is one of a short series of hidden events.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

From what little I've seen, none of the hidden Himawari events set any flags. At least not as it is now.

Exactly, not as it is now.

All it takes is for the game to be coded in such a way that getting into ayane's Easter egg is considered a "chain" without triggering any actual flags and you have a completely different reality in your hands.

Worst case scenario, I change the program

 

[FireCazador]

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this is going to taunt me forever but I do not regret my decision. she fully and truly did not want what she asked. I don't think I'll ever go back even if I keep the save. fuck whatever potential "true" "green" ending. I'm not putting her through that. how could I go back when she was shocked by having it be turned down. this game has been getting me trapped in my own head but being faced with that choice shook me free... partly. I can't stop thinking about it but that's probably the point. It made a statement, loud and clear. and that event will stick with me for a long ass time probably.

Spoiler: Yes

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Spoiler: 0.46 hidden Himawari scene

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I havent played the update yet but im kinda hating Himawari xdd

 

[Deleted member 4389531]

Spoiler: 0.46

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[LessonsInDissonance]

Spoiler: 0.46

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Ayane is real though, and she's the one meant to be

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Spoiler: Minor nitpicking about continuity

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[elricsecret]

after playing MiSide Ami is scaring the shit out of me.

 

[shmurfer]

I wondered what that drm thing was. Is it still being uploaded on the site and should you be using the disable drm patch? And yeah, I found that Chika thing. Think that's part of the reason why I said he was talking badly about the mods. Honestly this whole thing just sounds like massive greed alert. I mean that's obvious, he got most of the success from here after all. Not sure what else to say about the situation but it is what it is.

You only need the DRM patch if you want to load care packages that you have not paid for into the game, and we'd recommend against doing this anyway cause you'd need to reapply it every update, and nothing's stopping Sel from adding a new piece of DRM to do the same thing. Safest way is to download the care packages and read the scripts in notepad or something, and then look at the images.

Though I think before the end of this game I'll probably buy the care packages legit. My save is kind of becoming a 100% Run and those would be a part of it (though if I put them in now I'd break compatibility if I wanted to share it)

No, the horror tag is perfectly justified now. Fuck that.

I'd agree. When I was trying to get you to start the game I only argued against jumpscares in the style of the old precision mouse game where you'd put your mouse through a thin corridor and then the exorcist appears and screams at you. There's none of that, but the static blips can absolutely startle you I guess. Those kinds of things are just white noise to me.

Was speaking to all of them, as understand this update's is one of a short series of hidden events.

AKAIK that list is correct. It's just harder to arrange since most people ask about all events Himawari appears which is both more than that list, but also she doesn't appear in Miserably Ever After

I don't fucking know.

I have been worried about this all the time, I want to make sure there is always a true save to fall back to, but I have no idea if Ayane's easter egg flags are a trap or meant to be achieved. I don't know if Selebus is trying to create pre-update flags that can detect if you checked a box before implementing something new and punish you for using DRM or tinkering with the game's files directly. This would in theory, have been Sensei-Quest's job, but I find it much easier to fix this than having seen an easter egg.

What do you consider a true save? Does the presence of the guide mod screw it up (since once you start using guide mod you can't stop)

I can share some variant of Ayane love grinding at the point where it becomes important whether we have it or not. Right now it's just speculation, and I feel like acting too early can poison the results.

Exactly, not as it is now.

All it takes is for the game to be coded in such a way that getting into ayane's Easter egg is considered a "chain" without triggering any actual flags and you have a completely different reality in your hands.

Worst case scenario, I change the program

As a programmer, he already has what he needs to do this. He's already used the technique several times in the game.

Spoiler: NERD SHIT

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All he'd have to do is use the same technique he's already using to show you this event. I don't think the first two 'events' had anything important but he could check for 2000 love before the 3000 if there was something important. Considering the lack of important dialogue in the himawari ramen event, he could just treat it as people watched it the first time and let it fly over people's heads if they didn't. As for this latest event, he can check for both >= 3000 Ayane love AND Mayablock = false. And there's nothing stopping him from hiding that check in the next update to the game in some random file as soon as 0.47 starts and then he doesn't need to maintain Mayablock. Though considering the plot, it's unlikely for Mayablock to be naturally removed any time soon so he could just let it ride (or just set it before naturally unsetting it, it'd be a smoking gun but we're already looking for them anyway)

Hard decisions make strong Senseis. Strong Senseis must have a strong will. I must have hurt Io but i know that somehow this will make her better (coping as hard as i can to have an excuse to keep going the green path)

Don't forget Hard Sensei's make Strong Decisions.

 

[SilentSword15]

I had to use urm to get the molly scene

 

[CheleDeCedul]

Seems like Sel did TWO oopsie woopsie this update.
EDIT: Scratch that, it's three.

Spoiler: 0.46

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The mayablock being lifted only by the "hidden" scene reeks of a coding mistake, because the code is almost the same in both routes:

Spoiler: Code

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Besides, and this is no coding error but lazyness, with mayablock lifted you can go to Maya's dorm generics, but the text is the fucking same as before:

Spoiler: Maya dorm text

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OR PERHAPS Selebus didn't change the dorm text because the mayablock was supposed to stay active, and only deactivated as an easter egg for URM users or code scavengers? Who fucking knows.