Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.48.0] [Selebus]

[Sprungler]

If you had to guess, who do you think Sensei would most likely like to have a child with most likely?
And on a secondary note, who do you think he would accept an exclusive relationship with the most?

 

[thebadpastor]

If you exclude the obvious choice of Niki I suppose it'd have to be Ayane, right?

Or Ami at peak Sensei degeneracy, she would raise their daughters as cocksleeves.

 

[Sprungler]

If you exclude the obvious choice of Niki I suppose it'd have to be Ayane, right?

Or Ami at peak Sensei degeneracy, she would raise their daughters as cocksleeves.

You don't think he'd choose the old Maya?

 

[thebadpastor]

Ah, I wasn't counting her since she's gone.

Although I can't imagine any incarnation of Maya ever wanting children anyway to be honest lol

 

[Sprungler]

Ah, I wasn't counting her since she's gone.

Although I can't imagine any incarnation of Maya ever wanting children anyway to be honest lol

The hexadecimal one.
She seems like Maya before all of the loop shite happened.

The new Maye is no Maya at all...
I petition we renamed her to Mayo

 

[Sprungler]

I personally don't have anything against Tsukasa. Some people just don't like her for her bratiness and for the same reason is why people "like" her.

I don't know how far into the game you are, but Chika fucked a lot of people's 100% saves. They were more outraged at Chika for ruining their save than what Nodoka did Yumi. That along with Chika's rapid Yandere descent is why Chika isn't well beloved anymore. I personally still like Chika, it just sucks to see such a beloved character's fall from grace.

Tsuneyo gets more interesting the deeper you get into the game and she's fucking hilarious.

I'm not going to get into Ami because this post would be longer than the bible. And you are spot on with Tsubasa.

Yeah, Futaba takes the crown for most boring character. It used to be Karin, but after something happens to her and she call Sensei out on his bullshit, you actually get invested in her.

 

[AzureVolt]

Been watching a playthrough of the new chapter of coffin of andy and leyley and I got to say; there has to be something wrong with me because I keep enjoying playing/watching fucked up scenarios with really well developed characters, lessons in love and coffin of andy and leyley being extreme examples.

Like "oh shit this is completely and utterly fucked....., I want to see more", there's gotta be a name for these types of situations. It's has to be weird that I'm so invested in watching broken people hurt and break the world around them and how they dig a bigger hole for themselves

 

[Sprungler]

Been watching a playthrough of the new chapter of coffin of andy and leyley and I got to say; there has to be something wrong with me because I keep enjoying playing/watching fucked up scenarios with really well developed characters, lessons in love and coffin of andy and leyley being extreme examples.

Like "oh shit this is completely and utterly fucked....., I want to see more", there's gotta be a name for these types of situations. It's has to be weird that I'm so invested in watching broken people hurt and break the world around them and how they dig a bigger hole for themselves

CoLaA does not contain any hentai.
Massive loss.

 

[Sprungler]

Like "oh shit this is completely and utterly fucked....., I want to see more", there's gotta be a name for these types of situations. It's has to be weird that I'm so invested in watching broken people hurt and break the world around them and how they dig a bigger hole for themselves

Schadenfreude?

 

[AzureVolt]

Schadenfreude?

that and more, and its ramping up

CoLaA does not contain any hentai.
Massive loss.

Completely fine with it, I'm just there to read what happens tbh.

 

[Sprungler]

that and more, and its ramping up

Check out Red Room, shows what happens if dev tries a bit too hard on "shock" value.

 

[Reiyayru]

I feel like you may be projecting. If that's the impression you got from the thread, let me reiterate for the friends I can safely represent on this matter that we couldn't care less. Obviously that doesn't account for everyone here, but surely for the larger (and saner) part.

Selebus is pretty adamant on "make of this game what you will", and it will not be some random group of people on a thread he doesn't even like that will try to tell you otherwise. Anyone can play however they want. More power to them.

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It is unfortunate that so many people felt attacked as if we were telling that they were wrong in playing however they want. That was not our intention. Hopefully, we can move on from this with the mutual understanding that saying that the green path is the truer story doesn't equate to saying that one is wrong by choosing to miss events.

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[LoveRedHairedGirl]

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It was all pretty nice until the last picture. I laughed so fucking hard.

 

[BlackDays]

I wouldn't judge anyone of either group.
I think the decision in Stomachache is a very individual one.

I'm a completionist and also like to theorize, so i had to go with the green path because it's very likely that the green path contains the most lore info. In a perfect world i would have chosen the other option though.

That being said, there's one thing that i don't completely get.
And that's how some people pretend to shrug things like that off and say "Thats just pixels, how can you xyz...", and at the same time post something like their fav char tier lists.
With Sel being the most hypocritical, in a way, of all, with him saying the exact same about wizard contend.
Does he want us to be invested in the story and characters or not?

In the end it's about one's own individual decisions and individual moral concept i think, unless one managed to be completely detached of it all ofc.
I also don't think there's anything bad in warning people about the technicalities, that one might miss "plot" in the red path, in an informative way.

 

[Budoop]

Seeing lots of Tsubasa hate. I understand, but when she took the phone and said she was calling the police and then later when she delivered some just punishment to the tune of my new favorite Christmas song .

I have never before found much enjoyment or depth in stories with "mommy" characters. Always been more of a fan of the cassic dominant male submissive female themes.

Sekai and Tsubasa have opened my eyes. They may be wrong, but dang, I sure do feel things.

I don't get the Tsubasa hate (Im into mommy types).
Cant help but feel like she's gonna royally fuck over Sensei at some point for her "plans" though.
Archetype or not I'd be steering very clear of her if I was Sensei.

If you had to guess, who do you think Sensei would most likely like to have a child with most likely?
And on a secondary note, who do you think he would accept an exclusive relationship with the most?

Maya > Niki > Ayane / Sana > Literally everyone else.
(On the idea that OG Maya returns, otherwise she's off the list)

 

[Bingoogus]

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If it does anything extra to separate us in your mind, please know i have LID on ignore, can't stand their edgy teenager persona and i am firmly in your camp in taking issue with them calling you pussies. Also, yes, my post was talking about how there will be negative consequences for red pathing Io, i didn't mean to imply Selly was going to vindictively hunt you down for punishment, just that his attitude to 'wrong'-pathing his game usually contains punishing consequences. I have no problem with you disagreeing with my take otherwise, you're fair and right to do so, i can't truly know what the redpath will look like, i'm just going off of a pile of previous examples and reference materials as a best guess.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

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I understand that not everyone has the same attachment to this game, but I feel like if you willingly choose to not do the green route, you are one of many things.
It is in my interest that these characters get their happy ending whether they are real or not, and this is something that you can only do if you're playing the green route.

I agree with Selebus' stance on making near impossible reset puzzles, it assures that only those who are truly invested in the game, will go out of their way to bypass these checkpoints. What I don't agree with is the draconian measures and punishments delivered to people that want to seek help. 99% of you here watched a guide and so what? you are not any less in love with the game than those that haven't cheated.

My bepuzzlement comes from the fact that after so many years, there's people that would willingly not do green path. It comes from a place where I assume that you are fully aware of how things work in this game, after so many years it would be impossible at this point not to understand that you are sentencing all the people in this game to their doom if you don't follow the green path, and you're doing this because you're either weak, ignorant or heartless.
Because you were weak, you couldn't bring yourself to do stomachache, or you were ignorant not to know that it would be best to see it in the long run, or, you are fully aware of what will happen and still sentence this world to collapse regardless.

It's not your fault if you can't remember every detail or forget things, it's not your fault if you don't know how to do something, it's not your fault if you're not perfect. It is however, a fault in you if you can't be bothered to try.

 

[SmallsMalone]

I understand that not everyone has the same attachment to this game, but I feel like if you willingly choose to not do the green route, you are one of many things.
It is in my interest that these characters get their happy ending whether they are real or not, and this is something that you can only do if you're playing the green route.

I agree with Selebus' stance on making near impossible reset puzzles, it assures that only those who are truly invested in the game, will go out of their way to bypass these checkpoints. What I don't agree with is the draconian measures and punishments delivered to people that want to seek help. 99% of you here watched a guide and so what? you are not any less in love with the game than those that haven't cheated.

My bepuzzlement comes from the fact that after so many years, there's people that would willingly not do green path. It comes from a place where I assume that you are fully aware of how things work in this game, after so many years it would be impossible at this point not to understand that you are sentencing all the people in this game to their doom if you don't follow the green path, and you're doing this because you're either weak, ignorant or heartless.
Because you were weak, you couldn't bring yourself to do stomachache, or you were ignorant not to know that it would be best to see it in the long run, or, you are fully aware of what will happen and still sentence this world to collapse regardless.

It's not your fault if you can't remember every detail or forget things, it's not your fault if you don't know how to do something, it's not your fault if you're not perfect. It is however, a fault in you if you can't be bothered to try.

And here we see the zealotry of the netizen in its native habitat. Surrounded by the familiar haze of their computer screen, the netizen looks for wrongdoers infiltrating their digital territory and flares it's languid crest to mark it's claim. The netizen has no legitimate claim to this territory, but they cannot resist the urge to protect whatever dark corner of the digital world they nest in.

For all their bluster, the netizen is a toothless creature. Prone to outburst, but harmless all the same. If you find yourself the target of their impotent display, smile and nod. They're simply trying to express their love of their home the only way they know.

Edit: To clarify my position here, the emotions on display are understandable but you have no authority over the characters in other peoples games. Each instance is it's own universe shaped by the perspective of the reader breathing life into the screen, one click at a time.

Disagree, of course. Debate, probably intended.

Possession of another's experience? None of us have that right.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

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I hereby grant you a 1-week free pass that allows you to walk on red paths without anyone saying shit to you. After a week it’s 4.99/month.

*does not include bad homie route. If you do, castration don’t.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

And here we see the zealotry of the netizen in its native habitat. Surrounded by the familiar haze of their computer screen, the netizen looks for wrongdoers infiltrating their digital territory and flares it's languid crest to mark it's claim. The netizen has no legitimate claim to this territory, but they cannot resist the urge to protect whatever dark corner of the digital world they nest in.

For all their bluster, the netizen is a toothless creature. Prone to outburst, but harmless all the same. If you find yourself the target of their impotent display, smile and nod. They're simply trying to express their love of their home the only way they know.

Behold, the majestic internet troll emerges from its shadowy lair. Cloaked in a veil of witty jokes, it prowls the digital savannah, seeking prey to shower with its razor-sharp condescension. This noble beast stakes no claim but thrives on the chaos it sows, its crest of irony raised high to signal its dominion over the art of smug retort.
Yet, for all its swagger, the troll’s bite is but a whisper, a fleeting gust of hot air in the vast expanse of cyberspace. Should you cross its path, offer a knowing wink and a tip of the hat. It’s merely serenading us with its peculiar brand of affection, gawking in the only tongue it knows.
No need to take offense from our friend here, diminutive in height as he’s let slip before, seems driven to puff himself up online, flashing his supposed wit to dazzle us. Alas, in that area too, he’s found wanting.