alex2011

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Oh no, I haven't let my guard down. I assume this is something like the calm before the storm, but I do feel better about this one since (atleast, I'm hoping) we might get more plot moving forward, which automagically puts me in a good mood about this arc.
Ah, that's what you meant, misinterpretation. I definitely see signs this is the calm before the storm, bad things are starting to happen with less time between them.

I just finished game and it was best VN i ever played. my favorite girls are Makoto Io Yumi Futaba Yuki and Maya(best girl). character i dont like are nodoka rin otoha kirin uta tsuneyo noriko . i always prefer characters over than story or gameplay so im really happy to find characters i love XD .i started this game just for sex.i started without reading anything i just downloaded and played without knowing anyting then the story was so enjoyable that I even stopped playing Sword of legends online. in fact im addicted to play good Mmorpgs. Edit: my country doesnt have paypal there is no other way than paypal to buy membership ?
I think we all started out playing for the sex, to be honest. I started at the very first release, when the game had not proven itself in its story, but it only took seven builds to win me over to playing for the story.
 
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I think we all started out playing for the sex, to be honest. I started at the very first release, when the game had not proven itself in its story, but it only took seven builds to win me over to playing for the story.
but I was downloading solo and I chose a random VN because I was excited and cant wait to play solo i wanted to kill time with a VN. and as a result i bought solo 7 8 days ago and I started playing the solo only now.this game was that good xD Im in love with yumi and Maya. i love their cute moments
 
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Hey I have version 0.20 part 2 so do I just download the update only and overwrite files or do I have to download the full thing?
The version here is just the full version, I believe.

Patrons have access to an update-only download through Patreon, but it hasn't been posted here yet.
 

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Hey I have version 0.20 part 2 so do I just download the update only and overwrite files or do I have to download the full thing?
If you are referring to the "part" thing, that's just Selebus splitting a single monthly download into two biweekly downloads. Every 1st and 15th of the month gets an update instead of only one day a month unless there is something huge going into an update that is better served in one large update or Selebus has something happen to make him miss out on a release.

You only ever need whichever part is available, you don't need both part 1 and part 2 to play as everything ever released for the game is in every release.

The version here is just the full version, I believe.

Patrons have access to an update-only download through Patreon, but it hasn't been posted here yet.
For some reason, I once again feel like I've been missing out on something because of my lack of attention to patron perks. I never knew there was an update only download. This is getting to be like the request sharing channel on Discord all over again, where I didn't know because I hadn't asked for access since I didn't want to take away any time for Selebus to grant it manually due to being a SubscribeStar subscriber and not a Patreon patron. That's one of the advantages of Patreon, it is already set up to interact with things like Discord automatically whereas SubscribeStar can't yet do that.
 

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It wasn't significant to you, but a lot of us did have significantly better speed on NOPY than anywhere else that didn't have some sort of other limit like MEGA's data limits.
As I said: NoPy had an awful transfer rate for me, and not only me but also for several people I seen on this forum too, wasn't able to resume downloads properly by itself (very annoying with a huge download through browser's download and a low speed), and Mega's data limit was and still is a joke to bypass...

But I don't force you - or anybody - to use Mega. You can still go for AnonFiles (yeah, sarcasm is strong here, I know...) or wait for someone's else resources to seed a torrent. As I said also, I'll still use Mega, and I'll get the games before all people who refuse to use it properly - i.e. without the client. Most devs (to not say near all...) provide a Mega link for any significantly heavy file: only some small mods are provided without a Mega link, AFAIK. I gave the bypass method, then if people use it (or not!) it won't change neither my life nor my bank balance...
 

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As I said: NoPy had an awful transfer rate for me, and not only me but also for several people I seen on this forum too, wasn't able to resume downloads properly by itself (very annoying with a huge download through browser's download and a low speed), and Mega's data limit was and still is a joke to bypass...

But I don't force you - or anybody - to use Mega. You can still go for AnonFiles (yeah, sarcasm is strong here, I know...) or wait for someone's else resources to seed a torrent. As I said also, I'll still use Mega, and I'll get the games before all people who refuse to use it properly - i.e. without the client. Most devs (to not say near all...) provide a Mega link for any significantly heavy file: only some small mods are provided without a Mega link, AFAIK. I gave the bypass method, then if people use it (or not!) it won't change neither my life nor my bank balance...
That's not a NOPY problem, that's a user problem. Not that you or anyone else having problems were doing anything wrong, just that there were issues and it sounds like the connection just wasn't completely stable and at top quality at the time, which is a possible issue on literally any site or torrent. There is that pesky issue on Drive with the download getting locked down entirely if the link gets overused, but that isn't nearly as bad as waiting several hours for MEGA to reset my quota.
 

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That's not a NOPY problem, that's a user problem. Not that you or anyone else having problems were doing anything wrong, just that there were issues and it sounds like the connection just wasn't completely stable and at top quality at the time, which is a possible issue on literally any site or torrent. There is that pesky issue on Drive with the download getting locked down entirely if the link gets overused, but that isn't nearly as bad as waiting several hours for MEGA to reset my quota.
That was however a NoPy problem... My connection is out of any possible flaw, including when downloading across oceans: I have correct speed everywhere, BUT with some companies/providers - like NoPy. I'm not living in a technologically underdevelopped country or town, I have a fully wired gigabit network at home (shielded), a gigabit optical fiber landline, and absolutely NO jitter in my connection. The bottleneck was at NoPy's level.

Don't know why NoPy was so shitty, and don't want to know why either since it's now fully irrelevant. The connection WAS stable, but slow, and across hours of downloads the (in)famous 10^-9 probability of an unrecoverable transmission error was raising up to become a near certitude - the worst being AnonFiles, without any close challenger in unreliability.

I avoid using any Google service as much as possible, so I don't see what this problem is - I'm bothered enough when I see that a 200 MB file cannot be processed properly by Drive, so I won't use it but when forced to do so.

And - again - breaking the quota limit for Mega is child's play. Which is quite ironic when it's about downloading adult games, IMHO, but I can admit that I have a pretty peculiar sense of humor. And when I say "breaking", that's a complete understatement... So I don't understand why you get this in the discussion one more time, but if you stubbornely stick to a browser download, of course.
 

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That was however a NoPy problem... My connection is out of any possible flaw, including when downloading across oceans: I have correct speed everywhere, BUT with some companies/providers - like NoPy. I'm not living in a technologically underdevelopped country or town, I have a fully wired gigabit network at home (shielded), a gigabit optical fiber landline, and absolutely NO jitter in my connection. The bottleneck was at NoPy's level.

Don't know why NoPy was so shitty, and don't want to know why either since it's now fully irrelevant. The connection WAS stable, but slow, and across hours of downloads the (in)famous 10^-9 probability of an unrecoverable transmission error was raising up to become a near certitude - the worst being AnonFiles, without any close challenger in unreliability.

I avoid using any Google service as much as possible, so I don't see what this problem is - I'm bothered enough when I see that a 200 MB file cannot be processed properly by Drive, so I won't use it but when forced to do so.

And - again - breaking the quota limit for Mega is child's play. Which is quite ironic when it's about downloading adult games, IMHO, but I can admit that I have a pretty peculiar sense of humor. And when I say "breaking", that's a complete understatement... So I don't understand why you get this in the discussion one more time, but if you stubbornely stick to a browser download, of course.
You can't know that for sure because it could be any point in the connection, of which there are multiple, some of which are not readily accessible to someone who is only using the site. In fact, it is specifically because NOPY seems to be your only problem site that I am suggesting there was an issue while you actively had a NOPY download going. If it had been NOPY's problem, there would be nobody having good speeds, but I never had a problem with them and they were my go to site on here for anything over the MEGA free limit and often my first choice even when I could fit the download into a single MEGA download.

I didn't say there was a problem with Drive, that's just my new go to site now that NOPY is dead since it has roughly the same performance with only an issue where they will block off a download for everyone for 24 hours if it gets enough traffic. I've processed plenty more than 200MB files on Drive, so again, not sure the problem there.

As for breaking the transfer quota, you do realize that MEGA is a website accessed by browser, right? You also realize that the transfer quota is not negated by using their sync program, right? It really doesn't matter how you do it, you have to access it through a browser and you have to have an account, which means you get the quota because that transfer quota is enforced against accounts, not IPs, making the quota stick to you unless you go against their terms and make a second account, which can get you banned.

As for why I get in the discussion 'again,' that's becuase it was never finished as far as I know. I keep getting replied to, so that tells me the discussion has never ended and I therefore respond.
 

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tbh as a makoto fan and general bad-end/sadness-disliker, I'm feeling more 'up' about the story now than I was about the story as it was going during the first-ish reset. I mean, besides something insane happening like Maya resetting or this version of sensei losing all of his memories I feel more secure this time around despite sensei's memories and general situation becoming more and more unhinged... knowing that we can at least confide in Maya now and she doesn't actually absolutely hate us, something about this arc just feels less shit than the first reset did. If anything, I feel like sensei is more prepared this time around. Does anybody feel similar? Something just feels different.
Despite certain events still showcasing his asshole-iness, there have been more instances of Sensei actually giving a damn about the girls and the things they are going through and has mentioned a couple of times that situations that would normally arouse him aren't as enticing due the circumstances surrounding them.

Whether this means Sensei is growing something of a conscience or not I can't say, but he's definitely not the same person he was previously. Not only that, but several of the girls have showcased the fact they are overcoming their issues and insecurities. I wouldn't go so far as to say things are getting better, but things certainly seem a little less broken sometimes now. But if there's one thing you can trust in this game, it's that the house of cards that is happiness can collapse from a single unlucky breath.
 
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tbh as a makoto fan and general bad-end/sadness-disliker, I'm feeling more 'up' about the story now than I was about the story as it was going during the first-ish reset. I mean, besides something insane happening like Maya resetting or this version of sensei losing all of his memories I feel more secure this time around despite sensei's memories and general situation becoming more and more unhinged... knowing that we can at least confide in Maya now and she doesn't actually absolutely hate us, something about this arc just feels less shit than the first reset did. If anything, I feel like sensei is more prepared this time around. Does anybody feel similar? Something just feels different.
maya resetting ? which event ? i was very sleepy in last events so i might missing that or forgot .she lost her memories about last maya events ?
 

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You can't know that for sure because it could be any point in the connection, of which there are multiple, some of which are not readily accessible to someone who is only using the site. In fact, it is specifically because NOPY seems to be your only problem site that I am suggesting there was an issue while you actively had a NOPY download going. If it had been NOPY's problem, there would be nobody having good speeds, but I never had a problem with them and they were my go to site on here for anything over the MEGA free limit and often my first choice even when I could fit the download into a single MEGA download.
The answer is "shitty content delivery network (CDN) and/or shitty load-balancing algorithm and/or shitty cache/reverse proxy".
And Occam's razor.

If ONE service is bad, while ALL others are fine all around the world, then this ONE server is the culprit. Period. All things considered, AnonFiles is "correct": the bandwidth limit is consistent, simply I'm not satisfied with it and it's unusable for very big files. NoPy was a rollercoaster with a way too low maximum - unconsistent, therefore not suitable for my needs.
Maybe it was sending the connection through a shitty path, but it was THEIR responsability to correctly route the transfer to a reliable node-chain and not use the cheapest one. Same difference between flying with a normal airline company and a charter with last minute tickets: the first is a direct link with free food and drink, the second takes you through Mexico City to go from New York to Washington (with six hour stopover) and a bottle of warm water is sold 10$ on board.
Maybe their cache handling on local nodes was shitty.
Maybe it was linked to time zone/local time when downloading.
Anyway, I don't care: every other CDN/clouds I use offers a proper load-balancing and decent speed. But NoPy, and obviously extremely cheap services like AnonFiles.

I didn't say there was a problem with Drive, that's just my new go to site now that NOPY is dead since it has roughly the same performance with only an issue where they will block off a download for everyone for 24 hours if it gets enough traffic. I've processed plenty more than 200MB files on Drive, so again, not sure the problem there.
I mean, for example, that Drive seems to be unable to process an AV scan on anything but VERY small files (200 MB seems already too much), and it's not very fast too - rarely above 30 MB/s... Also, I don't like Google, at all.

As for breaking the transfer quota, you do realize that MEGA is a website accessed by browser, right? You also realize that the transfer quota is not negated by using their sync program, right? It really doesn't matter how you do it, you have to access it through a browser and you have to have an account, which means you get the quota because that transfer quota is enforced against accounts, not IPs, making the quota stick to you unless you go against their terms and make a second account, which can get you banned.
False.
Mega is a cloud/host provider, with ALSO a web interface. Once synched through the client, you use it like any cloud-connected folder - the same way I use my Amazon, Autodesk, Microsoft, NordLocker or Apple clouds. You drop a file inside, it goes to the cloud, and when a file is dropped directly to the cloud, you'll get it on your disk after the time needed to transfer it.

Successfully got above ONE HUNDRED GB in a row from F95, several times, to ensures you that:
  • Quota limit, server-side, isn't account-based, but only IP-based, and it seems that it doesn't mind/check about proxies/VPN. That's stupid - I would be fired for such a huge mistake - but it's how it works anyway. I use only ONE FREE Mega account. I suspect that their business model is mostly based only on professional subscriptions, so they don't care a lot about individuals who get through limits... Others companies (Microsoft, Adobe and Autodesk mostly, but also Qt) rely on the same model and don't "chase" individuals for piracy because once they're used to the product, they push it where they work and then money flows...
  • Quota is "account-based" (in fact, "client instance-based"), client-side, ONLY if you forgot to CLOSE the client before switching your public IP address - otherwise, it do not "forgets" that the quota was reached. I mean close fully the client program, with right-click and "Exit" on the icon, not simply reducing it in tray bar. To be clear, it's like that the quota limit is enforced mostly on client-side and not on server-side...
  • You can choose to download through client instead of browser - the choice is given for EACH download. You can also import it in your cloud, but it isn't usually a wise thing to do but with huge folders with a LOT of files.
  • Client can enqueue downloads and resume them properly, even if closed.
  • Client is WAY faster than browser, since within browser, it downloads to RAM before saving - therefore, if you don't have a HUGE amount of free memory, a big download can fail while it never fails through client - if it does fail, it resumes automatically anyway. This "download memory" seems also to not be swappable (maybe a Firefox issue?), so if other programs don't swap themselves, you'll fail to download a big file once your RAM is full. Client download directly to disk.
  • I've set the client to use up to 6 simultaneous connections for the same file - my landline could handle that easily - without any limit and also without using HTTP. However, the download queue is processed one file at a time, you cannot use the multiple connections to get several files at the same time.
  • I'm here on F95 since mid-2019, I use Mega from the beginning, and I tricked its quota since few days after I start using it. I'm still not banned from Mega. I used their web interface maybe... four or five times? since I registered my Mega account: I rely only on the client. I used it mostly for initial settings, and to get the upscaled videos for "Treasure of Nadia" - that's "just" a 16 GB download, done with 4 tricks to get everything synched to my hard drive - done at 80 MB/s, and 10 minutes grand total because I didn't switched the VPN immediately after limit was reached, due to my other activities on the computer. Synchronization is usually even faster than "regular" downloads, if you have enough cloud space to store it (20 GB with free accounts). And I'm still not banned, BTW, despite I just did it moments ago...
See my post for details to bypass Mega's quota easily.

As for why I get in the discussion 'again,' that's becuase it was never finished as far as I know. I keep getting replied to, so that tells me the discussion has never ended and I therefore respond.
I was speaking about putting back the Mega's quota within the discussion, not replying in itself - on the contrary, I appreciate a reply, and not one the next semester, and it would be difficult to scare me with a wall of text... ;) But if you hadn't read my post, the one I linked just above, then it makes sense to speak about it again... As I said, breaking this limit is a pure joke.
 

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Despite certain events still showcasing his asshole-iness, there have been more instances of Sensei actually giving a damn about the girls and the things they are going through and has mentioned a couple of times that situations that would normally arouse him aren't as enticing due the circumstances surrounding them.

Whether this means Sensei is growing something of a conscience or not I can't say, but he's definitely not the same person he was previously. Not only that, but several of the girls have showcased the fact they are overcoming their issues and insecurities. I wouldn't go so far as to say things are getting better, but things certainly seem a little less broken sometimes now. But if there's one thing you can trust in this game, it's that the house of cards that is happiness can collapse from a single unlucky breath.
Indeed, all it takes is a minor breeze to bring a house of cards tumbling to the ground. One wrong move could prove disastrous.

The answer is "shitty content delivery network (CDN) and/or shitty load-balancing algorithm and/or shitty cache/reverse proxy".
And Occam's razor.

If ONE service is bad, while ALL others are fine all around the world, then this ONE server is the culprit. Period. All things considered, AnonFiles is "correct": the bandwidth limit is consistent, simply I'm not satisfied with it and it's unusable for very big files. NoPy was a rollercoaster with a way too low maximum - unconsistent, therefore not suitable for my needs.
Maybe it was sending the connection through a shitty path, but it was THEIR responsability to correctly route the transfer to a reliable node-chain and not use the cheapest one. Same difference between flying with a normal airline company and a charter with last minute tickets: the first is a direct link with free food and drink, the second takes you through Mexico City to go from New York to Washington (with six hour stopover) and a bottle of warm water is sold 10$ on board.
Maybe their cache handling on local nodes was shitty.
Maybe it was linked to time zone/local time when downloading.
Anyway, I don't care: every other CDN/clouds I use offers a proper load-balancing and decent speed. But NoPy, and obviously extremely cheap services like AnonFiles.

I mean, for example, that Drive seems to be unable to process an AV scan on anything but VERY small files (200 MB seems already too much), and it's not very fast too - rarely above 30 MB/s... Also, I don't like Google, at all.

False.
Mega is a cloud/host provider, with ALSO a web interface. Once synched through the client, you use it like any cloud-connected folder - the same way I use my Amazon, Autodesk, Microsoft, NordLocker or Apple clouds. You drop a file inside, it goes to the cloud, and when a file is dropped directly to the cloud, you'll get it on your disk after the time needed to transfer it.

Successfully got above ONE HUNDRED GB in a row from F95, several times, to ensures you that:
  • Quota limit, server-side, isn't account-based, but only IP-based, and it seems that it doesn't mind/check about proxies/VPN. That's stupid - I would be fired for such a huge mistake - but it's how it works anyway. I use only ONE FREE Mega account. I suspect that their business model is mostly based only on professional subscriptions, so they don't care a lot about individuals who get through limits... Others companies (Microsoft, Adobe and Autodesk mostly, but also Qt) rely on the same model and don't "chase" individuals for piracy because once they're used to the product, they push it where they work and then money flows...
  • Quota is "account-based" (in fact, "client instance-based"), client-side, ONLY if you forgot to CLOSE the client before switching your public IP address - otherwise, it do not "forgets" that the quota was reached. I mean close fully the client program, with right-click and "Exit" on the icon, not simply reducing it in tray bar. To be clear, it's like that the quota limit is enforced mostly on client-side and not on server-side...
  • You can choose to download through client instead of browser - the choice is given for EACH download. You can also import it in your cloud, but it isn't usually a wise thing to do but with huge folders with a LOT of files.
  • Client can enqueue downloads and resume them properly, even if closed.
  • Client is WAY faster than browser, since within browser, it downloads to RAM before saving - therefore, if you don't have a HUGE amount of free memory, a big download can fail while it never fails through client - if it does fail, it resumes automatically anyway. This "download memory" seems also to not be swappable (maybe a Firefox issue?), so if other programs don't swap themselves, you'll fail to download a big file once your RAM is full. Client download directly to disk.
  • I've set the client to use up to 6 simultaneous connections for the same file - my landline could handle that easily - without any limit and also without using HTTP. However, the download queue is processed one file at a time, you cannot use the multiple connections to get several files at the same time.
  • I'm here on F95 since mid-2019, I use Mega from the beginning, and I tricked its quota since few days after I start using it. I'm still not banned from Mega. I used their web interface maybe... four or five times? since I registered my Mega account: I rely only on the client. I used it mostly for initial settings, and to get the upscaled videos for "Treasure of Nadia" - that's "just" a 16 GB download, done with 4 tricks to get everything synched to my hard drive - done at 80 MB/s, and 10 minutes grand total because I didn't switched the VPN immediately after limit was reached, due to my other activities on the computer. Synchronization is usually even faster than "regular" downloads, if you have enough cloud space to store it (20 GB with free accounts). And I'm still not banned, BTW, despite I just did it moments ago...
See my post for details to bypass Mega's quota easily.

I was speaking about putting back the Mega's quota within the discussion, not replying in itself - on the contrary, I appreciate a reply, and not one the next semester, and it would be difficult to scare me with a wall of text... ;) But if you hadn't read my post, the one I linked just above, then it makes sense to speak about it again... As I said, breaking this limit is a pure joke.
Again, you can't know that for sure without actually working on NOPY itself. Also, again, those kinds of issues would not just affect you and a few others, there would literally have been nobody with good speeds using NOPY.

Here's the thing, the service wasn't bad, it was your connection to that service that was bad. It may have been at a point in the middle, where neither you nor NOPY had any control, but it wasn't NOPY or nobody would have had good service.

As for AV scans with Drive, I don't bother with them since I only download things I trust with Drive, something I don't easily do. If I suspect the possibility even from a trusted source, I scan it with my own tools. Drive was never meant to be an AV scanner, it's meant to be a cloud storage and download site.

If it was IP based, they wouldn't be able to get around people using a VPN without banning them, but the second I use a VPN, it starts and immediately resumes counting down as if I never switched to the VPN connection and I remain without any free transfer limit to spare.

They actually do care who gets by the limits on free accounts since those limits are meant to make free users want to buy bigger transfer quotas. And yes, they do chase people for piracy, mainly by striking the account accused of it with the threat of contacting the authorities on top of that and, if the account is used multiple times for piracy, banning it. I should know, my account has a piracy flag on record.

You still have to load the actual download into the browser to make the client download it. You have to go to the download link in your browser and then toggle the option that says to use the sync client on. That means being logged into your account.

Just because you haven't been banned by MEGA doesn't mean you won't be and that's not a risk some people are willing to take because the bans are likely IP based, which means no new account will help. I've been on F95 since 2017 and MEGA since it opened up with the original 50GB storage offer, I think they lowered how much storage new accounts get since I joined. Back then, yeah, it was a piece of cake, but they are evolving as all sites do and not in a good way for us free users.

I see, I misinterpreted the reply part.
 
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hey guys maya's memory has been reset ? i forgot .i think i remember something like that but i was very sleepy so i probably skip some sensei's lines
 
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how bout we just stop discussing mega and nopy and actually talk about, y'know, the game?
We could also talk about everyone's favorite topic: Piracy.
Because we definitely haven't discussed that enough and need to talk about theft, morality and whatever else reoccurs in those discussions.

maya resetting ? which event ? i was very sleepy in last events so i might missing that or forgot .she lost her memories about last maya events ?
If I read what he said correctly, he's saying it as an hypothesis of what could happen in the future, not something that has happened.

Anyway, here, have a random topic:
Strange amount of bird folk.
Mainly chickens, but Noodles and Makoto as a bluejay. Also Maya as a bird. And baby flinches.
 

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hey guys maya's memory has been reset ? i forgot .i think i remember something like that but i was very sleepy so i probably skip some sensei's lines
No, it was thrown out as a theoretical, not something that has actually happened yet.

The dorm war event did tease a possible reset during Maya's challenge, but it's unclear if she was being threatened with one herself, or if they were threatening to reset Sensei. In either case, it was a bluff.
 
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We could also talk about everyone's favorite topic: Piracy.
Because we definitely haven't discussed that enough and need to talk about theft, morality and whatever else reoccurs in those discussions.


If I read what he said correctly, he's saying it as an hypothesis of what could happen in the future, not something that has happened.

Anyway, here, have a random topic:
Strange amount of bird folk.
Mainly chickens, but Noodles and Makoto as a bluejay. Also Maya as a bird. And baby flinches.
Oh no, not the dreaded P word again.

Also, yes, there are quite a few birds, there must be some significance. Selebus doesn't seem to be the type to just randomly throw in a whole bunch of something just for the hell of it, there's usually a reason.
 
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