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Moonflare

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I have received a reply from the mods.
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Current policy of the thread regarding spoilers:
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As a final note, I would also personally encourage everyone to solve whatever issues may arise by talking to the regulars, as we're always trying to be welcoming.

Edit: With that, the issue has been solved. And now we can resume the peaceful and stressful wait for 0.47. Also, I'm out of reactions.
 
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Adding to what bingoogus said:

Anything can be considered a spoiler. If you open up the game, watch the very first event and come here, literally anything we say will be a spoiler. Hell, even if I say that in the intro sequence you have to jump, guess what? spoiler. Then someone will say, well but the spoiler has to have some significance. Who judges that? It is highly subjective. We literally have had people here that saw us talking about Akira every single day and thought for sure Akira would be a girl they'd meet eventually - and were very surprised when they got to the event. So it's not the name that matters, but that I can't say "hey, Akira is Sensei, okay (?)". And this applies to all sort of stuff. Chika at some point doesn't have blonde hair anymore? That is not only a spoiler but it might matter a lot more to someone else than you. Again, it's all subjective.

I have personally played through the entire game before reading the thread because, obviously, there will be spoilers. And the only real way to prevent spoilers about this game was if everyone starting making their posts like this:

click below for the actual post cause we can't risk anyone with accidental spoilers
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Regardless, I have submitted a ticket and will thus wait for further clarification from the moderation, since, at this moment, I was instructed to use spoilers when necessary. Well, given that is up to me to judge when it is necessary, nothing changed. Will update if I receive further instructions. And regarding the possibility of this coming from a tantrum, well, if true that's just a disgrace - I have nothing else to say about it.
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I'd appreciate an clarification on wtf happened.
Your answer came shortly before this post.
 
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BlackDays said:
I'd appreciate an clarification on wtf happened.
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Several hours after a newcomer complained about spoilers and was not agreed with by the thread regulars on the nature of his complaints, one of my posts was edited by a moderator and they sent me a message to use spoilers when necessary. We haven't had any problems related to spoilers in this thread for a very long time, maybe years even. I submitted a ticket (inquiry to the moderation) explaining and asking further about the situation.
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Moonflare was silented but it's all good now
 
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I used to prefer using the term Sensei, but then I saw Selebus using the name 'Akira' instead of 'Sensei' when posting here. Since he did so while in a position of presumable safety and comfort, I imagine that in his mind he uses 'Akira' too, and that would make it the more 'canonical' name, or maybe there is some other purpose there, but either way due to that I slant towards Akira as well. It may be that the name 'sensei' is associated with evading responsibility (like: "It wasn't me, it was [generic protagonist title]") and so he used Akira here to reject that disassociation and lay blame flatly at his feet.

From just a few errant forum posts, this level of reasoning is possible for the dedicated. What do you think, God?
 
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Gonna throw in my two cents cause I like participating in this thread, I usually call him Sensei if I'm not using a spoiler tag or the blurry thingy and call him Akira only in the spoiler drop down and blurry thingy. (Also yes I know it's called Inline spoiler before someone jumps on my back about it, I'm home on a porn game forum wanna be a bit childish :p) The reason is simply that's just how my brain works and I expect no one else to follow or do that unless you're talking about recently released stuff then I wish your pillow is warm and soggy on both sides. I grew up subconsciously covering or tagging spoilers cause while I don't really mind them (Unless it's something media shattering or a giant twist, like someone else earlier wrote it makes me look forward on how said spoiler came to be) but I have two best friends I love to death but would get pissy at the smallest spoilers (They are a lot better now compared to a decade ago) So when I knew I was ahead of them I had to in my head edit anything I said or wrote in real time to avoid it (My go to was I give you 2 weeks for something we are all watching/ready/playing ((Again a decade ago when we were younger and had more free time)) before I starting spoiling small stuff)

Another thing I did while playing this game that had the secondary effect of keeping me spoiler free and made me not say or post anything (Unless it was a question I needed to answer, and even then I would only read what was responded to me and the question was usually not story related) was that I would have the Wiki open, see when each patch would end as I played, then come here and search 0.XX, find the post that had the update and then from there read what everyone said until I got to the part where everyone would get excited and start theorizing and then stop when the "It's releasing tomorrow" posts would appear, leave the forum there, play the patch, then repeat till I caught up. Think it was a good system. It also made me start to realize how complex and deep the story is and how much I had missed.
 
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And Yumi is a thief part of the Yakuza. Your point?
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Dude... What's your point? You asked some funny question. I replied with funny answer. Then you went full defensive mode. :WaitWhat:
I don't like the way you are antagonistic to any response, even indirectly. The whole AKIRA situation made you mad on all of us, xd.
I won't lie, I can be really antagonistic as well, but come on, we're trying to communicate in a positive way here, not trying to be negative. So chill out, take a rest from a game, I dunno.
 
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Man, i remember some long time ago when Sensei's name was revealed to be Akira and i started to adress that character by that name.
And some people where like "I'll still call him Sensei, that fuck doesn't deserve to have a name.".
And i was like "Yeah, i just don't self insert, so i adress characters by their name".
Funny times. A whiff of nostalgia.
 
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Man, i remember some long time ago when Sensei's name was revealed to be Akira and i started to adress that character by that name.
And some people where like "I'll still call him Sensei, that fuck doesn't deserve to have a name.".
And i was like "Yeah, i just don't self insert, so i adress characters by their name".
Funny times. A whiff of nostalgia.
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LoveRedHairedGirl said:
Dude... What's your point? You asked some funny question. I replied with funny answer. Then you went full defensive mode. :WaitWhat:
I don't like the way you are antagonistic to any response, even indirectly. The whole AKIRA situation made you mad on all of us, xd.
I won't lie, I can be really antagonistic as well, but come on, we're trying to communicate in a positive way here, not trying to be negative. So chill out, take a rest from a game, I dunno.
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You can spoiler something multiple times? That does kinda make sense.
I think you are misjudging the situation here. Just ignore how snappy the comment you replied to looks as I didn't mean it that way. I'm not the best at conveying my thoughts through writing or whatever that was. I do get defensive but you didn't trigger that right then. The Akira situation did however. I'm not a positive person and this is me being somewhat reasonable. I'm holding myself back a little because I like it here.
 
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BlackDays said:
Man, i remember some long time ago when Sensei's name was revealed to be Akira and i started to adress that character by that name.
And some people where like "I'll still call him Sensei, that fuck doesn't deserve to have a name.".
And i was like "Yeah, i just don't self insert, so i adress characters by their name".
Funny times. A whiff of nostalgia.
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To me, it's now about self inserting or whether he deserves a name or not. It's about context, what fits the most and maintaining the illusion of a major spoiler, which I would argue that is. Makes sense in my head. I'm a logical thinker
 
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The Akira situation did however. I'm not a positive person and this is me being somewhat reasonable. I'm holding myself back a little because I like it here.
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It's about context, what fits the most and maintaining the illusion of a major spoiler, which I would argue that is. Makes sense in my head. I'm a logical thinker
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If you like it here then i suggest you work on dealing with your issues than just holding yourself back, you've rubbed a hell of a lot of people the wrong way with your spat and it's going to take effort to repair your public image from this point. We can be forgiving but acting antagonistically or even just being perceived as such is a sure way to cement yourself as a thread nuisance in the eyes of just about everyone who participates in this thread on a regular basis.
 
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To me, it's now about self inserting or whether he deserves a name or not. It's about context, what fits the most and maintaining the illusion of a major spoiler, which I would argue that is. Makes sense in my head. I'm a logical thinker
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Aight, this might be my first and last post to you, not out of malice but you're more like a visitor to me, and you replied to my post.
First: How is that characters name a "major spoiler"? He could be named "Biggus Diggus" and it would change (afaik, and i might be wrong, but doubt it) absolutely nothing. It's not like Akira is the keyword to "solve the game", if it actually can be solved one day.
Second/Last: As a pragmatist myself, don't throw something around like "I'm a logical thinker", if you defy your own words by acting as mentioned in *First:. It's illogical, it's emotional.

Finally:
I'll still try to see you as a normal person that's a bit picky.
And not as some "I'll go to a foreign place and stir up shit" kind of person.
 
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