lolzmandude

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You're gonna have to walk me through how you edit a variable. For a boolean, you have to open the variable up, then change the value from true to false or vice versa, then press change, then make sure you don't roll back.
So, I just press alt+m to open the thing, click on the number value, change it, click the change button to confirm and then a few seconds later not closing the overlay the number changes back
 

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ugh fuck i dont think im even a third done fuck this
Precisely why I didn't even bother responding. I've dealt with plenty of their type before. Doesn't matter how much effort you put in to point out the inconsistencies, won't ever acknowledge the flaws in their logic.

Beyond delusional that they think their theories are undeniable truth and they seem to think they know the story better than Selebus himself.

For example "you did it" isn't some overly complicated secret trying to point at Sensei killing some unborn child that we may or may not even know the true identity of. It just simply represents Sekai, and Akira's self-blame for her death. It's shown in game multiple times how much her death affected him to the point it took him countless resets to be able to even acknowledge openly that it even happened. He believed it was his fault because he didn't run away with her when she asked him to, he felt he betrayed her. It's implied she died soon after that, presumably not able to cope with being in a loveless marriage anymore and killed herself and took Nozomu out with her, potentially even saving Akira from further abuse from his brother.

Sekai is the most direct and obvious option for the meaning behind the name "you did it"
It's a secret that is slowly revealed to us from the beginning, making us constantly wonder what it means and what could Akira have done to make him manifest a being whose whole existence is to exert blame on himself? Did he rape someone, murder someone? Our imaginations began seeking out the worst possible explanations, only to end up being something that he didn't even mean to happen intentionally. He blames himself, because all he had to do was take her hand and leave with her, but he was a coward.

And those are the kinds of mistakes that truly break us and make us curse fate and all of its cruelty.
It's excellent storytelling.

A lot of the parallels being pointed out in the OG post are meaningless. It's feels like that person would go outside and when noticing that the sky is blue, they would say something like:
"You know what else is blue? AYANE'S EYES. AYANE DIED AND CREATED THE SKY BECAUSE SHE LOVED AKIRA AND WANTED HIM TO REMEMBER HER. BOOM YOU'RE WELCOME SELEBUS."

I can't be assed to engage with it anymore XD
 
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Dude, I can't figure out what the dev's gameplan is with Io anymore.
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Yep that's why I'm sticking with the stomachache skip route personally on my main save. I wanna give her this moment of feeling safe, and will hold out hope we can make it last. Even though I know I may end up regretting it since so many forces (including Akira himself) seem hell-bent on making sure that no happy ending will happen at this point.

This post details my thoughts on that scene in particular, I won't rehash them all here
I don't regret saying skipping Stomachache even after viewing both sides, although there's certainly pros and cons for either one.

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Dude, I can't figure out what the dev's gameplan is with Io anymore.
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At this point in the discussions people ended up saying the pattern that's held up through the game, that sometimes you need to break something to make it stronger again. I even compared the red path dialogue to a happy event or something, reading out of character for the game.

Once you make it to her next events I can give you a bigger example. Right now it's just "see how much her green path dialogue vibes with the rest of the game."
 
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Remember when this thread didn’t have weekly drama?

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Honestly no cause when I first came here it was on fire. (most of the people who got filtered by the extreme content were still around).
I can't be the only one looking forward to a dominant Touka:
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Right?

Also, more Drunk Touka:
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Her liver is worth it.
She definitely won't be dom at first, but I think when she realises how weak Akira is she'll start poking him a bit more, maybe transitioning into a dom role after a short amount of time.

Either way I'm all for it, love dom girls.
okay, now I understand. Indeed, it seems that the game will check for flag "persistent.lesson1" in the middle of "backwards dancing". I didn't even know Selebus invested time into doing this.
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Well, ironically, I recommend that you follow both the guide mod, and puzzle guide, as following them will protect you from this idiocy. URM will also alert you for these kinds of things being called and enable you to bypass them yourself. But I'm glad you managed to solve the issue nonetheless.
I'm gonna be honest this sort of shit is so fucking annoying, IDK why Sel has such a hate boner for people looking to cut through the game but it's pathetic.

Oh nooooo someone is asking "obvious" questions in the discord cause they didn't readdd.
Who cares, point em to a guide and be done with it, it's way easier than doing whatever the fuck he's done here just to snipe people.

Not to mention this will catch people who are using a guide for subsequent playthroughs, something there's actually a decent reason to do with this game, seeing how things change over time depending on your choices.
(Stomache, bad homie, bad uncle, nude sharing, watching Abyss before the onsen, so on so forth).

I just don't get it, so much policing to enforce an "intended" experience, just let people enjoy your game you fucking cretin.

At this point in the discussions people ended up saying the pattern that's held up through the game, that sometimes you need to break something to make it stronger again. I even compared the red path dialogue to a happy event or something, reading out of character for the game.

Once you make it to her next events I can give you a bigger example. Right now it's just "see how much her green path dialogue vibes with the rest of the game."
Honestly this is really dissapointing to me, almost like it's rewarding you for being reprehensible at every possible chance.
Personally I think it'd be nicer if the game wasn't completely hellbent on making excuses for doing bad things and actually smacked you for it from time to time.
I think the worst thing that can happen is shutting Rin off for ages by being a bad homie, which is comparably a drop in the bucket.

But no, it's a good thing you took advantage of a girls PTSD trip and she loves you so so much and it was eye opening experience for her in some way.
Idk man, think it'd be better if she lost a lot of interest in Akira for this; afterall -- it was pathetic of him.
 
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since I still can't figure out what's going on with my changes made with URM are being undone, I'm currently convinced that he's implemented a check to see if certain values are altered in some way and undoes it. That feels somewhat unlikely but I wouldn't put it past him.

also am I crazy or is the game taking way longer to launch after each update? I'm now questioning if that is also on purpose just to fuck with people
 
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since I still can't figure out what's going on with my changes made with URM are being undone, I'm currently convinced that he's implemented a check to see if certain values are altered in some way and undoes it. That feels somewhat unlikely but I wouldn't put it past him.

also am I crazy or is the game taking way longer to launch after each update? I'm now questioning if that is also on purpose just to fuck with people
Doubt it, I figure someone would have noticed by now if that were the case. Might just be something wrong with permissions or the install.

Also yes, the game will take longer to launch with every update because it just keeps getting even more massive (12+ GB already and will keep increasing) and Renpy seems to struggle to load everything at once.
 

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Dude, I can't figure out what the dev's gameplan is with Io anymore.
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The last part of what you said is my worry. Wait until their events in 0.47 and compare both dialogue choices. If you compare red vs. green, it's like seeing someone confronting reality or accepting to live in a delusion that will one day crumble. In both she knows he's broken, but in one she knows who he really is (see also the next quote), and in the other it's like she built a fantasy that she's the one he won't rape. They feel like they end at the same point, but it's only an illusion.
But no, it's a good thing you took advantage of a girls PTSD trip and she loves you so so much and it was eye opening experience for her in some way.
Idk man, think it'd be better if she lost a lot of interest in Akira for this; afterall -- it was pathetic of him.
It's not that she loves you. As you said, he's pathetic, which is why she's kinda latching to him, since all the sex she knows is exploitative and hurtful, him being pathetic is a new experience related to sex that she hasn't known. A bit like Stockholm, maybe?
 
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I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
 

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I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
Basically the run where you try to be a good person but you're not allowed.
There's a decent chunk of diff dialogue, especially with Ami, in which many events are pretty heavily changed.
 
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I have a question about Kaori.
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You should get bored more often xd


So, I just press alt+m to open the thing, click on the number value, change it, click the change button to confirm and then a few seconds later not closing the overlay the number changes back
since I still can't figure out what's going on with my changes made with URM are being undone, I'm currently convinced that he's implemented a check to see if certain values are altered in some way and undoes it. That feels somewhat unlikely but I wouldn't put it past him.

also am I crazy or is the game taking way longer to launch after each update? I'm now questioning if that is also on purpose just to fuck with people
Which variable are you trying to change? Because there are similar options.
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I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
The famous "red path". I think it would end up being a pain in the ass because you will have to think how to intentionally miss them xd
 
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I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
Most of it isn't worth a run. Most red path dialogue is little quips or just entire scenes missing. The funniest one you can get imo is missing the halloween Maki and Haruka cat sex scene, where you actually fix their pipes.

It's basically not fingering Ami and Io's red path text where you get entirely different scenes, and strange amounts of effort put into content you're not supposed to see. Io's kind of understandable due to the crowd reaction, but there's so much effort put into not fucking Ami when you're supposed to fuck Ami, almost like in some way you're not meant to.



Finally done with 0.45 and the first reset of chapter 4. I'm gonna reread everything with the context of the rest of the game but I've basically completed a playthrough now.
 

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but there's so much effort put into not fucking Ami when you're supposed to fuck Ami, almost like in some way you're not meant to.
Because you are absolutely not meant to not fuck Ami.
It doesnt matter overall anyway cause one of the events forces you to regardless, although you don't see it.
 
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