flacc2pit

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But I don't know yet, I'm still thinking about it. I do wonder if when LiL is finally complete all this discussion will also be pointless, and the regular reader will just go "good thing I just blazed through all that supernatural/religious nonsense, and waited for the game to give me answers instead of thinking about it".
When done well knowing the answers shouldn't diminish the discussion that lead to it. The Ghost of High Heart passages in A song of ice and fire are still beloved after her allegorical visions come do or don't come true. I think the size of narrative and number of different perspectives in LiL should enable the story to still hold up after plot questions are answered. Knowing that Maya Prime was wrong about some things doesn't diminish the impact of her scenes and her trying to understand things; the struggle in the story should still work whether the reader is aware of the why and how. I suppose there is risk that parts of the story will read as meaningless or redundant/filler without the obfuscation, but even then the effect on the characters is still there for most of it. Only recently have character reactions fallen flat, and they fell flat on first read anways. Sensei's relative stupidity/lack of action is there throughout, and that may be the most frustrating thing, as on first read a lot of the time his memory or lack thereof serves as a way to handwave why he doesn't say or do certain things, but if/when we get confirmation that inaction/lack of interaction with confidants were caused by apathy or complete incompetence instead of memory lapses/God fuckery, large sections of this whole story will read as treading water.
 
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shmurfer

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Hey everyone! I keep seeing people mention the Green Route—could someone tell me what it is and how you unlock it? Is it no Ami fuck route or something else?
When you miss events, they turn red. When you see an event, it turns green. There's a way to see every event in the game, this is Green Path.

Red and green path is just useful shorthand. Some major things happen based on choices that miss events. Not fucking Ami is red path. Being a bad homie to Rin is red path. Sometimes we'll compare things like red path and green path Io.

It's impossible to see all dialogue without cheating (at least one point in the chapter 1 rework made certain alt dialogue impossible) and there's a couple interesting things that happen in the game based on intense specific grinding, but most people aren't meant to see that during their playthroughs. Missing these is still Green Path, it's purely missed events that we care about here.

Just catch up to the current update and then ask / pay attention to the loremaster posts if you want to hear about things like that.
 

Bingoogus

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lol and I thought it was something like a green flag route where you are as nice as possible.
I'm a nerd, when i first came up with the Green Path name i went on a bit of a rant about the 'purity' of the route, i had just come out of another re-read of God Emperor of Dune and if you'd read that you'd know all about the Golden Path. In short, the Green Path is the true route, the way the game is meant to be played if you actually pay attention to what the author says, because the truth is you don't have an actual choice, there's the illusion of choice, you're free to choose wrong, but make no mistake, it is wrong. You might think you're making choices, but you're just ripping the story up because you can't handle the weight of the story, at least as far as the dev is concerned. The Green Path is making all the 'choices' Sensei would make, not what you would make.

Anyway, the name stuck, not that i'm complaining exactly, but i was being a bit pretentious when i first coined and ranted on about it like 2 years ago or something. Play however you like, the dev is a douche, sticking to a 100% save to see all the content is smart but if you can't get through some of the more twisted shit in the game, well, do what you want i guess.
 

Hungnoxu

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Is missing Toys event gonna affects anything? The event appeared after Makoto's dad event happened so i couldnt increase her lust
 

shmurfer

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Is missing Toys event gonna affects anything? The event appeared after Makoto's dad event happened so i couldnt increase her lust
Kind of, missing the event itself misses lore. and it's one of the bugs in the guide mod atm.

Have you got URM? we could tell you what to edit.


Although, didn't you just post about Glasswalker? That's after Toys. I kinda recommend rolling back to before Toys, editing the values to let you see it, and then letting the game text skip for a while. If your save was red before Toys probably ain't worth rolling back.
 
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Hungnoxu

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Kind of, missing the event itself misses lore. and it's one of the bugs in the guide mod atm.

Have you got URM? we could tell you what to edit.


Although, didn't you just post about Glasswalker? That's after Toys. I kinda recommend rolling back to before Toys, editing the values to let you see it, and then letting the game text skip for a while. If your save was red before Toys probably ain't worth rolling back.
Yeah, I've already done Glasswalker, just want to ask if Toys important or not, 'cause if yes then I'll have to replay alots because I'm currently playing using Joiplay rn, cant edit anything
Edit: Ah nvm, autovn mod helped me get Toys event. Nice
 
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I'm a nerd, when i first came up with the Green Path name i went on a bit of a rant about the 'purity' of the route, i had just come out of another re-read of God Emperor of Dune and if you'd read that you'd know all about the Golden Path. In short, the Green Path is the true route, the way the game is meant to be played if you actually pay attention to what the author says, because the truth is you don't have an actual choice, there's the illusion of choice, you're free to choose wrong, but make no mistake, it is wrong. You might think you're making choices, but you're just ripping the story up because you can't handle the weight of the story, at least as far as the dev is concerned. The Green Path is making all the 'choices' Sensei would make, not what you would make.

Anyway, the name stuck, not that i'm complaining exactly, but i was being a bit pretentious when i first coined and ranted on about it like 2 years ago or something. Play however you like, the dev is a douche, sticking to a 100% save to see all the content is smart but if you can't get through some of the more twisted shit in the game, well, do what you want i guess.
So interesting.
I just know the cinematographic versions of the story by Frank Herbert and his succesors (Dune OG/+, Dune TV short series 3+3, and sadly by Villeneuve).
And i know that Sel is into David Lynch.

That said, i only faintly remember "The God Emperor of Dune" from summary.
So what are you comparing?
 

Hungnoxu

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Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?
 
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Bingoogus

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So interesting.
I just know the cinematographic versions of the story by Frank Herbert and his succesors (Dune OG/+, Dune TV short series 3+3, and sadly by Villeneuve).
And i know that Sel is into David Lynch.

That said, i only faintly remember "The God Emperor of Dune" from summary.
So what are you comparing?
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Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?
Hint: It's the one person that treats him how he feels he deserves and is as fucked up as him but also everyone :)
 
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Mike.Ross80

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Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?
Honestly, we don't know who he loves most. He loves all of the girls in his own way. Even now, we are just at the halfway point of releases for the game. Suspicion is that there will be the purity paths we will get at the end for all of the girls, and in each one, that will be who Akira loves the most
 

Hungnoxu

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Welp, I guess I'll finish chapter 3 then comeback here later. Its either that my whole day is ruined because its not my angel Niki despite everyting or I somehow also love Maya as a character and then feel happy about that
 

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May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?
Sekai. He's literally incapable of loving anyone other than her because he's still stuck in it. For him to love anyone else he'd have to deal with her image to him, and then rework what love is to him (outside of her influence).

That being said, the top two actual love interests are Niki and Maya. And that's because they both are linked to Sekai. Niki was the counterpart to Sekai, after all. And Maya was her substitute (in more ways than one, since she's also the Akira to his own Sekai).

For the current Akira, Maya Prime tops everything else. If he managed to recover all his memories, then maybe it'd be between her and Niki (in a fairer match).

Edit: Outside of romantic love, it's Ami. But it's hard to evaluate Ami because that's heavily forced upon him by compulsion as well.
 

Hungnoxu

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Sekai. He's literally incapable of loving anyone other than her because he's still stuck in it. For him to love anyone else he'd have to deal with her image to him, and then rework what love is to him (outside of her influence).

That being said, the top two actual love interests are Niki and Maya. And that's because they both are linked to Sekai. Niki was the counterpart to Sekai, after all. And Maya was her substitute (in more ways than one, since she's also the Akira to his own Sekai).

For the current Akira, Maya Prime tops everything else. If he managed to recover all his memories, then maybe it'd be between her and Niki (in a fairer match).

Edit: Outside of romantic love, it's Ami. But it's hard to evaluate Ami because that's heavily forced upon him by compulsion as well.
I apologize for saying this but ngl, I laughed while reading this because this somewhat looks like a Sukuna vs Gojo analysis or sth like that(prime to boost up power). To add to that 'vs' thing, there must be a Niki Prime in the future right?
Thx for this, my day wont be ruined because Niki still there
 
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