Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.49.0] [Selebus]

[shmurfer]

Hey everyone! I keep seeing people mention the Green Route—could someone tell me what it is and how you unlock it? Is it no Ami fuck route or something else?

When you miss events, they turn red. When you see an event, it turns green. There's a way to see every event in the game, this is Green Path.

Red and green path is just useful shorthand. Some major things happen based on choices that miss events. Not fucking Ami is red path. Being a bad homie to Rin is red path. Sometimes we'll compare things like red path and green path Io.

It's impossible to see all dialogue without cheating (at least one point in the chapter 1 rework made certain alt dialogue impossible) and there's a couple interesting things that happen in the game based on intense specific grinding, but most people aren't meant to see that during their playthroughs. Missing these is still Green Path, it's purely missed events that we care about here.

Just catch up to the current update and then ask / pay attention to the loremaster posts if you want to hear about things like that.

 

[Pedro4545454]

Even after months, my opinion remains the same.

Red path = happiness now, much sadness later.

Green path = sadness now, much happiness later.

 

[Bingoogus]

lol and I thought it was something like a green flag route where you are as nice as possible.

I'm a nerd, when i first came up with the Green Path name i went on a bit of a rant about the 'purity' of the route, i had just come out of another re-read of God Emperor of Dune and if you'd read that you'd know all about the Golden Path. In short, the Green Path is the true route, the way the game is meant to be played if you actually pay attention to what the author says, because the truth is you don't have an actual choice, there's the illusion of choice, you're free to choose wrong, but make no mistake, it is wrong. You might think you're making choices, but you're just ripping the story up because you can't handle the weight of the story, at least as far as the dev is concerned. The Green Path is making all the 'choices' Sensei would make, not what you would make.

Anyway, the name stuck, not that i'm complaining exactly, but i was being a bit pretentious when i first coined and ranted on about it like 2 years ago or something. Play however you like, the dev is a douche, sticking to a 100% save to see all the content is smart but if you can't get through some of the more twisted shit in the game, well, do what you want i guess.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

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[Hungnoxu]

Is missing Toys event gonna affects anything? The event appeared after Makoto's dad event happened so i couldnt increase her lust

 

[shmurfer]

Is missing Toys event gonna affects anything? The event appeared after Makoto's dad event happened so i couldnt increase her lust

Kind of, missing the event itself misses lore. and it's one of the bugs in the guide mod atm.

Have you got URM? we could tell you what to edit.


Although, didn't you just post about Glasswalker? That's after Toys. I kinda recommend rolling back to before Toys, editing the values to let you see it, and then letting the game text skip for a while. If your save was red before Toys probably ain't worth rolling back.

 

[Hungnoxu]

Kind of, missing the event itself misses lore. and it's one of the bugs in the guide mod atm.

Have you got URM? we could tell you what to edit.


Although, didn't you just post about Glasswalker? That's after Toys. I kinda recommend rolling back to before Toys, editing the values to let you see it, and then letting the game text skip for a while. If your save was red before Toys probably ain't worth rolling back.

Yeah, I've already done Glasswalker, just want to ask if Toys important or not, 'cause if yes then I'll have to replay alots because I'm currently playing using Joiplay rn, cant edit anything
Edit: Ah nvm, autovn mod helped me get Toys event. Nice

 

[BlackDays]

I'm a nerd, when i first came up with the Green Path name i went on a bit of a rant about the 'purity' of the route, i had just come out of another re-read of God Emperor of Dune and if you'd read that you'd know all about the Golden Path. In short, the Green Path is the true route, the way the game is meant to be played if you actually pay attention to what the author says, because the truth is you don't have an actual choice, there's the illusion of choice, you're free to choose wrong, but make no mistake, it is wrong. You might think you're making choices, but you're just ripping the story up because you can't handle the weight of the story, at least as far as the dev is concerned. The Green Path is making all the 'choices' Sensei would make, not what you would make.

Anyway, the name stuck, not that i'm complaining exactly, but i was being a bit pretentious when i first coined and ranted on about it like 2 years ago or something. Play however you like, the dev is a douche, sticking to a 100% save to see all the content is smart but if you can't get through some of the more twisted shit in the game, well, do what you want i guess.

So interesting.
I just know the cinematographic versions of the story by Frank Herbert and his succesors (Dune OG/+, Dune TV short series 3+3, and sadly by Villeneuve).
And i know that Sel is into David Lynch.

That said, i only faintly remember "The God Emperor of Dune" from summary.
So what are you comparing?

 

[Hungnoxu]

Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?

 

[Bingoogus]

So interesting.
I just know the cinematographic versions of the story by Frank Herbert and his succesors (Dune OG/+, Dune TV short series 3+3, and sadly by Villeneuve).
And i know that Sel is into David Lynch.

That said, i only faintly remember "The God Emperor of Dune" from summary.
So what are you comparing?

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[jclark1337]

Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?

Hint: It's the one person that treats him how he feels he deserves and is as fucked up as him but also everyone

 

[Hungnoxu]

Hint: It's the one person that treats him how he feels he deserves and is as fucked up as him but also everyone

So he does love someone? Thats new. For the hint, uh... Sana? Because aint no way my angel Niki is fucked up

 

[Mike.Ross80]

Feeling weird, probaly still not used to this yet? I cried during Glasswalker, was feeling so emotional and thinking that Sensei was slowly becoming a better person. But then, literally in the next few events, he said he loves Maya, Noriko, Kirin, and Yuki and wanted to fuck them or sth. May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?

Honestly, we don't know who he loves most. He loves all of the girls in his own way. Even now, we are just at the halfway point of releases for the game. Suspicion is that there will be the purity paths we will get at the end for all of the girls, and in each one, that will be who Akira loves the most

 

[jclark1337]

So he does love someone? Thats new. For the hint, uh... Sana? Because aint no way my angel Niki is fucked up

It's up to interpretation tbh, but I won't say anything more. Finish CH3 and you'll see

 

[Pedro4545454]

Remember to smile at the end of chapter 3

 

[Hungnoxu]

Welp, I guess I'll finish chapter 3 then comeback here later. Its either that my whole day is ruined because its not my angel Niki despite everyting or I somehow also love Maya as a character and then feel happy about that

 

[Moonflare]

May I ask for spoilers about who he actually loves? Or basically he gonna "love" everyone or no one because he doesnt even know "love"?

Sekai. He's literally incapable of loving anyone other than her because he's still stuck in it. For him to love anyone else he'd have to deal with her image to him, and then rework what love is to him (outside of her influence).

That being said, the top two actual love interests are Niki and Maya. And that's because they both are linked to Sekai. Niki was the counterpart to Sekai, after all. And Maya was her substitute (in more ways than one, since she's also the Akira to his own Sekai).

For the current Akira, Maya Prime tops everything else. If he managed to recover all his memories, then maybe it'd be between her and Niki (in a fairer match).

Edit: Outside of romantic love, it's Ami. But it's hard to evaluate Ami because that's heavily forced upon him by compulsion as well.

 

[Hungnoxu]

Sekai. He's literally incapable of loving anyone other than her because he's still stuck in it. For him to love anyone else he'd have to deal with her image to him, and then rework what love is to him (outside of her influence).

That being said, the top two actual love interests are Niki and Maya. And that's because they both are linked to Sekai. Niki was the counterpart to Sekai, after all. And Maya was her substitute (in more ways than one, since she's also the Akira to his own Sekai).

For the current Akira, Maya Prime tops everything else. If he managed to recover all his memories, then maybe it'd be between her and Niki (in a fairer match).

Edit: Outside of romantic love, it's Ami. But it's hard to evaluate Ami because that's heavily forced upon him by compulsion as well.

I apologize for saying this but ngl, I laughed while reading this because this somewhat looks like a Sukuna vs Gojo analysis or sth like that(prime to boost up power). To add to that 'vs' thing, there must be a Niki Prime in the future right?
Thx for this, my day wont be ruined because Niki still there

 

[Ferlucio]

June 2023 carepackage on pixeldrain redirects to some "Dungeon Explorer ' C.M.Cas Game full version.rar" instead
Mega seems to be fine.

 

[Budoop]

So he does love someone? Thats new. For the hint, uh... Sana? Because aint no way my angel Niki is fucked up

There is an answer to this but it's spoilery.
Sekai and Maya.

For the current Akira, Maya Prime tops everything else. If he managed to recover all his memories, then maybe it'd be between her and Niki (in a fairer match).

Edit: Outside of romantic love, it's Ami. But it's hard to evaluate Ami because that's heavily forced upon him by compulsion as well.

I've been thinking about this for a while and honestly I think it's a clean sweep for Maya Prime.

He basically abandoned Niki for Sekai and ended up having Maya fill that hole in his heart and she takes a mantle of great reprieve for Akira, with her being the one he can lean on. She's also the first person that causes Sensei to crack as opposed to the other way around, with him confessing feelings flat out during the beach trip because he literally couldn't stop himself. I think it's very noteable that there's no narrator involved in this segment as with nearly every other character he has a whole ass monologue internally about why it's a lie / facade.

They don't even kiss that night, yet he's compelled to try and write again for the first time in forever, something he shows no conscious care for anymore until then, and doesn't try it again later.
If Maya can hit him that hard by barely saying or doing anything, then I don't think even Niki can compare, as she needed memories to illicit a similar reaction.

In a "Sensei True Love Tierlist" IMO it goes Maya Prime > Niki > Everyone else up for debate here and after.