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Kagitane

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What do you think guys - Did Sekai feel attraction and "love" only for Akira or would any prepubertal boy at the time have suited her?
 

barglenarglezous

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I thought that was a reference to Akira's father being the protagonist Sel's previous game
That's an assumption we made based on the reveal that Saki was his mother. But last I heard, Nothing Is Beautiful never got out of the demo stage, so there's not an ending, and especially not a canon ending that we can point to and definitively say "this is Akira's father."
 

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What do you think guys - Did Sekai feel attraction and "love" only for Akira or would any prepubertal boy at the time have suited her?
I think she loved Sensei, only second to Ami, but initially it was all about her "darkest desires":
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The wrongness of it seemed to be the main allure.

Sensei however also had the added bonus of it being as close to incest as she could likely get, so I think any would have suited her, but her brother in law was more taboo.
 
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barglenarglezous

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I remember that event. Not in detail though. I think it starts within a sports locker room? But they talk like they where standing in a school hallway.
How'd he even have a memory about it like this?
Unless he time travelled there.

Maybe this is a time paradox and he is his own father :LOL:

Anyway, besides the little we get as facts here and there, with the perception thingy going on, it's hard to rule out a loooot of things.
The event is Everything is Connected, and it starts on a soccer field. It's the one where you see Miku and the Kanda's severed heads, and they turn into melons. Maya guides you to a shed, where you briefly interact with Akira's mother.
 

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This would explain how Akira is, as Yasu says, "a child born to someone who understood"
Considering Yasu seemed to refer to that someone as "her" and "she":
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I think it's actually referring to Saki. Saki was also religious apparently, as well as connected to the upside down house, so her being on Yasu's and HOPE's side, as well as the light, would make sense.

Saki also seems a little callous since she seemed to not like Sensei much.
 

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What do you think guys - Did Sekai feel attraction and "love" only for Akira or would any prepubertal boy at the time have suited her?
She says in the Peek-a-boo event that her heart started skipping more than one beat while playing with him. She might have been able to fall in love with some other boy but she didn't pick Akira out of convenience, she fell in love organically.

That also implies that she started developing those feelings when he was a toddler. Bleck.
 

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The event is Everything is Connected, and it starts on a soccer field. It's the one where you see Miku and the Kanda's severed heads, and they turn into melons. Maya guides you to a shed, where you briefly interact with Akira's mother.
As i said i rember that event, mostly. I think it was reworked, with the head stuff, because ch1 rework.
 

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Could you please tell me where that was said?
It's more of an inference, since Saki appears:
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saying "It's upside down", upside down, and with the text "believe in God" upside down as well.

This showed up in the 'cracking of the egg (nothing is beautiful)' main event if I recall. Nothing is beautiful also seems to be referencing Selebus' past game.
 
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It's more of an inference, since Saki appears:
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saying "upside down", upside down, and with the text "believe in God" upside down as well, with "amen" also showing up.

This showed up in the 'cracking of the egg (nothing is beautiful)' main event if I recall. Nothing is beautiful also seems to be referencing Selebus' past game.
A bit weak. A hint maybe. Nothing concrete.
 

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That also implies that she started developing those feelings when he was a toddler. Bleck.
Oh no, it's even worse, babies develop object permanence by 6 to 9 months so Sekai had to be playing peekaboo before that age... Sekai was in love with a literal baby...

Haven't seen anyone say it but i've been operating under the assumption Sekai was kind of like Niki, friend of the family/Nozomu long before marrying him. Timelines kind of require it if you think about it.
 

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I dunno, i don't have good ears for music most of the time and i can hear bits in both songs so i'll just bow out of this one. I'd be more curious to find the actual source file Selly used to make his version tbh anyway.
I would bet money it's the Janis Ian song. While there are some similarities between "At Seventeen" and "Can't Smile Without You", the chord progressions are not the same, and the Janis Ian song has the bossa nova beat that the song in the happy event has.
 
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I would bet money it's the Janis Ian song. While there are some similarities between "At Seventeen" and "Can't Smile Without You", the chord progressions are not the same, and the Janis Ian song has the bossa nova beat that the song in the happy event has.
I think you're probably right, i listened to it again earlier and it matched more the more i listened, also, the whole Amy repeatedly mentioning 17 backs it up so i figure there's a far better chance it's this song than the Barry song.

Still, i suspect the Barry song was what it was reminding Bargle of as that's what it reminded me off too.
 
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I think you're probably right, i listened to it again earlier and it matched more the more i listened, also, the whole Amy repeatedly mentioning 17 backs it up so i figure there's a far better chance it's this song than the Barry song.

Still, i suspect the Barry song was what it was reminding Bargle of as that's what it reminded me off too.
Hearing both songs, the mall song is definitely derived from the Janis Ian track, but I don't know if I'd ever heard that song prior to this weekend. The Manilow track I definitely recognize from the easy-listening crap I had to hear in the car as a kid.
 
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