Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[Muk_king]

Yes, this is not only the expected route, but the correct route unless the story wants to devolve into some pedophile apologist nonsense.

That outcome would be too boring for the amount of effort that's gone into LiL. I don't see treating the situation more open mindedly as taking an apologist route either, but instead just looking at the elements and character relations that make sense in the setting.

No one in the game is only what they appear on the surface. Hidden traumas and insecurities need inspection and resolution. Since this process is more interesting, it is this that I expect is the real route of the story. That isn't necessarily people's first instinct though. As such, I'm glad Selebus found a uncensored platform, since he can actually make a story that considers interesting things instead of defaulting to the standard.

 

[Moonflare]

Spoiler: Makoto Event Titles

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Thanks for clearing that up for us Makoto, so the letter T was for Time all along No Sekai/Teacher to be seen here.

Unless it's three Ts... First is for Time, second is for Trees (Wires is the second god), third is for Three (Pareidolia is the third god) - yeah, that one is busted as well. Interesting that there are four Ts in that sentence as well but only three of them are given meaning - okay, enough tinfoil.

Jokes aside, I already kind of predicted that, but it's good that Makoto will not only have some time for her but will finally be able to discuss the supernatural stuff with Akira cause she's a smart person and that hasn't been really been put to work in regards to reset topics.

Also, from the last RAS meeting, her attitude of "I'll just wait since I can't change anything" doesn't cut it anymore since Akira could be the next one being wiped. High hopes for her events.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Unless it's three Ts... First is for Time, second is for Trees (Wires is the second god), third is for Three (Pareidolia is the third god) - yeah, that one is busted as well. Interesting that there are four Ts in that sentence as well but only three of them are given meaning - okay, enough tinfoil.

Tinfoil, officially the fourth God.

Eventually, we'll meet Tsuneyo's father, whose name will also begin with a T.

 

[Leoxsama]

That outcome would be too boring for the amount of effort that's gone into LiL. I don't see treating the situation more open mindedly as taking an apologist route either, but instead just looking at the elements and character relations that make sense in the setting.

No one in the game is only what they appear on the surface. Hidden traumas and insecurities need inspection and resolution. Since this process is more interesting, it is this that I expect is the real route of the story. That isn't necessarily people's first instinct though. As such, I'm glad Selebus found a uncensored platform, since he can actually make a story that considers interesting things instead of defaulting to the standard.

"See, I'm different from all the other pedos! I have trauma and issues. I shouldn't go to jail because I'm a "special" pedophile!"

 

[Moonflare]

>the child rapist gets all his relationships ruined and ends up alone and (hopefully) arrested
Yes, this is not only the expected route, but the correct route unless the story wants to devolve into some pedophile apologist nonsense.

Arrested for what exactly? The only crime Akira is guilty of is having sex with Maya, and that is still highly uncertain as to what exactly happened. Obviously I'm not condoning it, but the only way for Akira to get arrested for that is if Maya came forward to the police and yeah, in no way shape or form is that ever going to happen in any reality.

Everything that happens in this game is inside the resets, and therefore a gray area that blends reality with imagination. Unless there's a "reset police" there are no legal repercussions to what's happening. Of course there's a limit to speculation as there are many things that are a mystery - but given the kind of half of the story we have so far, this is a big examination of the psyque of these people through a dream-like narrative in which everyone involved is awake in a shared dream, rather than real real life. Furthermore, I don't see it as an apology discourse, in fact it's quite often a condemnation.

 

[Leoxsama]

Arrested for what exactly? The only crime Akira is guilty for is having sex with Maya, and that is still highly uncertain as to what exactly happened. Obviously I'm not condoning it, but the only way for Akira to get arrested for that is if Maya came forward to the police and yeah, in no way shape or form is that ever going to happen in any reality.

Everything that happens in this game is inside the resets, and therefore a gray area that blends reality with imagination. Unless there's a "reset police" there are no legal repercussions to what's happening. Of course there's a limit to speculation as there are many things that are a mystery - but given the kind of half of the story we have so far, this is a big examination of the psyque of these people through a dream-like narrative in which everyone involved is awake in a shared dream, rather than real real life. Furthermore, I don't see it as an apology discourse, in fact it's quite often a condemnation.

Didn't Akira rape Molly or we finna ignore that and act like some supernatural shit did it.

 

[Muk_king]

Didn't Akira rape Molly or we finna ignore that and act like some supernatural shit did it.

Was that one because of Hope or something else? I can't keep track of all these eldritch horrors.

 

[Moonflare]

Didn't Akira rape Molly or we finna ignore that and act like some supernatural shit did it.

If your interpretation of the Molly event is that there was no supernatural element to it then we have some base-level differences as to the interpretation of the game Dude was being plagued by Pareidolia masquerading as Wires, at the same time as he was being urged by an entity that was presumably Sekai, given repeated patterns of speech/thought he showed with later interactions with her.

But regardless, if Akira was to be arrested by the Molly event, that wouldn't even matter, because then he'd be arrested by at least half of the events of this game. As Sekai says, every sexual interaction he has with his students is potentially rape.

 

[Nadekai]

If your interpretation of the Molly event is that there was no supernatural element to it then we have some base-level differences as to the interpretation of the game Dude was being plagued by Pareidolia masquerading as Wires, at the same time as he was being urged by an entity that was presumably Sekai, given repeated patterns of speech/thought he showed with later interactions with her.

But regardless, if Akira was to be arrested by the Molly event, that wouldn't even matter, because then he'd be arrested by at least half of the events of this game.

... then promptly released by either Touka or the blondie (forgot her name) ...
... or reset'll just get him out or something ...

 

[Riolol]

If your interpretation of the Molly event is that there was no supernatural element to it then we have some base-level differences as to the interpretation of the game Dude was being plagued by Pareidolia masquerading as Wires, at the same time as he was being urged by an entity that was presumably Sekai, given repeated patterns of speech/thought he showed with later interactions with her.

But regardless, if Akira was to be arrested by the Molly event, that wouldn't even matter, because then he'd be arrested by at least half of the events of this game. As Sekai says, every sexual interaction he has with his students is potentially rape.

*technically rape*
Also banging your neice is very illegal

 

[Detective Dc345]

Arrested for what exactly?

What If Akira Arakawa Was Charged For His Crimes In Game????

• Fucking Haruka in the open- public lewdness
• Nude pictures from/of Ami, Kirin, Makoto, Otoha, Miku, Chika, Sana, Uta, and Noriko- ** (Don't know how the mods would take to the whole word)
• Fucking girls under the age of consent in Japan- Statutory Rape

The only girl that wouldn't catch him a case is Chika because she is 16 I believe.
There may be a slew of other charges that I missed but I wouldn't know because I'm not a lawyer.

He's exonerated because the game is set in 2020

 

[Detective Dc345]

*technically rape*
Also banging your neice is very illegal

*Double post I apologize* Believe it or not if Ami was 18 it would be totally legal for Sensei to fuck Ami.

 

[Riolol]

*Double post I apologize* Believe it or not if Ami was 18 it would be totally legal for Sensei to fuck Ami.

WTF Japan? What if she really is his daughter?

 

[Moonflare]

*technically rape*
Also banging your neice is very illegal

Yes, I meant to say potential myself, she indeed does say technically.

What If Akira Arakawa Was Charged For His Crimes In Game????

• Fucking Haruka in the open- public lewdness
• Nude pictures from/of Ami, Kirin, Makoto, Otoha, Miku, Chika, Sana, Uta, and Noriko- ** (Don't know how the mods would take to the whole word)
• Fucking girls under the age of consent in Japan- Statutory Rape

The only girl that wouldn't catch him a case is Chika because she is 16 I believe.
There may be a slew of other charges that I missed but I wouldn't know because I'm not a lawyer.

Given that the game is set in 2020 and Japan's age of consent was 13 until 2022, you can lift most of the charges - also we finally found out why the game is set in Japan and in 2020, I'm onto you, Selebus

 

[Detective Dc345]

WTF Japan? What if she really is his daughter?

If Ami is his biological daughter no. But if he were to adopt her then he can marry her a do the lewd acts to her.
(I need to to scrub my search history before I end up on the most wanted list)

 

[Moonflare]

WTF Japan? What if she really is his daughter?

There are many countries in which incest isn't a crime, it's only required that both parties are legal adults.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Yes, I meant to say potential myself, she indeed does say technically.

Given that the game is set in 2020 and Japan's age of consent was 13 until 2022, you can lift most of the charges - also we finally found out why the game is set in Japan and in 2020, I'm onto you, Selebus

Sel you sick bastard.... It's smart but its also disgusting. I praise but also despise your smarts.

 

[Muk_king]

If Ami is his biological daughter no. But if he were to adopt her then he can marry her a do the lewd acts to her.
(I need to to scrub my search history before I end up on the most wanted list)

Certain parties are pleased with this information.

Spoiler: Ami reaction

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[barglenarglezous]

Given that the game is set in 2020 and Japan's age of consent was 13 until 2022, you can lift most of the charges - also we finally found out why the game is set in Japan and in 2020, I'm onto you, Selebus

Put those charges back down.

Japan's prefectures have the right to set their own age of consent, and every single one of them has done so. The lowest of those is 16,and those have all been in place for quite some time.

So while, on paper, 13 was legal until 2022, in matter of fact it was very much illegal in every prefecture. So yeah, Akira's been committing some crimes.

 

[Moonflare]

Put those charges back down.

Japan's prefectures have the right to set their own age of consent, and every single one of them has done so. The lowest of those is 16,and those have all been in place for quite some time.

So while, on paper, 13 was legal until 2022, in matter of fact it was very much illegal in every prefecture. So yeah, Akira's been committing some crimes.

Your Honor, please disregard on the grounds of speculation:

In the event of lack of prefectural specific age of consent, the national standard will be used, as is the case of Kumon-mi, given that Selebus does not even remember Rika most of the time, much less create specific laws for the simulated city they live in.

Furthermore, the prosecution hasn't passed the japanese bar exam or has a temporary license. Neither have I, but the girl with blue eyes that told me these facts in a dream said she did.