Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[TheGoodPastor]

No one else has mentioned it so I'm just gonna say it. I think this is a younger if not teenage Yuki. Back when she was the dragon but in the gang. Flashback to when she first called Tsubasa onee chan or so.

I hope that's the case, I much prefer her existing current design personally

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: Yuki resemblance

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[Detective Dc345]

No one else has mentioned it so I'm just gonna say it. I think this is a younger if not teenage Yuki. Back when she was the dragon but in the gang. Flashback to when she first called Tsubasa onee chan or so.

Im not sure on this being a past version of Yuki. Teenage Yuki has long faded blonde hair. I would have to assume Yuki was the dragon when Yumi was a child. And we see her same design in Yumi's event Kid of the Day. This new version of Yuki is probably after Tsubasa takes her in.

Spoiler: Teen Yuki

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[gryphon100]

First point I need to hit before the paragraph, you're assuming Ami's sanity is unraveling. There was more evidence that Ami's been aware of the resets the entire time and has been orchestrating stuff from behind the scenes. The more weight you grant to Ami over how much of this she's in control of, the less room she has to be acting on an emotional basis instead of a manipulative narcissistic basis. She's stated she's got some kind of goal, and that it's had to change recently and she can't get in the way of Akira trying to sleep with everyone. Someone like that doesn't get to use any kind of emotional response reasoning for whatever pain she's slinging around.

You can act on both a manipulative narcissistic basis and an emotional basis. The emotions would just surround your own feelings instead of anyone elses. Her entire argument with Akira was filled with emotion coming from her when she realized her plan didn't work out. The feelings come from her wanting to reach whatever goal she's reaching toward and her not being able to fully grasp it. There's also a reason I said unraveling sanity instead of straight-up insanity. She's still very much in control of her reactions, being able to traverse the resets needs at minimum that, but that doesn't change the fact she's on a razors edge to falling.

Main point, I don't get how Ami glazers keep ignoring how much of a shit she's being. She wanted to hurt Niki and you want me to ignore it because Akira's also doing something wrong? She manipulated Maya's date to get Akira invested in her for a night just to stop her getting laid but Akira fucked Noriko so its fine. Maya tried standing up to Ami this time and Ami threatened to delete her entire existence from a place of assumed authority, but she's been having a hard time of..things not going her way so that's ok then. Ami doesn't like Niki and wants to get rid of her by trying to shatter every piece of attachment Niki has to Akira, and we just excuse that because Akira had a moment where he showed his true self to Noriko, asked her to stop seeing him as anything but Akira, and Noriko responded by wanting to give herself to him? (If you recall, he didn't start trying to fuck her, Noriko pushed hard into the idea. Surprise surprise Noriko isn't innocent here either)

First, I'm not an Ami glazer. I just like the way she's written and how she's assumed the mantle of Antagonist. Heck, I didn't really much care for her for the first 2-and-a-half chapters since she was just basic bitch yandere. At least she's interesting now. I read her like she's an antagonist, therefore all the times where she's being a piece of shit, I like because she's assuming her role further and thriving in it and I want to see how or why and who takes her down in the end. I don't read this story like a lot of others do where they want Akira to get with someone. I want to see Akira leave this world altogether, leave the poor girls alone, and get the help he needs before he gives in to whatever supernatural forces are pushing square blocks into square holes.

Also, doesn't change the fact that if he kept it in his pants, Ami's plans would have been dashed, Niki would have still slept in his bed, and everything would have continued on fine. Why do you think me pointing this out means I'm excusing or justifying either of Akira's or Ami's actions in other scenes which I never brought up?

Also also, uhm, Noriko's a minor. Sure, resets or whatever, but mentally she still sees herself as a freshman in highschool. As an adult, if a minor comes onto you, you don't take their advances as they're not fully in control of their hormones and make stupid decisions which they'll come to regret in the future because of them. Noriko is just being a teenager with a massive crush, and Akira preys upon that to get what he wants. That's why he told her his story, so he could manipulate her further. He's an awful person and an unreliable narrator. Do you think he actually means what he says when he says he wants himself to stop sleeping with minors when his actions prove otherwise?

Nothing about the scenes that happened this update would have changed if they happened because Niki heard Akira is famously loud during sex. He'd still have finished 5 hour fuck session with Noriko, he'd still have told Niki that it would have been unfair to Noriko to stop when she came into the room. Ami could have been innocent and things would have played out the same. But she didn't, so she isn't. Ami tried to ruin Niki's day, Ami ruined Maya's date. And it ends up with things not going her way, life is finally good.

It would have changed if he just didn't fuck Niki's sister/minor/step-brother/minor/pupil/minor. What's fair to Noriko is not fucking her and potentially creating another Akira.

Ami's been a shithead to everyone for a while now, but Akira wasn't able to do anything about it last update when he got 12 choices of "I love Ami, I can't pick anyone else". This update happens and we finally get a moment of Akira standing up and defying her, even if it ends with him and seemingly you falling for her manipulative words before her storming out of the room and giving him the silent treatment. But you know, baby steps and all.

True, it's good that Akira is starting to see Ami for what she is, but that doesn't change the fact that he could have that, and also not damaging one of his healthier and non-problematic relationships. Ami and Akira are both shit people. I'd say Akira's worse cause his fragile pathetic self is what MADE Ami like she is, and therefore is the reason she's such a piece of shit during the resets. I just don't get how people can keep defending the man when he very obviously is written to be an awful pathetic person.

 

[Vega Cifer]

I mean tbf to many people have their issues, and this family is fucked up. That is why these people, despite finding out how Akira really is, can't break away from him. It's just finally being revealed as such. Haruka was a good first sign of this. She is just as naughty, and shamelessly fantasizes about these kids. She knows all of this is going on basically(it's hotter about her but still). It's bound to happen, and this is lessons in love. We're at a point where sex doesn't happen without being caught. On one side, yeah Akira should've kept it in his pants. I don't even know why he decided to tell that secret to Noriko out of any other person?

Who knows if this secret will ever get to anyone else soon at all. It would explain why Akira still respects Sekai, to those who wonder why. If anything, I wish he had told Niki this, she would get it.

But I guess he doesn't WANT people to understand, he wants people to hate him and push him away. Yet at the same time is expecting people to still be there. Idk, I'm really just ready for Akira to better himself and at least be able to do taxes. Cause while I'm not sure if Amis outbreak was real or not, she did hit home that bro literally can't do anything himself. I wanna see redemption of his character

 

[Vega Cifer]

I don't really know what Yuki expected tbh, especially when the sexual humiliation started. She obviously was desperate, and I get why she went back, but cmon girl, did you really NOT expect that evil fuck to have you gang raped.
I mean seriously.


For me its more that it gets resolved so quickly.
Has Sara seriously come to accept this? This quickly too?

Utterly unsurprising given what just happened to her.
I can't imagine she'll get the soul shattering that a lot of rape victims do, being tough as nails as she is, but I do NOT envy her and im not surprised she's taking a more masculine approach from here out.

Don't mean to double post but yeah....from the time it started to go south (very quickly), kinda expected this. Just sad to see, and I don't think the game showed this kinda path before. Though I do recall the scene with Maya and those angels...think it was in Hope's realm or whatever. So ig not too far off for this game

 

[TheGoodPastor]

Also also, uhm, Noriko's a minor. Sure, resets or whatever, but mentally she still sees herself as a freshman in highschool. As an adult, if a minor comes onto you, you don't take their advances as they're not fully in control of their hormones and make stupid decisions which they'll come to regret in the future because of them. Noriko is just being a teenager with a massive crush, and Akira preys upon that to get what he wants.

Yeah, and as far as maturity goes I don't think you can really apply that viewpoint to Noriko regardless. For (some of) the other characters it's a morally interesting/nuanced aspect to consider but for Noriko specifically I'd argue it's a moot point - the way in which she was set to mature was already heavily impacted by the fact that Akira groomed her as a much younger child prior to the beginning of the resets.

If anything Noriko is a good counter-point to that argument because she's unwittingly had god God only knows how many years in the loop to digest and reflect on her childhood experiences with Akira and she hasn't matured past it at all - she's jealous of Maya for being molested as a child, accepting of the fact that he's preying on his own teenage students, has a completely warped view of the situation she's in and is willing to do whatever Akira wants no matter the cost or who she hurts. If anything the resets have compounded her issues.

 

[Budoop]

Don't mean to double post but yeah....from the time it started to go south (very quickly), kinda expected this. Just sad to see, and I don't think the game showed this kinda path before. Though I do recall the scene with Maya and those angels...think it was in Hope's realm or whatever. So ig not too far off for this game

I mean it kind of happens to Chika too although that depends on how real the sadness symposiums are.

 

[barglenarglezous]

What do you Bingoogus think about the "Shorts"/Upskirt "Fanservice" moment?
I kinda just don't want to think of coincidence anymore, since it was something we mentioned.

You didn't ask me, but it would have been %1000 funnier without the fourth wall breaks by Niki.

 

[Moonflare]

Updated sexual checklist 0.50, finally:

Spoiler: 0.50 version

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For the (debatable but likely) middle of the game, Akira has had sex with 18/35 characters. There are 17 left! Pretty middle of the road there, but Noriko has shifted the balance.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

For the (debatable but likely) middle of the game, Akira has had sex with 18/35 characters. There are 17 left! Pretty middle of the road there, but Noriko has shifted the balance.

Since Maya is the first (cannonically from the character cast) that Akira has had sex with, and Noriko is the first from the second half to do so, in a roundabout way, she is still playing second fiddle. Even when she wins she does so while losing in a technical way.

 

[Budoop]

She got her wish, but at what cost.

 

[Bingoogus]

Updated sexual checklist 0.50, finally:

Spoiler: 0.50 version

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For the (debatable but likely) middle of the game, Akira has had sex with 18/35 characters. There are 17 left! Pretty middle of the road there, but Noriko has shifted the balance.

I don't remember Tsuneyo getting kissed either... nor do i remember Yasu having a sexual encounter... all sorts of weird shit comes to mind for her but the closest was when HOPE controlled her and ordered Akira to fuck her...

 

[Visadsa]

Does the Nozomu being gay for Akira theory still stand , chat?

 

[TheGoodPastor]

I don't remember Tsuneyo getting kissed either... nor do i remember Yasu having a sexual encounter... all sorts of weird shit comes to mind for her but the closest was when HOPE controlled her and ordered Akira to fuck her...

He touched her nipple and she came during that encounter, so that'll be why Yasu's up there I'd assume.

The kiss with Tsuneyo is in 'Yamato Nadeshiko' and is also seemingly the result of possession. It leads into 'WORMGOD54' where we see the big white sterile room upstairs.

Spoiler: the kiss

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Spoiler: shout out to my boy WORMGOD54

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Edit: Correction, he just touches her breast, no nipple play. When Akira actually fucks her she may well cum to death.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

Spoiler: 0.51 Preview

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[Bingoogus]

He touched her nipple and she came during that encounter, so that'll be why Yasu's up there I'd assume.

I don't really think that scene should count since she was possessed... if she's not conscious and aware than it's just her meatsack that had an encounter, not Yasu herself...

 

[TheGoodPastor]

I tend to agree, but it ain't my list ;p

If it helps she did also seem to almost cum in front of Touka and Sensei from breathing too heavily and she wasn't possessed there

Yasu's such a freak, I love her

 

[Riolol]

Spoiler: 0.51 Preview

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Man that preview really highlights how creepy Sensei is. Miku looks adorable as always.

 

[Fire Lord Zuko]

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