Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

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I can tell you


This is kind of interesting, because Nodoka states that she came from nothing. On the other hand she goes pretty hyper metaphorical about it, stating Akira should imagine her as something like an amoeba or tardigrade.
And now i wonder if Nodoka really has a mother.

All tied to the Upside Down House here.

I've been going through nodoka events and this seems relevent to nodoka's 'came from nothing'

Spoiler: came from nothing

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it makes it sound like she was born the same way 'sensei' was at the beginning of this game
just to add to this and to further disturb everyone
here are some quotes that have lead me to believe nodoka probably sexually abuses her mother who i now think is basically a vegetable
this is the establishing set up

Spoiler: nodoka's mom

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this next one is from a scene where she is washing makoto's hair in the showers just before the yumi thing, the entire conversation is very sexually charged and implies nodoka washes other peoples hair alot, just considering the context of how often this would be possible for a teen girl and she takes care of her 'sick' mom... conecting dots makes me think it is her mom she has washed before. there is not much reason to do so unless her mom can't do it do to her sickness... thus i think she might be a vegetable. why i think she sexually abuses her vegetable mother... she is the 'incest girl' and very pro lesbian contact afterall and she seems to be going through the exact same thing sensei is going through if her oblique narration is any indication

Spoiler: good at washing hair

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(why bother drawing attention to this , its not something we can see she is great at, selebus had to sit there and go 'yeah nodoka's is an expert at washing hair to the point other people she is washing have to take note of it')

I'm also kind of pissed cause the narrator or sensei says futaba doesn't have lavender colored hair when it is the classic color of lavender rather than the modern color of it...

Spoiler: real lavender is blue-indigo damn it

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I have not finished my futaba/nodoka/ upside down house hunt though, do a little bit at a time... its boring

 

[DeSkel15]

I've been going through nodoka events and this seems relevent to nodoka's 'came from nothing'
also this is really good shit I highly suggest people read these spoilers and images

Spoiler: came from nothing

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it makes it sound like she was born the same way 'sensei' was at the beginning of this game
just to add to this and to further disturb everyone
here are some quotes that have lead me to believe nodoka probably sexually abuses her mother who i now think is basically a vegetable
this is the establishing set up

Spoiler: nodoka's mom

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this next one is from a scene where she is washing makoto's hair in the showers just before the yumi thing, the entire conversation is very sexually charged and implies nodoka washes other peoples hair alot, just considering the context of how often this would be possible for a teen girl and she takes care of her 'sick' mom... conecting dots makes me think it is her mom she has washed before. there is not much reason to do so unless her mom can't do it do to her sickness... thus i think she might be a vegetable. why i think she sexually abuses her vegetable mother... she is the 'incest girl' and very pro lesbian contact afterall and she seems to be going through the exact same thing sensei is going through if her oblique narration is any indication

Spoiler: good at washing hair

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I'm also kind of pissed cause the narrator or sensei says futaba doesn't have lavender colored hair when it is the classic color of lavender rather than the modern color of it...

Spoiler: real lavender is blue damn it

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I have not finished my futaba/nodoka/ upside down house hunt though

I sincerely hope she isn't molesting her mother, but seeing as how she seems to prefer a challenge sexually, and I can't recall her mentioning mother daughter Incest, (mostly just father daughter), I doubt that's something that's going on. She probably just has to bathe her mother and stuff, due to what's wrong with her. Then again who knows with this game.

I also think Nodoka is aware of the resets due to the inconsistencies in her memories, and she considers memories from past resets as belonging to other Nodokas, not herself. Albeit, if she does get born again like Sensei, that would be really interesting, and that "wall" catch is interesting, hadn't put that together.

 

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I sincerely hope she isn't molesting her mother, but seeing as how she seems to prefer a challenge sexually, and I can't recall her mentioning mother daughter Incest, (mostly just father daughter), I doubt that's something that's going on. She probably just has to bathe her mother and stuff, due to what's wrong with her. Then again who knows with this game.

I also think Nodoka is aware of the resets due to the inconsistencies in her memories, and she considers memories from past resets as belonging to other Nodokas, not herself. Albeit, if she does get born again like Sensei, that would be really interesting, and that "wall" catch is interesting, hadn't put that together.

fair enough, I'm at least fairly confident her mom is essentially a vegetable
her fucking her mom is based solely on a combination of her personality, love of incest, love of yuri, what i naturally expect her to do in the presence of any naked female let alone most clothed ones, and the fact that sensei upon losing all sense of identity proceeds to try to fuck everything regardless of relations and nodoka seems to be getting her mind/personality wiped and then rebuilding herself as well.
5 points of coincidental connection that overlap
edit:
oh and why i think she specifically is going through the same thing as sensei is because she has to 'collect and dissect' her other selves.... which is what we are doing... right now... but with sensei
she also rants about mirrors and reflections in that same scene... could be a metaphor that her and sensei are mirror images of each other in terms of their situations but meh

 

[BlackDays]

I think Nodoka actually meant "Nothing" more in the poor sense. Like she grew up poor with a disabled mother, with virtually nothing really to her name. It's probably why she's so protective, independent, and deliberate, and has no remorse for Yumi just because she's "had it rough".

She likely even became as smart as she is, out of necessity.

Nodoka also seems to be one of the few girls who don't have someone taking care of them. Then again, could be wrong. Can't recall if she's mentioned having a father in her life.

Chika and Nodoka are rather similar now that I think about it.

It's from Nodoka's: Amoeba (Incrontrovertible Peculiarity)

Akira "As in...you were poor?"
Nodoka "Perhaps it’s better if I don’t attempt to explain things at all. It’ll only make me appear insane."

Maybe it's her insane way to describe growing up poor.
But maybe she's pointing to something different.

Espacially with the:
Nodoka "What if someone has been somewhere else but everyone thinks they’re crazy and no one believes them because the idea of another world layered on top of this one is absurd? It’s insane. It’s impossible."

Maybe Nodoka has a mother in Kumonmi, a life, some conections.
But maybe Nodoka comes from the Upside Down House. Maybe a few of Kumonmi inhabitants do.
And Nodoka feels a connection to that place, and remembers it.

The Upside Down House is said to be on the edge of the universe, what ever universe means in that context (could just be Kumonmi).
And that could also mean that it's on top of it, or, that Kumonmi originates from the Upside Down House.
Maybe it really is a game, played by the inhabitants of the Upside Down House, and everyone wants the story to go their way, hence the "gods".
And some got lost in the story, like for example Nodoka (who might be in fact, Nozomu).

It would really be some badass 4th wall breaking everything considered.
But i think it could fit.

I'd rather have explained that train of thought seperatly, but it is as it is.

 

[BlackDays]

I sincerely hope she isn't molesting her mother, but seeing as how she seems to prefer a challenge sexually, and I can't recall her mentioning mother daughter Incest, (mostly just father daughter), I doubt that's something that's going on. She probably just has to bathe her mother and stuff, due to what's wrong with her. Then again who knows with this game.

I also think Nodoka is aware of the resets due to the inconsistencies in her memories, and she considers memories from past resets as belonging to other Nodokas, not herself. Albeit, if she does get born again like Sensei, that would be really interesting, and that "wall" catch is interesting, hadn't put that together.

Sara's: "Halfway Down the Wishing Well" , narrated by Akira or someone/thing else.
"If I fuck another mommy Mommy frowns and says I’m not allowed."

I guess someone did fuck his mommy, somewhere.

 

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Sara's: "Halfway Down the Wishing Well" , narrated by Akira or someone/thing else.
"If I fuck another mommy Mommy frowns and says I’m not allowed."

I guess someone did fuck his mommy, somewhere.

I'm going to have to rewatch that cause from context i cant see how that relates to nodoka molesting her mom
edit:
yeah poem was about dicking down a mom
poem did make me think of the upside down house....
which just makes me think i am remembering the implied childhood home of akira was said house
i have no confidence on that though till i find the event i think I am recalling

 

[k1n5l4y3r]

Does anyone know what to type in Noriko's event "I really want to stay at your house"?

Have you tried reading the prompt?

 

[DeSkel15]

It's from Nodoka's: Amoeba (Incrontrovertible Peculiarity)

Akira "As in...you were poor?"
Nodoka "Perhaps it’s better if I don’t attempt to explain things at all. It’ll only make me appear insane."

Maybe it's her insane way to describe growing up poor.
But maybe she's pointing to something different.

Espacially with the:
Nodoka "What if someone has been somewhere else but everyone thinks they’re crazy and no one believes them because the idea of another world layered on top of this one is absurd? It’s insane. It’s impossible."

Maybe Nodoka has a mother in Kumonmi, a life, some conections.
But maybe Nodoka comes from the Upside Down House. Maybe a few of Kumonmi inhabitants do.
And Nodoka feels a connection to that place, and remembers it.

The Upside Down House is said to be on the edge of the universe, what ever universe means in that context (could just be Kumonmi).
And that could also mean that it's on top of it, or, that Kumonmi originates from the Upside Down House.
Maybe it really is a game, played by the inhabitants of the Upside Down House, and everyone wants the story to go their way, hence the "gods".
And some got lost in the story, like for example Nodoka (which might be in fact, Nozomu).

It would really be some badass 4th wall breaking everything considered.
But i think it could fit.

I'd rather have explained that train of thought seperatly, but it is as it is.

Actually to add on to the whole Upside Down House thing, it was mentioned in the "Swimming with Sharks" event that Nodoka is from the "border" of Kumon-mi:

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It could be nothing, but border of Kumon-mi and the edge of the universe could be seen as the same thing in certain contexts.

 

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Actually to add on to the whole Upside Down House thing, it was mentioned in the "Swimming with Sharks" event that Nodoka is from the "border" of Kumon-mi:

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It could be nothing, but border of Kumon-mi and the edge of the universe could be seen as the same thing in certain contexts.

it was mentioned more than once, futaba tells you i think like twice... I imagine her house in on the wall and that is near where they wrote their names cause futaba also says she cant recall if she could find it again

 

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oh while looking through nodoka events...
I've seen some interesting 'buried beneath your feet' things


and one is buried beneath Christs feet
a crucifix is a common burial marker as well
ami's parents dont seem to have one though...thought it was just a giant stone with engraving

when selebus wants to spell things with images he puts a crucifix in for a t everytime he does his flashing images thing

either way i think what ever it is, might be buried under a crucifix
have we seen one in game at any point... disregarding the telephone poles. is there one in the church?

 

[Sensei2000]

Just started playing and i'm already having existencial crisis looking at mc's eyes and this first h scene

 

[hth2m1]

Espacially with the:
Nodoka "What if someone has been somewhere else but everyone thinks they’re crazy and no one believes them because the idea of another world layered on top of this one is absurd? It’s insane. It’s impossible."

I thought she might be referring to the event where she and Akira went outside the wall with that line, with the implication being that outside the wall is another world (which seems painfully obvious at this point)

 

[DeSkel15]

oh while looking through nodoka events...
I've seen some interesting 'buried beneath your feet' things
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and one is buried beneath Christs feet
a crucifix is a common burial marker as well
ami's parents dont seem to have one though...thought it was just a giant stone with engraving

when selebus wants to spell things with images he puts a crucifix in for a t everytime he does his flashing images thing

either way i think what ever it is, might be buried under a crucifix
have we seen one in game at any point... disregarding the telephone poles. is there one in the church?

There's some crosses in Yasu's church:

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but the crosses that tend to stick out are those that show up in Happy Events:

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A picture of Jesus crucified also shows up in a few Happy Events if I recall. Can't recall an actual Crucifix showing up unless you consider "The letter T" happy event as showing one. Replacing Jesus with Maya.

 

[barglenarglezous]

Can't recall an actual Crucifix showing up unless you consider "The letter T" happy event as showing one. Replacing Jesus with Maya.

It is common for a crucifix to show up during flashing images. There was one in the most recent update.

 

[BlackDays]

I really thought that Sekai was wearing a cross at least somewhere, specifically in the Kindergarden event or the hallway.
But i looked through what i think were all of her images, and nothing.

So if anyone knows a scene where she does wear one, please let me know.

Besides that at least she is talking a couple of times about god and religion, so there is some connection.

 

[FireCazador]

It's Japan dude, different planet, swords are sacred there.


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So sick if wanting to know what's in that fucking box, i've heard every theory, i want to KNOW.

Realistic guess: Some memories or shit from other resets about Sensei or her old life

More exiting but less posible: A lot of porn with weird fetishes or old porn footages with sensei

Also I WANT TO KNOW TOO

 

[barglenarglezous]

I can't wait until we open Maya's boxes and it's full of Gwenneth Paltrow's severed heads.

Yes, plural. She collects one every time the world reboots. It's how she keeps count.

 

[FireCazador]

Just started playing and i'm already having existencial crisis looking at mc's eyes and this first h scene

Enjoy and get ready for the coming things. Also welcome to the crazy theory club where the most 2 important theories are:
Sensei have a large penis
And sex make pee pee feel good.

 

[Deleted member 2223621]

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There's some crosses in Yasu's church:

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but the crosses that tend to stick out are those that show up in Happy Events:

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A picture of Jesus crucified also shows up in a few Happy Events if I recall. Can't recall an actual Crucifix showing up unless you consider "The letter T" happy event as showing one. Replacing Jesus with Maya.

Oh wow... that looks like a jackpot
The two crosses in the happy event seem to be the same ones in the church.
nice find
it at least solidly connects the happy event to the church

as for most of the other crosses in the happy events, those are the pictures that generally selly uses to spell things rather than in game landmarks
I'm not ever sure if the real life photos are even interactable with akira, I took them as symbolism
the clock based reliquary in front of the alter thing is also perfectly positioned to block the view of anything hanging from the ceiling... interesting

wait
is yasu's church in the old district
must of forgot that.
neat

 

[DeSkel15]

...
Oh wow... that looks like a jackpot
The two crosses in the happy event seem to be the same ones in the church.
nice find
it at least solidly connects the happy event to the church

as for most of the other crosses in the happy events, those are the pictures that generally selly uses to spell things rather than in game landmarks
I'm not ever sure if the real life photos are even interactable with akira, I took them as symbolism
the clock based reliquary in front of the alter thing is also perfectly positioned to block the view of anything hanging from the ceiling... interesting

wait
is yasu's church in the old district
must of forgot that.
neat

Actually, in Yasu's "Transference", Yasu's church seems to be in the "Urban District":

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Just a "weird, slummy part" of it.

I do wonder if Yasu reading The Library and mentioning what Sensei was thinking earlier (Fly Eggs) might mean there's some connection to Nao and the Wishing Well, which is also called the Library, in "Mother's Milk" though. Could be nothing.