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Has there been any reveals about the significance of the letter T? It comes up quite a lot. I think i remember it being the first letter of someone Sensei was an old friend, but later on he seems to hate that latter possibly due to association with that person. What with the whole... people's names not actually being the names Sensei sees them as, it's hard to guess who it might be, but with the naming convention my only guess would be possibly Tsuneyo's father?
 

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Has there been any reveals about the significance of the letter T? It comes up quite a lot. I think i remember it being the first letter of someone Sensei was an old friend, but later on he seems to hate that latter possibly due to association with that person. What with the whole... people's names not actually being the names Sensei sees them as, it's hard to guess who it might be, but with the naming convention my only guess would be possibly Tsuneyo's father?
I always figured it was referring to Sekai, before Sensei remembered her properly she always appeared as "Teacher", and in the ABC song that plays in Something Everyone Knows and Ignores, the letter T word is censored but based on the context it would make sense for it to be "teacher".
 

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I always figured it was referring to Sekai, before Sensei remembered her properly she always appeared as "Teacher", and in the ABC song that plays in Something Everyone Knows and Ignores, the letter T word is censored but based on the context it would make sense for it to be "teacher".
Ah, that does make a lot of sense. It didn't even cross my mind that the word might not even be a name directly. Thanks!
 
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Did you use the guide mod? If you did you need to install it to use your saves.
i do indeed. the error i get is

Code:
I'm sorry, but errors were detected in your script. Please correct the
errors listed below, and try again.

File "game/script.rpy", line 1: expected statement.
    79 6F 75 20 77 6F 75 6C 64 6E 27 74 20 64 6F 77 6E 6C 6F 61 64 20 61 20 63 61 72 2E 2E 2E
 

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i do indeed. the error i get is

Code:
I'm sorry, but errors were detected in your script. Please correct the
errors listed below, and try again.

File "game/script.rpy", line 1: expected statement.
    79 6F 75 20 77 6F 75 6C 64 6E 27 74 20 64 6F 77 6E 6C 6F 61 64 20 61 20 63 61 72 2E 2E 2E
Translating the Hexadecimal code suggests you got hit with the DRM wiping your saves. Did you download and add the care packages to the game from here without clearing the DRM as instructed in the OP? Also the DRM wipe needs to be done after every update.

FYI the Hexadecimal code translates as 'you wouldn't download a car...'
 

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There's also stuff like Noriko implying she was tutored since she was 6
She couldn't have been tutored since six, since Sensei left Niki ~eight years ago, when Noriko was 8-9. Which, well, doesn't leave a lot of time for Noriko to be accepted back into Sensei's life, spend some time being tutored mostly on her own, then have Maya appear, them and Sensei spending time together and the disappearance if said disappearance happened almost five years ago.

Still, it's something to consider.
 

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Anyone know why Sensei's brother would be mad at Sensei for exclaiming this? Seems like Ami was old enough or that it left enough impressions at the time for her to bring it up. This from Chapter 1 Event;

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Can't really think up of anything other than googling "symbolism and meaning of Cherry Blossoms." Seems like a weird thing to get 'really angry' about. Nozomu (his name?) and Sekai were both 'married/together' and that the age gap was pretty huge (i think?) between Sekai and Sensei to when she started doing her funny business with Sensei. Is it an immature thing to get angry about? Jealousy? Or just information eventually gonna be revealed?

I don't really want to assume anything like Nozomu had a feeling of him being cucked by his younger brother or something else entirely. I guess the other thing being the choice of wording on Ami's side and just me having tunnel vision to a piece of dialogue with not that much significance.
 

DeSkel15

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She couldn't have been tutored since six, since Sensei left Niki ~eight years ago, when Noriko was 8-9. Which, well, doesn't leave a lot of time for Noriko to be accepted back into Sensei's life, spend some time being tutored mostly on her own, then have Maya appear, them and Sensei spending time together and the disappearance if said disappearance happened almost five years ago.

Still, it's something to consider.
Not necessarily. The accident isn't exactly 8 years ago. Niki said last 8 years:
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and recently seemed to compare it to almost a decade:
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So, It's likely close to 9 years ago. (It'd explain why Ami was apparently seven):
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We don't have an actual date for the accident, even if I do think it's likely the day they visit the graves, or a date where he actually ghosted Niki.

Then there's how Noriko has likely recently became 16, and could have been close to 7 when she was actually tutored. Still, technically 6 though.

We aren't given specific dates for the tutoring (like most things), so the time period is hard to place.

We're also not explicitly told Sensei was a tutor only after the accident or after leaving Niki, as far as I can recall, so he could have started tutoring Noriko just before the accident happened, then resumed it after a break. Based off how Niki was the one who told her family about Sensei's tutoring:
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It seems to be a thing he was doing before he started ghosting her.

Also Noriko didn't really need to be accepted back into Sensei's life. Like she said:
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In theory, the accident actually brought them closer together soon after it separated him from her sister. Then a short time later, Maya showed up.

Of course, this is all estimation. The actual timeline for these events is purposely murky, and a lot happened.
 

DeSkel15

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Anyone know why Sensei's brother would be mad at Sensei for exclaiming this? Seems like Ami was old enough or that it left enough impressions at the time for her to bring it up. This from Chapter 1 Event;

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Can't really think up of anything other than googling "symbolism and meaning of Cherry Blossoms." Seems like a weird thing to get 'really angry' about. Nozomu (his name?) and Sekai were both 'married/together' and that the age gap was pretty huge (i think?) between Sekai and Sensei to when she started doing her funny business with Sensei. Is it an immature thing to get angry about? Jealousy? Or just information eventually gonna be revealed?

I don't really want to assume anything like Nozomu had a feeling of him being cucked by his younger brother or something else entirely. I guess the other thing being the choice of wording on Ami's side and just me having tunnel vision to a piece of dialogue with not that much significance.
Sensei seemed to consistently bring up what his brother's wife smelled like, around his brother.

It implies that Sensei spent a lot of time with Sekai (enough to recognize her scent), and would fantasize about her in front of her husband. I definitely think it was likely a jealousy thing. The "cherry blossom" part is likely only important because that was Sekai's scent.
 

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Anyone know why Sensei's brother would be mad at Sensei for exclaiming this? Seems like Ami was old enough or that it left enough impressions at the time for her to bring it up. This from Chapter 1 Event;

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Can't really think up of anything other than googling "symbolism and meaning of Cherry Blossoms." Seems like a weird thing to get 'really angry' about. Nozomu (his name?) and Sekai were both 'married/together' and that the age gap was pretty huge (i think?) between Sekai and Sensei to when she started doing her funny business with Sensei. Is it an immature thing to get angry about? Jealousy? Or just information eventually gonna be revealed?

I don't really want to assume anything like Nozomu had a feeling of him being cucked by his younger brother or something else entirely. I guess the other thing being the choice of wording on Ami's side and just me having tunnel vision to a piece of dialogue with not that much significance.
I mean I'd be some level of angry too if my little brother sniffed my wife from time to time and had the audacity to actually tell me about his afterthought, no matter how little the rascal is.
 

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Anyone know why Sensei's brother would be mad at Sensei for exclaiming this? Seems like Ami was old enough or that it left enough impressions at the time for her to bring it up. This from Chapter 1 Event;

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Can't really think up of anything other than googling "symbolism and meaning of Cherry Blossoms." Seems like a weird thing to get 'really angry' about. Nozomu (his name?) and Sekai were both 'married/together' and that the age gap was pretty huge (i think?) between Sekai and Sensei to when she started doing her funny business with Sensei. Is it an immature thing to get angry about? Jealousy? Or just information eventually gonna be revealed?

I don't really want to assume anything like Nozomu had a feeling of him being cucked by his younger brother or something else entirely. I guess the other thing being the choice of wording on Ami's side and just me having tunnel vision to a piece of dialogue with not that much significance.
When Ami was old enough to pick up on this, Akira would have been late teens or early twenties. That's old enough for him to be a genuine threat. Also, Akira and Sekai's relationship had been going on for about ten years, Nozomu might have noticed enough by this point to at least be suspicious.
 

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As I recall Akira and Niki were neighbors, childhood friends so even tho he knew Noriko since she was younger than 6 he didn't tutor her until after the accident, but he was tutoring Niki while they "dated".

About Nozomu being angry, my theory is that Nozomu didn't really love Sekai; Akira got her pregnant and Nozomu was "forced" to marry her because of religious family, so he knew his lil bro was tapping that. Bonus points if Ami already knows she is his daughter because she saw her mom things in the attic.
 

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About Nozomu being angry, my theory is that Nozomu didn't really love Sekai; Akira got her pregnant and Nozomu was "forced" to marry her because of religious family, so he knew his lil bro was tapping that. Bonus points if Ami already knows she is his daughter because she saw her mom things in the attic.
Akira's family, or even just Nozomu, finding out that Sekai was raping him and deciding to marry her into the family anyway would be a new level of fucked up. That said, if Nozomu knew that for sure I don't think he'd let Akira keep hanging out with Sekai at all.
There is a puzzle guide in the first page man.
How in the world are people supposed to find this? If only there was some sort of colored directional symbol that could point them to it. Alas.
 

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Akira's family, or even just Nozomu, finding out that Sekai was raping him and deciding to marry her into the family anyway would be a new level of fucked up. That said, if Nozomu knew that for sure I don't think he'd let Akira keep hanging out with Sekai at all.

How in the world are people supposed to find this? If only there was some sort of colored directional symbol that could point them to it. Alas.
Meh he was 16 and though he loved her, she was probably in her 20s and she "loved" him too, it's not uncommon for people those ages to have something, but she couldn't marry a minor and seens she was deeply religious probably her family was too which may have pressured her to marry so Nozomu was the best beard to hide behind.
Sekai had a thing for lies and manipulation, might even had sex with Nozomu to trick him into believing the child is his, as we know (through a Happy Event) Akira heard her having sex with Nozomu.
 

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Do we know the exact date when Sekai and Nozomu died btw? I can't remember it but I know it has to be at least after Maya's birthday.
If you are asking about the exact month/date/year of the accident, I don't think there is a solid answer yet.

---major randomly connecting dots ahead---

Assuming O World takes place on their death anniversary, this means that date is somewhere in the warmer season. O World also takes place after Couple's Discount, which is on Ami's birthday 8/31 (a rare event which the timestamp is certain).
This means the actual date would be after 8/31 but before the weather gets cold (let's say before 10/31 because that's where the characters mentioned the drop in temperature).


Then if the day requirement of an event is something that can be used as valid date approximation (big assumption here): Couple's Discount is day >=43 while O World is >=60 (the script name of O World is day60 as well); 8/31 + 17 days is 9/17, but take this with a grain of salt.

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Plus it's a little hard to answer if a date is before or after another date (unless you're just asking about the chronological order, then their death took place after Maya's birth for sure)
 
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