Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[fdsasdf_p]

Some food for thought
During Ami's delirium in Della, she said something that doesn't simply come from trapping in bedtime story hallucination and/or a fit of anger.

Why haven't you kept playing BREED YOUR NIECE MINI GAME?!?!?!
Ami has always been a prime suspect of time fuckery-related matters or basically anything unexplainable, but it also has always been hard to really tell how much she knows and/or how much she's involved. This time, however, these lines aren't delivered during resets, happy events, or dreamy sequences to confuse or shock players; she delivers these words diegetically to Sensei.

So, does she in fact know A LOT MORE than she lets on? Does she also know about the reincarnation, but have an opinion on the complete opposite side of Maya?

Or, Is Ami during Della in a god-induced blackout and something other than Ami was scolding us through Ami?

Or, since Ami recites parts of conversation she and Sensei had back in A New You, perhaps after finding out "his brain being stupid" and how similar the situation was compared to a manga or a game, Ami from that point forward started treating things really like a game (a porn game no less) and wished Sensei to do the same so that her envisioned future of being with her uncle is no longer impossible?

Personally, I think Ami subjectively wanting Sensei to treat this like a game so that she has a chance to end with him is the most straightforward take. But things are a lot spicier, much more interesting, and still explainable if she really knows more. Especially, I think getting Ami pregnant "should" have some otherworldly effects solely because events like Am I Awake exist, as if that event foreshadows what "her epilogue" looks like, or perhaps foreshadows how all the other Senseis who immediately slept with Ami ended.

 

[Anonym321]

Does someone know what's melody that plays during Ami event callled?

 

[Kitty Hawk]

Does someone know what's melody that plays during Ami event callled?

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[Anonym321]

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Thanks but i meant the one during her and Sensei dialogue

 

[Bingoogus]

Thanks but i meant the one during her and Sensei dialogue

Oh of course, that totally narrows it down...

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Thanks but i meant the one during her and Sensei dialogue

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This one then? (assuming you're talking about the newest update)

 

[dolard]

No lust event Ô-õ!!!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!

 

[Anonym321]

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This one then? (assuming you're talking about the newest update)

Yeah, this one

 

[Squalicorax]

So, does she in fact know A LOT MORE than she lets on? Does she also know about the reincarnation, but have an opinion on the complete opposite side of Maya?

Personally? I think she knows everything. Almost literally. I think she understands everything more than Maya ever has. It's clear she knows about the reset and it's nuances, as shown in that one even where she blatantly pretends to do the dialogue loop thing after being called on it. I think the only gaps in her understanding come from her not having access to stuff only sensei knows and sees, like the gods, Sekai, etc. Oh and she probably doesn't know the rules about how Maya couldn't (or can't?) get closer to sensei.
I think the reason she gets murderous whenever Maya tried to clue her in on the resets in the past was to maintain her perfect paradise that is the timeloop, and the fact she never killed Maya in one of those outbursts seems like a pretty clear warning to me.

Slightly more out on a limb: I think Ami is one of the keys to understanding, and ending, the resets, and I think she knows that too. My grand unified theory is that Sensei killed himself by jumping off the roof, and the loop was created when Maya, in an act of desperation, prayed for him back and/or things to go back to normal, and the supernatural forces that have always been in Kumon Mi (As I think is pretty definitively shown with Sara and Yasu. No I don't think they were just schizophrenic before the loops, the game goes out of it's way to show the opposite actually) granted her wish in a very Monkey's paw sort of way, hence the Vega parable she tells during the festival date. And I think Ami knows the loops revolve around Maya and Sensei, which is probably another source of murderous rage and how broken she is in general.

 

[DeSkel15]

If that's the case I wonder what will she do after realizing Sensei is going to be ignoring her and preventing any 1:1 situations with her.
She could probably chase and corner him at his office during his advisor hours, but who knows when he is coming back to school

Also New Maya might still think she is the only one right? What will be her reaction after finding out half the class is fucking Sensei?
Old Maya "matured" through hundred of centuries, but New(Pre-timeloop) Maya always came across as...very obssesive, yandere type. We only saw glimpses of it (mostly through interactions with Noriko). What she did to Noriko wasn't any different from what Ami was trying to do this/last update.

Can't wait to see what happens with that specifically.

Frankly, I'm a little worried about what might happen when New Maya finds out Sensei is cheating on her.

Maya Prime implied she'd kill, and probably has, to keep Sensei as hers:

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Noriko who hadn't really seen Maya in years seemed to know Maya would hurt anyone to keep Sensei wrapped around her finger:

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And so far, the plot has more or less gone out of it's way to keep her in the dark. Having New Maya leave before Ami showed Chika her nudes on Sensei's phone, and it doesn't seem like Ayane has mentioned she or Makoto are actually fucking Maya's boyfriend yet, if she'd even believe them.

Things could get very bad, especially if Maya's Psycho Ami stuff, turns out to be about her self.

 

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[JelF547]

Frankly, I'm a little worried about what might happen when New Maya finds out Sensei is cheating on her.

Maya Prime implied she'd kill, and probably has, to keep Sensei as hers:

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Noriko who hadn't really seen Maya in years seemed to know Maya would hurt anyone to keep Sensei wrapped around her finger:

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And so far, the plot has more or less gone out of it's way to keep her in the dark. Having New Maya leave before Ami showed Chika her nudes on Sensei's phone, and it doesn't seem like Ayane has mentioned she or Makoto are actually fucking Maya's boyfriend yet, if she'd even believe them.

Things could get very bad, especially if Maya's Psycho Ami stuff, turns out to be about her self.

Itis funny that Ami and Maya's friendship could be started from having common interests like homicide. It might also explain why didn't they kill each other yet, especialy why haven't Maya did anything to reach Sensei on her own during 0.36. Like mutual respect or something

 

[DeSkel15]

Some food for thought
During Ami's delirium in Della, she said something that doesn't simply come from trapping in bedtime story hallucination and/or a fit of anger.
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Why haven't you kept playing BREED YOUR NIECE MINI GAME?!?!?!
Ami has always been a prime suspect of time fuckery-related matters or basically anything unexplainable, but it also has always been hard to really tell how much she knows and/or how much she's involved. This time, however, these lines aren't delivered during resets, happy events, or dreamy sequences to confuse or shock players; she delivers these words diegetically to Sensei.

So, does she in fact know A LOT MORE than she lets on? Does she also know about the reincarnation, but have an opinion on the complete opposite side of Maya?

Or, Is Ami during Della in a god-induced blackout and something other than Ami was scolding us through Ami?

Or, since Ami recites parts of conversation she and Sensei had back in A New You, perhaps after finding out "his brain being stupid" and how similar the situation was compared to a manga or a game, Ami from that point forward started treating things really like a game (a porn game no less) and wished Sensei to do the same so that her envisioned future of being with her uncle is no longer impossible?

Personally, I think Ami subjectively wanting Sensei to treat this like a game so that she has a chance to end with him is the most straightforward take. But things are a lot spicier, much more interesting, and still explainable if she really knows more. Especially, I think getting Ami pregnant "should" have some otherworldly effects solely because events like Am I Awake exist, as if that event foreshadows what "her epilogue" looks like, or perhaps foreshadows how all the other Senseis who immediately slept with Ami ended.

Based off how Ami uncontrollably repeats things from Chapter 1 in Chapter 4:

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I think it's far more likely that like how Tsuneyo, Makoto, and other girls tend to vaguely recall things they shouldn't, Ami does and has been as well. She probably recalls saying these exact words hundreds of thousands of times to hundreds of thousands of Sensei's somehow.

She's also mentioned stuff like Ayane isn't supposed to be here:

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Like an NPC suddenly moving where they shouldn't.

Considering how broken Ami is, she's probably just assumed this messed up world was actually a video game, just like how Chapter 1 Sensei treated everything like a game. Characters in a video game acting different all of a sudden has to be a little worrying for her.

Even Makoto seems to be thinking the same thing lately, and so like with most games, they just assumed this game has a specific goal. Being with Sensei.

Although, keep in mind that Ami mentioned talking with God this update:

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And it's been established that she's been hearing voices for who knows how long:

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So, on top of being mentally ill, orphaned and traumatized, surrounded by shitty friends and a pathetic uncle, and trapped in some kind of chronoprison where she gets apparently butchered and her memories screwed with, sometimes she may have actual beings whispering things into her ears.

 

[Squalicorax]

Frankly, I'm a little worried about what might happen when New Maya finds out Sensei is cheating on her.

Maya Prime implied she'd kill, and probably has, to keep Sensei as hers:

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Noriko who hadn't really seen Maya in years seemed to know Maya would hurt anyone to keep Sensei wrapped around her finger:

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And so far, the plot has more or less gone out of it's way to keep her in the dark. Having New Maya leave before Ami showed Chika her nudes on Sensei's phone, and it doesn't seem like Ayane has mentioned she or Makoto are actually fucking Maya's boyfriend yet, if she'd even believe them.

Things could get very bad, especially if Maya's Psycho Ami stuff, turns out to be about her self.

My personal, probably biased opinion; I highly doubt Maya Prime was that psycho. She was definitely controlling, manipulative and probably a little crazier on the inside than she let on, but I doubt she was ever slasher yandere level, at least at the point we knew her, she was around for millions of years and went through some shit, she could've had some phases.

And I think it's totally fair to read her conversation with Ayane being somewhat deceitful, but I actually believe her when she says she only killed when she absolutely had to. If she's on the edge of killing everyone she sees as a threat to sensei, shouldn't she have killed Ami and Noriko? She had fully legitimate reasons to think Noriko would get his mind wiped (and she did wind up getting him to remember something, so her fears were justified, even if she was wrong about the result) but instead she went out of her way to talk to sensei about it and backed off when he told her to. And if psycho Ami killed someone, that would have done a number on Sensei, but Maya didn't touch her either.

But new Maya is a different story. I honestly still doubt she's a physical danger, but when Noriko says Maya will hurt anyone in her way, I doubt that's how she meant it. I think Maya is more in the sphere of Nodoka fucked up. If things go in that direction, I expect blackmail and really scummy manipulation.

 

[zairos2]

Can anyone share your savegame from 0.36.0 ?
Im currently working out of town and my save game is in my PC back home and will back in a month
Want to do 0.37.0 update

 

[DeSkel15]

Itis funny that Ami and Maya's friendship could be started from having common interests like homicide. It might also explain why didn't they kill each other yet, especialy why haven't Maya did anything to reach Sensei on her own during 0.36. Like mutual respect or something

Well, there is a major difference. Ami seems to be just talk, and is Sensei's caretaker.

Maya on the other hand, isn't just talk and she'd have no idea how to take care of Sensei, besides trying to fuck him back to life again.

New Maya probably just realized she'd need Ami to keep Sensei alive, if they were going to continue their relationship, and she's likely used to Sensei's issues by now.

They also "love" eachother.

 

[DeSkel15]

My personal, probably biased opinion; I highly doubt Maya Prime was that psycho. She was definitely controlling, manipulative and probably a little crazier on the inside than she let on, but I doubt she was ever slasher yandere level, at least at the point we knew her, she was around for millions of years and went through some shit, she could've had some phases.

And I think it's totally fair to read her conversation with Ayane being somewhat deceitful, but I actually believe her when she says she only killed when she absolutely had to. If she's on the edge of killing everyone she sees as a threat to sensei, shouldn't she have killed Ami and Noriko? She had fully legitimate reasons to think Noriko would get his mind wiped (and she did wind up getting him to remember something, so her fears were justified, even if she was wrong about the result) but instead she went out of her way to talk to sensei about it and backed off when he told her to. And if psycho Ami killed someone, that would have done a number on Sensei, but Maya didn't touch her either.

But new Maya is a different story. I honestly still doubt she's a physical danger, but when Noriko says Maya will hurt anyone in her way, I doubt that's how she meant it. I think Maya is more in the sphere of Nodoka fucked up. If things go in that direction, I expect blackmail and really scummy manipulation.

I mean, Maya Prime has admitted to killing Senseis before, because she was horny:

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She had a kill count and she had possibly millions of years to add to it in whatever way she wanted.

I wouldn't be too surprised if Maya Prime just realized that getting rid of everyone is pointless when they'll come back, and she still won't have Sensei to herself.

Personally, I think if anyone is a Yandere, it's probably Maya.

As for New Maya, besides not really knowing Sensei is seeing others, she also probably doesn't know that if she gets rid of someone, they'll reset, since she doesn't seem to buy the resets quite yet. There's a lot of untapped potential with New Maya.

 

[DeSkel15]

This reminded me that Maya casually talked about killing Ami and Sensei before:

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A totally normal conversation, lmao.

 

[Squalicorax]

I mean, Maya Prime has admitted to killing Senseis before just because she was horny:

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She had a kill count and she had possibly millions of years to add to it in whatever way she wanted.

I wouldn't be too surprised if Maya Prime just realized that getting rid of everyone is pointless when they'll come back, and she still won't have Sensei to herself.

Personally, I think if anyone is a slasher, it's probably Maya (or Kaori).

As for New Maya, besides not really knowing Sensei is seeing others, she also probably doesn't know that if she gets rid of someone, they'll reset, since she doesn't seem to buy the resets quite yet. There's a lot of untapped potential with New Maya.

I still think if killing was on the table, killing Noriko every few months is a better option than losing sensei for hundreds, or thousands, or millions of years.
And I don't think fucking sensei in a moment of weakness is the same as going out there and getting your hands bloody, even if the results are functionally the same, and if it is, isn't that even more reason to kill Noriko, since from her perspective she was at risk of killing him? Like Maya Prime was obviously super apathetic, but the exception to that was sensei.

 

[DeSkel15]

I still think if killing was on the table, killing Noriko every few months is a better option than losing sensei for hundreds, or thousands, or millions of years.
And I don't think fucking sensei in a moment of weakness is the same as going out there and getting your hands bloody, even if the results are functionally the same, and if it is, isn't that even more reason to kill Noriko, since from her perspective she was at risk of killing him? Like Maya Prime was obviously super apathetic, but the exception to that was sensei.

By the time Noriko showed up, Maya Prime wasn't trying to do anything to change things, and wasn't that attached to Current Sensei just yet.

It wouldn't be until her Bday towards the end of Chapter 2, that she seemed to really start opening up to him and that's because Noriko helped Sensei get a memory back, right before that.

I also doubt Maya actually saw Noriko as that much of a threat to Sensei, anyway. She just has complex feelings when it comes to Noriko, and was scared since Noriko and most of floor 2 were all unknown variables to her.

Killing them could also have had consequences for Maya. Since she got the Scarf in Chapter 1, Maya no longer knew what the timeline had in store for her.