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I haven't checked the forum in a bit seeing as absolutely nothing is going on, how is everyone enjoying LiL Fan Fest crap, I mean content?
As barebones as they were, I liked the "music videos" and the side story.
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Not that really invested in the fanfest, tho, even if apparently there's wizard supremacy.

I'm curious about what other works you have in mind when you talk about inspiration?
LiL-inspired or in general for your own project? For the former check the first two posts of this thread (also adding Sorrow of Rebirth, liked that little game), and for the latter it would depend on what's your story, and I'm not that well-read so I wouldn't truly try to recommend you stuff for inspiration.
Being as blunt as possible (and quoting someone else), a "manchild grooms students and also his obsessive family member and also deals with surreal horror elements" story (or something in that vein) will always depend on how you choose to execute it. I suggest to touch grass in a literary way and look up stuff related to what themes you want to show and explore.
Also, forgot to mention this earlier but don't leave your music and song choices aside either.
 

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Being as blunt as possible (and quoting someone else), a "manchild grooms students and also his obsessive family member and also deals with surreal horror elements" story (or something in that vein) will always depend on how you choose to execute it. I suggest to touch grass in a literary way and look up stuff related to what themes you want to show and explore.
Also, forgot to mention this earlier but don't leave your music and song choices aside either.
Thanks again for the details. With that description, I realize I'm less inspired by the games trappings and more inspired by the methods it uses to motivate interest, the style of engagement it asks of the reader and it's raw exploration of the darker layers of connection and intimacy.

Without going too far into the weeds...

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That being said, "the generic visuals, the stock animations, the boner-killing sex scenes and the unavoidable absurdity of the HAPPY events", these work because they point to something all of us (here) seem to know: this game is about its story. If I'm to read a book, sure, visuals help - but I'm not a kid, I'm here to draft meaning from the letters. Thus, if you have a good story to tell, compelling characters and an engaging plot - people will not care that much about everything else. That is, if you too distance your adult game from being an adult game, as Selebus did.

Without any sort of attack on "Lost in you" (in fact I'll play it again once it's finished to give it a fair shake), its visuals and overall programming are not that different from LiL (although LiL is still superior in every strictly technical aspect imo). So why does it not take off? Well, I personally did not dig the story. It's not bad, it's just not enough for me to ignore it being a game. This is the effect LiL has in me, it's like, rather than a game, it is a type of fruit that I have to peel to consume. The actual comsumption is the story, and the peeling is the stupid Selebus crap.

You can make a game that has less peeling involved (as "Lost in you" has), but at the end of the day, if the fruit itself is not that tasty, memorable or leaving you with wanting more - then it's just whatever. It will keep sitting on the shelf as I have to work to peel off the tastier one. Again, nothing against "Lost in you" - I just feel like it helps to explain LiL by comparing the two. Basically, why LiL is LiL, and "Lost in you" is an adult renpy game called "Lost in you". You see what I mean?
Thanks for the detailed input! Your perspective was one of the ones I was looking forward to the most and it certianly didn't disappoint. I'll make a point to take a look at Lost in You, compare and contrast is one of my favorite tools for understanding what makes something good anwyay.


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Oh yeah, finally got through this update. The first half seems to be a bit more eventful than the last, but I must say I feel bad for Uta already...poor girl already realizes what is happening, but because of how she is, she can't help herself.

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I know this wasn't for me but I like this question. I think it'd actually suck MORE because of how good LiL is. I can't be sure of this without it happening but I probably wouldn't be able to continue playing after that, though I'd probably check on this thread every once in a while to see how things are going. Hell I was considering dropping it around Lavender's Green and then again at the Karin bit because that was too far.

That being said, I think it's a matter of expectation. Like as you said, it's fine in works that are dedicated to it but if you included it in yours then it would by nature be an NTR game. I wouldn't complain about it's existence as long as I knew to avoid it. The fact of its inclusion would make reading it a non-starter and I imagine I'm not alone in that opinion. More than one male is fine though, especially if they don't romance any of the player love interests but I think it could work even if they did. Say they end up with a love interest the MC didn't choose, I don't think it'd matter much to people if they're likable.
 
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NOT THIS FUCKING CHOICE AGAIN FUCK YOU NO

edit: oh I see

edit 2: yes of course I get it. I understand now.. thank you Nao. Ok.. kinda serious fucking questions:
DID SHE JUST FUCKING DELETE THE EVENT????? NAO WHAT THE FUCK?
Also fact that... multiple of the "higher powers" seem to be active at once?? HE'S STILL SETTING UP A FUCKING WAR ARC OR SOME SHIT??
No one is safe, nothing is sacred, all will end.
 
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I know this wasn't for me but I like this question. I think it'd actually suck MORE because of how good LiL is. I can't be sure of this without it happening but I probably wouldn't be able to continue playing after that, though I'd probably check on this thread every once in a while to see how things are going. Hell I was considering dropping it around Lavender's Green and then again at the Karin bit because that was too far.

That being said, I think it's a matter of expectation. Like as you said, it's fine in works that are dedicated to it but if you included it in yours then it would by nature be an NTR game. I wouldn't complain about it's existence as long as I knew to avoid it. The fact of its inclusion would make reading it a non-starter and I imagine I'm not alone in that opinion. More than one male is fine though, especially if they don't romance any of the player love interests but I think it could work even if they did. Say they end up with a love interest the MC didn't choose, I don't think it'd matter much to people if they're likable.
Thanks for the answer, it's really an open question to anyone who would have a strong opinion either way. As for your answer it does back me into the corner after all.

For my part, LiL's lack of other men and more direct pairings of other characters in what is an otherwise unapologetic world causes me some friction conceptually. It's easy to handwave but it does feel like a strange void within the work when these elements get so much lip service but little on screen acknowledgement. This cast experiences so many flavors of pain, why is this one off limits?

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Thanks for the intel, I just have a ton of catching up to do on the expectations and boundaries of the VN scene. It looks like if I'm planning to cross those boundaries I might be better served toning down the heat to take the focus away from romantic catharsis, especially if I'm pursuing something along the lines of Subahibi. Regardless, your feedback is appreciated.

That said, I'm realizing degradation and rewarding betrayal aren't at all what I had in mind with these arcs. More like mutual tragedy and self-induced/preventable destruction. Kind of an "everybody sucks here", at least on the surface.
 
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The DRM thing was a joke. As far as I know there haven't been any reported brickings. But the two Main Menu images was all the content for today. Tomorrow there's going to be Yuki's design sheet and 5 new profile outfits.

Also here's the schedule for the rest of the week
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just gonna ask, if seli is doing fanfast, does that mean no update for 0.49.0?
 

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There's a new law or something like that in Texas. IIRC Sel lives there, so...
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What a bunch of fucking clowns :LOL: “Let’s focus our efforts on protecting the pixels rather than the real-life fucked up shit that happens on a daily basis.”

This law they’re proposing violates the first amendment and is unconstitutional btw. The Supreme Court already made a ruling on this in 2003 when the PROTECT Act was proposed.
 

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Does anyone still have either the 0.47 or a link to the 0.47 update file? Currently on 0.46 and I missed the window for getting 0.47, so I don't wanna redownload the whole game and set up all my customization again. Would appreciate any help sent my way :)
 
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