Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.53.0] [Selebus]

[PineApplePrinceAkira]

I Musth've Missed This:

Spoiler: ??? Age

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[Moonflare]

I meaaaaaaaaaaaaan even in the latest update you can still talk to Ayane about Maya Prime via the rooftop picture. If you're trying to say the dev wouldn't make a mistake like that my answer is: He 100% would.

In Taint the Sapling you are explicitly told Ami wipes everything and I'd say any inconsistency that arise from that are because the dev got lazy. If you want an in universe explanation: The Uta picture gets resent any time you delete it.

I'm confused by this post.

You can "talk" to Ayane about Maya Prime because it's a conversation that was supposed to be had then. So is every other message, you can review them as it was when the conversation was supposed to have happened - this is by design. You're not talking to Ayane about this now, as neither are you talking to Makoto about her putting a dildo in her mouth right now either. Regardless, this has nothing to do with Ami wiping things or not.

And in Taint the Sapling "you are explicitly told that Ami wipes everything" and that Akira put it all back.

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So I don't get the point. As I said, the game states at multiple times that everything has been restored.

 

[Mike.Ross80]

Really looking forward to him talking about his relationship with Sekai honestly, you could see Maki was extremely uncomfortable when he started shouting positive things about his abuser, she'll 100% have that racking around in her head for a while.
Also because she's his friend she's going to want to help him through it, which will open a collosal can of worms.

Im so excited for when she finds out about Makoto and Akira, I reckon that event will be brilliant.

Yeah, that is something I'm looking forward to as well; seeing how the other adults fine out about Akira and the order they find out. There will likely be a big difference with reactions in hearing about his relationship with Sekai first over his relationship with the girls.

Although I guess it would just be Maki, Yuki, Rika, Imani, and Wakana. Since Sara, Haruka, Tsubasa and Osako. And judging by that group, the others might not freak out as much as we would think.

 

[fasoaga]

Yeah, that is something I'm looking forward to as well; seeing how the other adults fine out about Akira and the order they find out. There will likely be a big difference with reactions in hearing about his relationship with Sekai first over his relationship with the girls.

Although I guess it would just be Maki, Yuki, Rika, Imani, and Wakana. Since Sara, Haruka, Tsubasa and Osako. And judging by that group, the others might not freak out as much as we would think.

Osako kind of learned that he is a predator. (but a sad predator.) While she was kind of suprised she didn't killed him on the spot and had a wholesome talk.
There may be 3 reasons for this:
-At the beginning of the chapter 4 she hears from Wakana that he was abused when he was a kid. This may caused Akira to look like a victim (he is but doesn't justify a thing).
- Osako, like all other characters tend to pulled by Akira. Probably a mechanic of this world to punish Maya, reward Akira or a wish etc. Chapter 1 Rin talks about how it is so easy for Sensei to get people to lke him.

-3rd and last one, and maybe the most important one. She heard all the poems so much she memorised all of them. Remember what Wakana said about them. It is a very dangerous mindset on people.

Why it may be dangerous you say? I think poems are not written by Sekai. But written by pareidolia. At the beginning of chapter 4, we see pareidolia taking full control. Making Akira do what he doesn't wanna do (assaulting Karin), making say what he doesn't wanna say.

It likes to make fun of Akira, and WRITES POEMS

And it wants sensei to impregnate girls so it can sing again.

Poems may be the infection. That may be the reason for wanting to create new hosts who can sing.

At least some more knowledge about Sekai from Wakana would be amazing.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

Another question. What happened to Yasu's parents? i know her dad got delusions from her, and her mother is abuser. But where are they now?

Their whereabouts now are unknown; whether they have left or still remained somewhere in the city is not mentioned. Also, I didn't really perceive Ms. Yasui as an "abuser". She was too frustrated, tired, and scared to be a patient model mom, but an actual abusive mom might not quit her job and take her daughter to literally a dozen of clinics, even if she hated every single moment of it.

I Musth've Missed This:

Spoiler: ??? Age

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We never figure anything out about Himawari in-game with high confidence; not her age, not even her her birthday if I remember correctly. This is a weird case in which some seemingly vital information exists only in the game's wiki and not in the game.

As for the age of main cast girls, everyone is somewhere between 15-16, with the exception of Rin who is one year below everyone (so likely 14).

 

[Moonflare]

Their whereabouts now are unknown; whether they have left or still remained somewhere in the city is not mentioned. Also, I didn't really perceive Ms. Yasui as an "abuser". She was too frustrated, tired, and scared to be a patient model mom, but an actual abusive mom might not quit her job and take her daughter to literally a dozen of clinics, even if she hated every single moment of it.

I agree. I'm not justifying her behavior, but caring for a schizophrenic child that doesn't get better with any medication, and whose "predictions" actually come true in form of disasters is too much for anyone. If I recall, her husband left her because of Yasu as well (though I might be remembering that wrongly).

The issue here is of course the paranormal side of things, it's hard to judge her mom as I would a normal person because Yasu was paranormal. Were she just a mental challenged person, the medication would have taken effect much before it got to that level.

 

[shmurfer]

I meaaaaaaaaaaaaan even in the latest update you can still talk to Ayane about Maya Prime via the rooftop picture. If you're trying to say the dev wouldn't make a mistake like that my answer is: He 100% would.

In Taint the Sapling you are explicitly told Ami wipes everything and I'd say any inconsistency that arise from that are because the dev got lazy. If you want an in universe explanation: The Uta picture gets resent any time you delete it.

Text messages only matter when they're sent. Otherwise we can speak to future Maya and Io via the care packages.

You never delete the photo even if you try. The ciphered text mentions it and punishes you for trying.

I Musth've Missed This:

Spoiler: ??? Age

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That age comes from Selebus when he decided to do ARG like posts as her. It's also as non canon as an out of game experience can be. Don't think about it too hard. There are also some other tentative ages in the care packages, but one could also argue those were added to try get the game banned from here so take them with a pinch of salt too.

I was hyped up for Wakana events sensei's talk with Maki. Right now he can talk about his trauma with Sekai without running away or blackout.

His talk with Wakana would be interesting because:
-Wakana knows about his trauma
-Wakana knows about the cause of trauma
-Wakana knows about the connection between Ami and Sekai (i don't remember if she made any comment about Ami's outburst in the classroom)

With all these knowledge her talk with him would be more than just "sorry for you, you are a good person at heart, hope you get better" and more about Sekai, apart from Sensei's memories/delusions.

Those events have probably been moved to 0.51 or later, and with the two month wait for 0.50 I'm kinda glad. The updated 0.50 changelog promises to be a banger that somewhat soothes the two month wait.

 

[Bingoogus]

The updated 0.50 changelog promises to be a banger that somewhat soothes the two month wait.

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[Antosha]

... Is Ami finally gonna peg Sensei?

Brings new meaning to that t-shirt she was wearing.

 

[shmurfer]

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The fact he re-arranged 0.50's plot after it got delayed an extra month, and who they replaced with who.

Now all of the characters in the update have interesting plotlines hinted at with maybe exception of Sara, but that could easily continue the Yuki cancer arc with Yuki and Yumi too as her employer finding out why Yuki's been absent. I guess Sara could continue with Sana's freak plotline but this is where I'd call filler if anything.

Then there's the fact that Ami outed to Niki how Akira's been fucking her and the rest of the class at Christmas, which Niki tested with Molly's and Sana's invite events. There's a reckoning coming here and I believe it's leading to Noriko's virginity since there were hints to Noriko getting invite events based on the old 0.49 and 0.50 changelogs, and if she is there's no way he'd have rearranged that based on how much he hates working on animations. We're even getting an extra animation in 0.49, maybe two if bonus animations don't count to an update's animation count so I don't think there's any room for animations to have been pushed back, they've been pulled forward if anything.

And Maya is Maya. Ayane's events are probably related to Maya too unless she's being allowed to be selfish, which she would deserve after the first half of Ch4. There's also another animation to be placed (It's likely to be someone else getting a new pose referencing a plot revelation, but there's a chance it's Maya dorm lust now that it'd be on Akira's terms)

Of course Selebus could write all of these to be empty events, but with that same logic 0.48 could have been garbage empty scenes too, and that update turned out to be majorly plot relevant when no one was expecting it.

 

[Bingoogus]

The fact he re-arranged 0.50's plot after it got delayed an extra month, and who they replaced with who.

Now all of the characters in the update have interesting plotlines hinted at with maybe exception of Sara, but that could easily continue the Yuki cancer arc with Yuki and Yumi too as her employer finding out why Yuki's been absent. I guess Sara could continue with Sana's freak plotline but this is where I'd call filler if anything.

Then there's the fact that Ami outed to Niki how Akira's been fucking her and the rest of the class at Christmas, which Niki tested with Molly's and Sana's invite events. There's a reckoning coming here and I believe it's leading to Noriko's virginity since there were hints to Noriko getting invite events based on the old 0.49 and 0.50 changelogs, and if she is there's no way he'd have rearranged that based on how much he hates working on animations. We're even getting an extra animation in 0.49, maybe two if bonus animations don't count to an update's animation count so I don't think there's any room for animations to have been pushed back, they've been pulled forward if anything.

And Maya is Maya. Ayane's events are probably related to Maya too unless she's being allowed to be selfish, which she would deserve after the first half of Ch4. There's also another animation to be placed (It's likely to be someone else getting a new pose referencing a plot revelation, but there's a chance it's Maya dorm lust now that it'd be on Akira's terms)

Of course Selebus could write all of these to be empty events, but with that same logic 0.48 could have been garbage empty scenes too, and that update turned out to be majorly plot relevant when no one was expecting it.

Guess we'll see, but i think you have too much faith in Selly, that and you've convinced yourself with what amounts to only vague possibilities. Not like i'll be bummed if you turn out to be right, quite the opposite, but i don't get my hopes up for this game anymore, disappointed too many times, keep the hype train in the station and just enjoy it when a banger randomly appears.

 

[TempAdventurer]

I finished this game for the first time a few days ago, and I can't stop thinking about it. How do you long-time players deal with waiting for each update? I want another 100 hours to play through right now, lol.

Excited to see how Rin and Yumi's respective stories continue, I think they were my two favourite characters.

 

[Bingoogus]

How do you long-time players deal with waiting for each update?

We post in this thread, over 50 thousand examples of our lives being wasted...

 

[Budoop]

I finished this game for the first time a few days ago, and I can't stop thinking about it. How do you long-time players deal with waiting for each update? I want another 100 hours to play through right now, lol.

Excited to see how Rin and Yumi's respective stories continue, I think they were my two favourite characters.

We post endless tierlists and throw hands over NTR discussions to distract ourselves.

 

[shmurfer]

I finished this game for the first time a few days ago, and I can't stop thinking about it. How do you long-time players deal with waiting for each update? I want another 100 hours to play through right now, lol.

Excited to see how Rin and Yumi's respective stories continue, I think they were my two favourite characters.

Set stupid goals, grind for those stupid goals, reload several scenes when I want to feel things, fuck around in Koikatsu until it clicks, make stupid predictions, have a stupid solo celebration in two months when if I'm right

And this thread with the other half of the time.

 

[LessonsInDissonance]

I finished this game for the first time a few days ago, and I can't stop thinking about it. How do you long-time players deal with waiting for each update? I want another 100 hours to play through right now, lol.

Excited to see how Rin and Yumi's respective stories continue, I think they were my two favourite characters.

Just play something else, I always have one game to keep myself busy when resting from my work or other responsibilities.

There is so much good content with very long hours to complete that I never really feel "empty" after an update, I just go and play those.

I think the first Rance game I played was in 2020 or something right after I found LiL, and shortly after I became a User who got addicted to both games. it's been 5 years and I still haven't finished the entire Rance saga.

Outside of LiL and every single Rance game, there's also very high quality and long games like

Eld,
Mist,
Dohna Dohna,
The headmaster,
Demon roots,
Crimson Keep,
Black Souls,
Evenicle.

All of those games/game sagas are quite long and would probably round my personal top 10.

I really dislike visual novels that are just reading, it's like watching porn or doujins with extra steps. It needs to have some type of sandboxing where you go looking for stuff like LiL (which is not the best example, because nowadays you don't have to do much of anything at all)
I really love traditional RPG games where you get stronger because it gives you a real sense of progression, and your rewards are literally fucking, what better reward than that? A fucking virtual trophy or a worthless hogwash of a skin for a balrog ass looking character you're never going to use? Fuck no! Pussy is the best reward for a job well done.

Sometimes I wonder if Lessons In Love could become the greatest H-Game of all time if it was a proper "game" with Alicesoft type development like the Rance games... Sensei starting as a broken level 1 human and getting strong enough to realize he was User 4 all this time... oops spoilers?

 

[Detective Dc345]

We post endless tierlists and throw hands over NTR discussions to distract ourselves.

Dont forget shitty memes, trivia, and the occasional anti porn propaganda from undercover government agents.

 

[crustlord12]

Dont forget shitty memes, trivia, and the occasional anti porn propaganda from undercover government agents.

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[Bingoogus]

I like the shitty memes

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[NikLid]

Hi guys
I spent an entire day collecting almost every tier list posted on this forum — in total, I found 47 unique lists. Based on them, I calculated an overall popularity rating for each girl in the game.
So, here is the ranking of the most popular characters according to the members of the f95 forum:

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