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CovertCobalt

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I'm extremely curious about the mechanism by which Akira will pursue "purity routes" with each member of the cast. Obviously we have the whole Dark Route to get through before we arrive there, but I'm wondering whether the Dark Route is something that interrupts Akira's progress, or whether it's a direct response to/consequence of it. Perhaps HOPE or another one of the gods will intervene to try and prevent Akira from bringing Himawari's dream to fruition? I have to imagine most gods wouldn't be pleased with any system that reduces their comparative importance.
 

barglenarglezous

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I finally finished the update and there are some points I need clearing up:

  • Why the fuck did Makoto's father randomly die at one point and never reset to being alive again, did some God kill him for no good reason or something?
Addressing some of your other questions as well, but focusing on this one because it's the easiest to explain.

Maya wished for a world where she could repeat that perfect moment in time with Akira, creating a time-loop bubble. That time loop bubble was a copy/paste of the original world, much like the quoted text above is a copy/paste from your original post.

Note how I only copy/pasted a part of your question. Everything else is gone. Does this make the quote I did copy fake? No, it's a copy, but just as "real" as your whole post.

That's what our Kumon Mi is. A copy/paste of the original world. The world is "fake" in a sense, but the people inside it are as real as their originals, though they are likely began drifting away from their "source code" almost as soon as they were created, as they are shaped by different experiences than their originals.

Makoto's father was outside the boundary when the copy/paste was done. He was never a part of our Kumon Mi, he only ever existed as a memory for those in Kumon Mi who remembered him from prior to the copy/paste wish. Since the original world was subject to linear time instead of the time loop, he's been dead for a very, very long time, as has everyone else who lived outside the bubble. Everything else is gone.

The Gods are watching Kumon Mi, because it shouldn't exist. It's an anomaly. It's entertainment. One of the Gods thought it would be funny to call Maki and inform her that her husband was dead just to see how far this anomaly can be pushed. That same God also thought it would be funny to call Haruka and inform her that her husband was still alive, just to see how far this anomaly can be pushed.

All the other instances of divine fuckery we see (Nozomu/HOPE pushing Akira do do X by Y time or Z happens) is also all likely just the Gods prodding the anomaly to see what happens. Maya's wish created a fishbowl, and they're just tapping the glass.
 

Moonflare

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Why do Shiori and Himawari let Maya Prime exist for so long without meddling?
I think that's a matter of perspective, in multiple fronts.
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Unrelated to this, but I want to see a spin-off event of just being a custodian in one of those worlds now :ROFLMAO: everyone's losing their minds over the reset and you're going around like "dude, I just work here".
 
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chu4ng

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Being true with ya all, Ayane was far from something I was eager to with every update.
But this Epilogue hits hard - with all how it's
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Remember? It's not a game.
I think it was from book "The problem of Puer Aeternus" by Marie-Lousie Von Franz:
> "... such men don't see a woman as an individual. They see her as **JUDGEMENTAL IDEAL**"

Even more worrying how almost each update hit's with personal life's stage.
 

john doeer

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Since this seems to be the prototype purity route ending, does that mean we might get more versions of Himawari where her mother changes? We see future Maya perfectly take the place of Ayane at the dinner table, which infers that other girls could feasibly take that spot as well.

Does all of Hima's cosplay and changing hair colors during her reset suggest her origins can shift a little too?

Will a Yumi mothered Himawari be the holy grail of a perfectly balanced Tsundere?

Will an Ami mothered Himawari be only a little too crazy for her Dad rather then then psycho yandere her mother was?

What if, in Himawari's pursuit to give each girl her own happy ending, she inadvertently creates a bunch of new "real" Himawaris each with a different mother? What if this is what gives Himawarico all the manpower it would ever need?

In summary, what if the purity routes' framework is getting to that happy ending where Akira/GirlX leave Kumon-mi and only stay in touch with a few select students in each case? I think that would nicely setup the final true green route to bring this extended family into contact with each other, either by traveling to different worlds or getting their own private wish world.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it
 

platinumgoose

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Did we get any hints as to why Himawari and Shiori let Maya prime exist for so long (or how she was able to dodge them)?
I think maybe it is the contract with a god? Maya said she needed to pray at the shrine, but never why, and Shiori said that Ami should have no protection as she has no legal contract with any god. If Maya had contract with god, then she is safe.

Maya knew about the gods, and had a connection with wires, but wires is now weak. Wires is weak, no contract, and gods cannot protect her.

Ami is not protected from custodians but gets her memory back from illegal contract, I think.
 

Klldarkness

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We spent a good couple of months theorizing that her time was coming up and said death would be the catalyst for a reset without you know who. You would have hated it.

Speaking of which, surprised you didn't say anything about that since you said something at the start of chapter 3 which I thought was much milder than the ending.
Was too busy sobbing, truth be told.

MC finally had some character growth through chapter 3 just to be rewarded with an impossible situation and the loss of one of the few people he actually cares about. Truly a rollercoaster of emotions; which is immediately followed up with what I'll just call the 'Ami situation' and leave it at that.[/ISPOILER
 
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TheGoodPastor

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I'm extremely curious about the mechanism by which Akira will pursue "purity routes" with each member of the cast. Obviously we have the whole Dark Route to get through before we arrive there, but I'm wondering whether the Dark Route is something that interrupts Akira's progress, or whether it's a direct response to/consequence of it. Perhaps HOPE or another one of the gods will intervene to try and prevent Akira from bringing Himawari's dream to fruition? I have to imagine most gods wouldn't be pleased with any system that reduces their comparative importance.
Given all we now know and considering - if I remember rightly - Sel described the purity routes as "retellings of the story" I'm honestly assuming he'll keep it pretty simple and it'll be like, alternate timelines or something.
 
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john doeer

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Since this seems to be the prototype purity route ending, does that mean we might get more versions of Himawari where her mother changes? We see future Maya perfectly take the place of Ayane at the dinner table, which infers that other girls could feasibly take that spot as well.

Does all of Hima's cosplay and changing hair colors during her reset suggest her origins can shift a little too?

Will a Yumi mothered Himawari be the holy grail of a perfectly balanced Tsundere?

Will an Ami mothered Himawari be only a little too crazy for her Dad rather then then psycho yandere her mother was?

What if, in Himawari's pursuit to give each girl her own happy ending, she inadvertently creates a bunch of new "real" Himawaris each with a different mother? What if this is what gives Himawarico all the manpower it would ever need?

In summary, what if the purity routes' framework is getting to that happy ending where Akira/GirlX leave Kumon-mi and only stay in touch with a few select students in each case? I think that would nicely setup the final true green route to bring this extended family into contact with each other, either by traveling to different worlds or getting their own private wish world.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it
Fuck it Full Himawari multi-parent wish list. Some are more inspired then others:

YumiWari = Perfectly balanced Tsundere.

AmiWari = Girl who can breathe and whose poetry is top tier while being only vaguely incesty or rapey

MayaWari = Mini Maya who actually actively conveys her true thoughts and feelings. Makes fun of her mom's love of stars and watermelons. Loves cats

SanaWari = Top tier Italian chef whose spaghetti is Michelin starred even as a teenager. Is never shy about sharing her feelings.

FutabaWari = Loves books and body positivity.

NodokaWari = Famous writer who doesnt go too-incest crazy, limiting to 1 couple per novel.

MakotoWari = Super smart and studious plus depression free. Comes up with a business plan that makes the Official Dildo Saber the worlds best selling dildo.

MikuWari = Obvious C-section delivery, perfect tomboy who can effortlessly switch between masculine and feminine styles.

ChikaWari = Wholesome Gyaru social media star. Chinami is her manager. She also acts as Chikawari's wholesome experience filter, shielding her innocence from bad influences like Tsuksasa.

ToukaWari = Effortlessly classy yet can converse with the poors just as easily. Future head of the company. Tsukasa unsuccessfully tries to make the name of HimaJeeves stick.

MollyWari = The mythical oxymoron cool Chuuni. MollyWari somehow finds the balance.

RinWari = the goodest of all homies everywhere. Is able to instantly obtain Homie status with anyone. Can also never roll below a 6 in DnD.

TsuneyoWari = Crowned Noodle Queen, can make perfect Tori Shio Ramen. Translates her Mothers noodle speak to customers when Tsuneyo gets lost in the sauce.

UtaWari = famous wholesome youtube Maid

IoWari = builds rollercoasters miniatures in preparation of working for a big amusement park ride designer, always tells her mother how wonderful she is. Loves baseball and is a natural cure for stomachaches.

OtohaWari = Don't see happening as Akira is not a small boy. Maybe fan fest world instead just goes her way.

YasuWari = LIL Jesus but a girl. Messiah of Hope, might become a cult leader unironically. Means well.

NorikoWari = Always comes in 1st place in everything she does. Maybe becomes a better Idol then Niki.

KirinWari = Honest about her feelings while being a notorious prankster. Just more fun and games and less sexual assault-y like her mother.
 
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