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Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

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TheGoodPastor

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Klay123 said:
Denied Ami and everything that comes with it. Probably didn't see the first beach event with Ayane and Kirin either? Also didn't go to Chinami in bath. Did everything else.

I think you can go wizard route without having sex with Ami. That's the main reason I ask for save
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You can, yeah. I do have a good uncle save that's on the wizard route - everything else is green except I didn't fuck Io in this one. I think it also happens to be saved right at the start of 0.51 too so it's about in the right spot.

Needs walkthrough mod.
 
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Hello,

Can some theory crafters explain to me if 9 jan 2020 mentioned on this update means anything with the first victim to covid?

And the music on the reset that there's a poem:


'Do you remember the first time we touched hands?
It happened on accident on the floor of your bedroom.
At first I thought there was no way you would ever see me in that light.
But when all of the other lights burned out and I was still there,
I finally understood.
You were just as broken as me.
And I knew then and there that I would fall into you.

Forget everything you know about love.
Forget everything you know about her.
Give unto me what you're incapable of giving to anyone else.
Only then can you be saved.
I am doing this for your own good.
King of all kings.
Child of man.
Buried alive in the palm of my hands.'

Means something on context in the game?

I spent too much time searching to try make sense but failed, so asking others brains to get satisfy my curiosity.

Thanks.
 
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Manana said:
Means something on context in the game?
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I think you're forgetting that the song has also appeared a few times before this event.
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It's pretty much a beach song, which fits considering this update pretty much abandoned any subtlety to tell us the beach is more important than we'd think.
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Considering the final lines also appeared in Paper City, I believe it's related to pareidolia somehow.
 
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Can some theory crafters explain to me if 9 jan 2020 mentioned on this update means anything with the first victim to covid?
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If you mean this one, then it's Jan 1st, 2020 and not 9th.
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Since this image's file name is "todd", I will assume that this marks the time and day of Ayane's pet chicken's death. Kinda wish this would give some hints to what happened to him though but I'm outta wits. All I could remember are:
- This is the KIA date and not MIA date, as Ayane during 4th reset said that "Todd ran out the other night".
- I'd assume Todd ran out the same night as John in Sasom i en Spegel, then got murdered much later, but not because I had something concrete in mind, just the blatant similarity.
- This date of course, is Maya's birthday. There is one event that most likely encompasses this exact moment and that is Somewhere Inside of a Dream (let's not talk about whether it should be 2019, 2020, or 2021). Since Maya has a valid alibi, we always blame Ami who happens to go to work that morning. She is evil anyway.
(I also always thought this is a rather uncharacteristic side of Ayane when it comes to what happened to Todd...would someone branded as eccentrically passionate not flip the entire city upside down just to locate her missing pet cock?)
 
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Much obliged all the answers, i got confused by the date really,
fdsasdf_p got it right, it was from this one image. I probably messed the dates.
Moonflare, SlidingSubject thanks very much for the info from the poem too, this really helped me. I heard the song before but i didn't take too much attention there, this time i got too much curious.

Thank you all.
 
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Moonflare said:
The poem you mention, or rather quote, has been broadly assumed to narrate Maya and Akira during the tutoring days. The bedroom would be the room he used to tutor the girls, and where Maya would start to live in soon after. That he was just as broken as her is a reference to her being abused prior to meeting Akira. "all the other lights burned out and I was still there" references Sekai and Niki being gone from his life. I supposed one could interpret it as being either Sekai or Ami talking about him, but Maya fits much better. A continuation/another quote by Maya would be her explanation of the green scarf, in the same format - in which she alludes to being the one that actually pursued their initial relationship.

The second part can be a reference to many things - they're unlikely to be by the same author. At first we assumed that it referenced Akira losing his memories as a means to be cured of the abuse Sekai inflicted upon him "forget about love and forget about her, only then can you be saved". If you take a look at "somnambula" it can also be a reference to Ami/whatever was in control of her talking about dethroning a god and putting him in its place.[/SPOILER]
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Another reason to think the first half is Maya is that the same voice was used for AmIOkay in Yumi's event "I See You". I think it's also plausible it's Ami since Maya "stole her story" and AmIOkay contains elements of both of them, but I'm not sure it really matters since they used to be the same person, anyway ;).

The second half is in the voice that Wires used when introducing himself in "Word of the Day". Wires seems to want Sensei to forget his trauma in the sense of leaving it behind him; the way he repressed the memories at the start of the game wasn't good enough since he still kept trying to recreate the "love" that Sekai taught him.
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If you mean this one, then it's Jan 1st, 2020 and not 9th.
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Since this image's file name is "todd", I will assume that this marks the time and day of Ayane's pet chicken's death.
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I don't know why the file is named "todd", but I'm convinced the time of death is for Tsuneyo's father. I'll write up a post on that when I have some time.
 
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aramaug said:
since they used to be the same person, anyway ;)
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"Himawari is Ayane's daughter" = noob level
"Himawari's real name is Ami" = getting closer to the truth
"Himawari is Ami" = :oops:
"Himawari is Maya, because Maya is Ami, thus Maya is Ayane's daughter" =
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Moonflare said:
"Himawari is Ayane's daughter" = noob level
"Himawari's real name is Ami" = getting closer to the truth
"Himawari is Ami" = :oops:
"Himawari is Maya, because Maya is Ami, thus Maya is Ayane's daughter" =
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You two are fuckin' crackpots... i love it...
 
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harrytrumankr said:
i feel like i have to reread a thousand pages of the thread to understand what's going on with this theory:unsure: seriously, what's happening with Himawari and Ami and Maya here
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It's fairly simple (?)
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*keep in mind that all of this is mostly a joke, we're not stating that they're likely (even if not outright impossible).
 
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Moonflare said:
It's fairly simple (?).
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*keep in mind that all of this is mostly a joke, we're not stating that they're likely (even if not outright impossible).
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I personally don't place much emphasis on the very early Chapter 1 event about naming Ayane's daughter, though I definitely believe there's some relationship between Himawari and Ami based on the picture you provided there. The Maya theory is ehhhhh, vibes-based? Like that part is really shaky.
 
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