barglenarglezous
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Ahh thanks. I'm still playing catch up so that'd be why. Sorry.
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I suppose we are about to find out how serious this game's warnings really are. For better or worse.
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Actually, the first Christmas Party ends in Chapter 2. Chapter 1's 'Changing of Seasons' is the last event in Chapter 1, which ends with Sensei and Maya holding hands on the roof before the end card appears, and leads into Chapter 2's first event:
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I mean... I don't doubt that something very horrible is going to happen, but I also feel like people really overrate Hope's warning. Hope did next to nothing for nearly three chapters. I feel like if Hope really wanted Sensei to take whatever he's meant to take he would have taken drastic measures much sooner. My personal guess is that "something bad" will be slightly darker than what we've seen so far to gradually shift the tone of the story towards darker stuff for the future chapters.
Also, since there are 35 heroine routes at the end of the story, I think we can probably expect all the girls to be alive and well by the end of the story.
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It's already been demonstrated that death in this game is a temporary condition.
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Honestly, i've been quietly watching you guys talk about the serious consequences that will come if Akira doesn't take what he has no right to or whatever it was but for me i feel like Hope is just fucking desperate and is lashing out with threats he can't follow up, all bluff, all bark and no bite, Akira has survived almost 3 chapters now with Hope trying shit and he's gotten no where of consequence... if you imagine that threat made out of fear, out of panic with Pareidolia's season coming and Hope's power/influence waning, it does kind of turn into a bit of soggy lettuce.
I'm not at all saying my hunch is right, it's just a hunch, but i've just never felt that threat had any weight behind it. I've spent more time just thinking about what it is he's suppose to be taking than whatever the 'consequences' would be if he didn't do it.
I dunno, i often find myself looking at this game/story from a meta perspective, what's the point of Hope's threat in the story? What can he really do if the only real consequences are Akira just gets fully reset, that'd make for a pretty game. Maybe he get's locked in a box and tortured... boring. Maybe he gets tormented by having his girls taken away somehow... ok... then what? Like, from a narrative perspective, Hope is pretty limited in what he can actually threaten Akira with given the game is already forced to remain somewhat consistently the same if Selly doesn't want to risk his income, if shit goes far too weird far too fast then a lot of people are going to either lose interest or feel ripped off for all the time they put in.
I'm kinda rambling here, i enjoy reading the theories but i ultimately have little energy for any that deviate too far from 'shit will pretty much stay the same with some measure of progression' and so i don't put any weight on Hope's threats.
I'm not at all saying my hunch is right, it's just a hunch, but i've just never felt that threat had any weight behind it. I've spent more time just thinking about what it is he's suppose to be taking than whatever the 'consequences' would be if he didn't do it.
I dunno, i often find myself looking at this game/story from a meta perspective, what's the point of Hope's threat in the story? What can he really do if the only real consequences are Akira just gets fully reset, that'd make for a pretty game. Maybe he get's locked in a box and tortured... boring. Maybe he gets tormented by having his girls taken away somehow... ok... then what? Like, from a narrative perspective, Hope is pretty limited in what he can actually threaten Akira with given the game is already forced to remain somewhat consistently the same if Selly doesn't want to risk his income, if shit goes far too weird far too fast then a lot of people are going to either lose interest or feel ripped off for all the time they put in.
I'm kinda rambling here, i enjoy reading the theories but i ultimately have little energy for any that deviate too far from 'shit will pretty much stay the same with some measure of progression' and so i don't put any weight on Hope's threats.
i understand what the berserk reference is ment to forshadow but what the hell is the rabbit bear from one piece ment to mean
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Like I said, we're likely about to find out. The warnings could be overrated. HOPE has also apparently just been generous and waiting until that warning:
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Personally, I'm more worried about the girls being reset than them dying. I don't really think I'd enjoy the endings with empty dolls that look like the girls I've grown to know.
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I think Toys was a demonstration of what the consequence might look like, since it showed us that Angels could hijack people and turn them into puppets.
That, plus the Halloween scene with Molly two years ago, point to a very uncomfortable scene brewing. They're gonna bodyjack Akira into doint what they were trying to get him to do on his own free will.
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I'm thinking it's just raping a teen. Maybe a virgin in particular. It seems like something/HOPE has been trying to make him rape the girls for awhile. Yumi in Chapter 1, Molly in Chapter 2, and Sana in Chapter 3, for example. HOPE may have just got tired of waiting for Sensei to rape one of his students, so is more or less saying rape or I'll rape for you.
Long Maya actually seemed interested in how Sensei "managed to avoid violently raping anyone" back during 'The Room with Clocks':
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Could be wrong though.
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pretty sure it's been a hot topic here for a while now. don't dwell on it too much cuz everyone here has their share of theory about this one.
it's not yet officially proven anyway.
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Well, It's not impossible. Sensei could be the father of any of the girls, tbh. Nodoka would love that.
Or maybe the father to all 35 of them. Kinda like a Predestination situation.
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Yup. Same goes for HOPE, The Wire god, etc.
With false memories, time manipulation, shapeshifters, and talking plants, it's kind of hard to count anything out.
Considering Nodoka's came "from nothing" thing, it's possible that no one even actually has parents or family (sorry Incest lovers). They could have just popped into existence to fill up this world, or another world, and ended up here by mistake, etc.
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And I just remembered there is supposed to be a "Red Hood" Black Souls game soon. Much appreciated.
Biding his time, perhaps, just waiting for the perfect moment to strike. That time may be drawing near. As for why he didn't act sooner, this could have been a test of Sensei's resolve and, assuming he does not heed HOPE, he fails. Then there's the possibility HOPE wanted Sensei to do it under his own power instead of the influence of the gods, only using the threat of consequences as pressure instead of forcing Sensei to act like what happened previously with the Yumi kiss according to Sensei's own words.
As far as everyone being alive at the end of the purity routes, remember that all those purity routes are said to be individual focused, so they won't be reliant on all the girls making it out of this alive. The only one that has to survive, and that's only up to the very end and then she can die as part of the ending of the route without issue, is the one the route is for.
For now, we also don't know exactly how far that 'protection' goes. There may be something down the line that results in a final death. Anything from something the gods themselves can't even prevent to the gods wanting them to die for whatever reason. Perhaps Sensei continues to refuse them after the consequences already laid out in previous events once those are delivered.
Everything of yours, that does NOT sound like threatening a full reset, it sounds like it goes far beyond. That sounds like he's thinking of going after the girls, particularly ones with a history of intimacy, ones Sensei may have at least a little feelings for at this point.
Very possible, I could see a full blown rape in the future with Molly or another untouched girl on the receiving end, Molly specifically because she was already targeted once and it failed. That's already setting up a potentially very uncomfortable scene.
That's been my running theory since it came up, something he isn't supposed to have, their virginity is a prime target, particularly the virginity of a girl that hasn't consented yet and hasn't shown willingness to do so.
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Random, but I had forgotten that Tsubasa really needs to get laid:
Time to call the WAP Man.
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