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jclark1337

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Okay, can someone spoil me on what the fuck Haruka specifically did?
I kinda red pathed on her to not cuck her husband, but been thinking on not doing that now that .53 told us he probably doesn't even exist.

In not, it's fine, I can figure out how to save edit into it.
You can also just download URM. It shows you the paths when they show up and you can select a different one to see the scene without changing your save (quicksave/save beforehand and reload afterwards just to be safe, so it doesn't permanently change variables because it could possibly mess things up in the future if you don't reload to your original path.)

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I honestly think a vast majority of the player base would be surprised if Maya just ceased to exist, but wouldn't care if she did. It's obvious Sel wants us to care about Maya. He even stated he was surprised, after she got decapitated in the last update and no one cared about what happened to her. Even though as of recent, she gets at least one L per update she's in. And the biggest L of them all comes from this update. Sel stripped away the most interesting aspect of her character, then proceeded to give her the shaft constantly afterwards. At least when Noriko constantly got the shaft, she had a likeable personality to fall back on. Nu-Maya doesn't even have that. Sel made it hard to like this stripped down version of Maya, when there's nothing left to like.
The way i see it, this just delivers on what Sel was trying to do, say that this Maya is not the same Maya we all knew making Akira's relationship with her and the way the player sees her change that much, despite how hard this Maya seems to be trying to put the pieces together.
 
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TheGoodPastor

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Okay, can someone spoil me on what the fuck Haruka specifically did?
I kinda red pathed on her to not cuck her husband, but been thinking on not doing that now that .53 told us he probably doesn't even exist.

In not, it's fine, I can figure out how to save edit into it.
Sure. The tl;dr is that she tries to fuck Chika when she sees her crying after talking to Yumi, is rejected hard, and then does the same thing with Kirin and finger/mouth rapes her a bit before Kirin gets away

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The latter incident leads directly to Kirin's TSS event, so if you miss this you also miss that in case you hadn't clocked it.
 
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Okay, can someone spoil me on what the fuck Haruka specifically did?
I kinda red pathed on her to not cuck her husband, but been thinking on not doing that now that .53 told us he probably doesn't even exist.

In not, it's fine, I can figure out how to save edit into it.
Everyone else's replies talk about what happened this update.

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Shit's interesting, but fucked.



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I wonder how the final third of the chapter will go with all this stuff coming to a head (heh, coming, head).
Final? Third? you might be jumping the gun here. At the rate of girls lewded per cycle based on the latest cycle, we need at least 4 more cycles before dark route. If we assume chapter 5 is going to be a regular chapter length of 2 cycles, there needs to be at least 2 more for infinite spring.

And because I forgot to say so during the sitrep post, We are officially still in chapter 4 after 2 resets have concluded. The Infinite Spring is real
 

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Damn, I've lost it the moment I've noticed that ''unburnable trash'' was written on Io's sweater :KEK: :KEK: :KEK:
When I looked at it with Google Lens, it went back and forth between "unburnable trash" and "useless trash".

Also, I think it is kind of funny how we went through the whole discussion about the trigger guide, and it got its own thread and a mention in the main post, and since then we have had two updates that were totally on rails.
 
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Bingoogus

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Sugoonib rises...

Two things i need to point out cause i'm not seeing anyone else mention it.

I am pretty sure Maki wasn't so focused on the girls being liberated and free to express themselves so much as not wanting Akira to have such temptations around him. After their talk about his nature, it seemed to me that despite it looking like it was 95% about the girls, if you paid attention you'd see that the source of her concern was how they were all flirting with a now known predator and victim of a predator... i'm unconvinced it was as much about protecting the girls and more about protecting Akira... but it got a bit garbled in her head... i could be wrong and just be cherry picking but that was how that entire thing came across to me...

The bit i mentioned about enjoying Haruka's scene, don't get me wrong, it was not titillating or arousing for me, what i enjoyed about the comparison to Akira's subtype of predator is that Haruka was all about her own lust, she just wanted to get off, any teenage girl would do, all her words were attempts at placating Chika/Kirin to get what she wanted... and once she was between Kirin's legs she couldn't stop saying how delicious she was... this is very different to Akira cause despite the fact that, yes, he 100% is a predator, he's the kind that's searching for connection, a warped sense of love, a recreation of his own molestation... he wants to fuck, yes, but he's not into it if she doesn't consent to it, if she doesn't want it (even if he's groomed her to want it)... i ain't saying it's any better, but his subtype has some nuance, and it was interesting to see a raw and pure predator like Haruka work her game...
 

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it was interesting to see a raw and pure predator like Haruka work her game...
Something I really liked about the scene is that Kirin tells her multiple times to not call her nicknames, and Haruka agrees, just to keep calling her nicknames. I thought it was a very good touch. It's not even registering to her what she's doing, and she keeps working against herself, that's how pathetic she was.

Another thing I forgot to mention was how it was confirmed that Ami has raped Maya constantly at every opportunity for a year - as we had been saying. And since I'm there, man, fuck Ami. Her entire conversation with Maya was disgusting and infuriating. I really, really hate her character - can't find it interesting at all, it's just vile.
 

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Something I really liked about the scene is that Kirin tells her multiple times to not call her nicknames, and Haruka agrees, just to keep calling her nicknames. I thought it was a very good touch. It's not even registering to her what she's doing, and she keeps working against herself, that's how pathetic she was.
Yeah, she was a bundle of nerves, bursting with energy as she was finally getting her dream fulfilled, how quickly she grabbed her hand and started for the bathroom once Kirin said yes, once she was in the stall her head was nothing but "omg omg omg finally, yes, fuck, fuck, god, omg, yes!" and she could barely hear Kirin, not that she gave a fuck about her anyway, she was playing out HER fantasies, Kirin was basically a sex doll to her... so surreal to see...

Also, forgot to mention, but doesn't what Maya say back up Himawari's statement about her being a wish? That she's the loli girlfriend Akira wished for, he finds her one day, alone, needing him, in the rain, with no memory of before that day... almost like that was the moment she came into existence...?
 
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Sugoonib rises...

Two things i need to point out cause i'm not seeing anyone else mention it.

I am pretty sure Maki wasn't so focused on the girls being liberated and free to express themselves so much as not wanting Akira to have such temptations around him. After their talk about his nature, it seemed to me that despite it looking like it was 95% about the girls, if you paid attention you'd see that the source of her concern was how they were all flirting with a now known predator and victim of a predator... i'm unconvinced it was as much about protecting the girls and more about protecting Akira... but it got a bit garbled in her head... i could be wrong and just be cherry picking but that was how that entire thing came across to me...

The bit i mentioned about enjoying Haruka's scene, don't get me wrong, it was not titillating or arousing for me, what i enjoyed about the comparison to Akira's subtype of predator is that Haruka was all about her own lust, she just wanted to get off, any teenage girl would do, all her words were attempts at placating Chika/Kirin to get what she wanted... and once she was between Kirin's legs she couldn't stop saying how delicious she was... this is very different to Akira cause despite the fact that, yes, he 100% is a predator, he's the kind that's searching for connection, a warped sense of love, a recreation of his own molestation... he wants to fuck, yes, but he's not into it if she doesn't consent to it, if she doesn't want it (even if he's groomed her to want it)... i ain't saying it's any better, but his subtype has some nuance, and it was interesting to see a raw and pure predator like Haruka work her game...
Was that a freudian slip Sugoognib...or should I say Bingoogus! Only a dunce would misspell their own name!
 

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Sugoonib rises...

Two things i need to point out cause i'm not seeing anyone else mention it.

I am pretty sure Maki wasn't so focused on the girls being liberated and free to express themselves so much as not wanting Akira to have such temptations around him. After their talk about his nature, it seemed to me that despite it looking like it was 95% about the girls, if you paid attention you'd see that the source of her concern was how they were all flirting with a now known predator and victim of a predator... i'm unconvinced it was as much about protecting the girls and more about protecting Akira... but it got a bit garbled in her head... i could be wrong and just be cherry picking but that was how that entire thing came across to me...
Well, to Maki she doesn't have explicit confirmation so he's not a known predator in her eyes. I imagine she's still giving him "every benefit of the doubt that has ever existed" as Osako once put it in regards to Wakana and Imani - though she has a lot less exposure to him in general around everyone else (with dorm wars, school rumours, etc.) so she arguably has less reason to actually suspect him anyway, though she seems to have some suspicions from that last couple lines in her talk with Haruka and Sara.

Regardless, one thing I feel she made quite clear is that despite Makoto's seemingly low opinion of her ability to grasp the "nuance" of things she grasps quite fully the possible ramifications of the type of sexual abuse Akira suffered as a child. I'm not sure she outright suspects him at this point but she clearly understands that he may be conditioned to continue the cycle and is worried about it.

And yeah, it definitely seems right now that her concern is focused on him more-so than the girls getting to be liberated and free - but given the fact she's realised that their motivation is specifically to try and catch his eye rather than to just be able to dress how they want I think it makes sense that's where her head would be at, even if it clashes a bit with her usual sensibilities.
 
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You know it's odd considering who Akira is, but Haruka really reminded me what predator is. Like holy shit, that made me uncomfortable.
A perfect contrast between selfishness and lack of self (the world helping him with the myriad of resets where he groomed each girl being subconsciously remembered notwithstanding).
 
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Bingoogus

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Like seeing Maki talk about this? Seriously, woman, have you ever thought about your own child? Why would you care about other kids then?
I particularly liked how Makoto finally threw her audibility during her childhood in her face... that shit really was it's own kind of child abuse... she didn't just hear a headboard hitting the wall or a mattress creaking... she could hear just about everything...
 
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