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DeSkel15

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For unknown reason I started to actualy read Yasu's monologues.

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So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?

We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.

As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".

2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.

We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.

DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.

Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations

Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"

3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live

PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't

PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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As for my Pareidolia misinterpretation:
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:
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And who knows who is lying:
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Even this Italic Narrator who seems to actually be The Shapeshifter could be lying.
 
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Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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As for my Pareidolia misinterpretation:
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:
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And who knows who is lying:
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Even this Italic Narrator who seems to actually be The Shapeshifter could be lying.
Thank you, I needed this <3
 
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Much as I enjoy hypothesizing, I don't partake for the reason DeSkel just mentioned: We lack concrete information. It seems generally accepted that the god-trinity of Callous/Calm/Concerned are the same beings as Hope/Wires/Pareidolia because it survives Occam's Razor, but honestly we don't even know THAT for certain.
 

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Kind of long response revolving around Yasu's 'Frankincense & Myrrh':
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As for my Pareidolia misinterpretation:
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I could probably talk about this shit for days, but to be honest, everything could change with a single update, just by something new being revealed or something old being revealed to be a lie or false truth. Unfortunately, it's been implied that something has been purposely misleading the player/theorists:
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And who knows who is lying:
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Even this Italic Narrator who seems to actually be The Shapeshifter could be lying.
My theory on Yasu is that she's basically being used and manipulated by her god and this will break her pretty badly if/when she finds out. It's one thing to learn your god isn't real, it would be quite another to learn they are real but have been lying to you the whole time. Poor girl thinks she is an angel in training when she is actually just a pawn.
 

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Much as I enjoy hypothesizing, I don't partake for the reason DeSkel just mentioned: We lack concrete information. It seems generally accepted that the god-trinity of Callous/Calm/Concerned are the same beings as Hope/Wires/Pareidolia because it survives Occam's Razor, but honestly we don't even know THAT for certain.
But we can challenge this theory now. At least it looks like that
 

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Sel has really been pushing for Imani scenes. At least that's how it feels to me whenever some dialogue comes up like; "you two haven't hooked up yet?" Mostly paraphrasing here, but feels like a foundation being built.

I'm all for it, but I'm hoping it's not some side plot with how many Imani theories have been cooked in this thread so far and how they can probably hold up when/if big reveals do eventually happen.

Taking Yasu/Io for example, that came out of completely left field for me when An Apple Each Day/Yellow Cactus Flower dropped, I was devastatingly shocked.
 

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My theory on Yasu is that she's basically being used and manipulated by her god and this will break her pretty badly if/when she finds out. It's one thing to learn your god isn't real, it would be quite another to learn they are real but have been lying to you the whole time. Poor girl thinks she is an angel in training when she is actually just a pawn.
With the weird "angel points" version of her, I think it's more that she has the "normal" personality that gets info from HOPE and just does what he asks and is pretty clueless otherwise, and a personality that's trying to evolve into a potential Angel 3 and preaches even harder than the normal one, and actually (seem to?) knows a lot of things and is very assertive with that knowledge.
 
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For unknown reason I started to actualy read Yasu's monologues.

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So why don't we discuss our unholy trinity once more?

We either still in "Not enough reliable information" phase or there is something interesting here. Trichotomy Callous/Calm/Concerned does not match Everything/Nothing/Rope well, but let Everything/Nothing be on Yasu's perception for now. The point here is that two gods are at war and third is keeping neutralty (common trope, isn't it?)
1) It is interesting because we haven't been given reliable discriminator for who fights for whom yet. Anyway, there is some ideato rely on angels/rabbits color, because why not. With that assumtion, sides of war can be represented by Sekai and Hope.
Yasu god sounds more Sekaish than Hopeish (if we think about them as about different gods, obviously). It also explains rabbits and angels colors mismatch, which is a problem of "default" theory: there is no mismatch, both of them are on "Dark side". I do not like this conclusion, it contradicts the idea that linkage between Hope and Sensei is the reason Yasu calls him her god's favorite.

As an alternative, Sekai can be in opposition to Yasu's god. It does not sounds very natural, but a) we know almost nothing about Sekai's backstory b) from last events, Sekai might be "not callous" more than "Lust Eater".

2) "Default" Unholy Trinity theory seems a bit broken. Especialy in the part when order is important.

We have Callous/Calm/Concerned. We also know it is same trichotomy as "The Lust Eater" / "The Wire God" / "The Dark".
Next, the important part, we assume they are Hope (Nozomu)/Wire god/Pareidolia.

DeSkel mentioned (AFAIR) recently, that "The Dark" does not fit Pareidolia well. The more i think about it, the more I question miself "how do we know that pareidolia is Concerned god"? For all I know, he might be Callous god as well.

Now we also have Everything/Nothing/Rope trichotomy. War between Callous and Calm is strange, and how Callous could be everything? With (1) it sounds more like not understanding what is goind on, than some misinterpritations

Sidenote: If Callous/Calm/Concerned in that order survives, we might suprisingly find that Ami is callous, Maya is calm and Ayane is concerned. It sounds less insane after "Flowerchild"

3) This is not about "default" theories and more about my own thoughts. Initialy i linked existance of Kumon-me to agony of dying god, but now that god is not just dying, but also fights in the war. That not sounds like an agony. If there is a war, it opens some room for Sensei as Faust, who obliged to choose a god to help him win a bet or smth like that. Simple and explains amount of divine interventions in his live

PS by "default" i name theories that I think are common within community. If they aren't, they aren't

PPS Yasu alsmost identified her god with rope in that event. And Sekai with her god. Interesting, isn't it?
Pareidolia more likely than not is "Concerned".

Here, I'll outline my current paradigm (my highlights in purple or gold):

[Warning, a bit long]

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DeSkel15

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My theory on Yasu is that she's basically being used and manipulated by her god and this will break her pretty badly if/when she finds out. It's one thing to learn your god isn't real, it would be quite another to learn they are real but have been lying to you the whole time. Poor girl thinks she is an angel in training when she is actually just a pawn.
I think Yasu is actually completely fine with being a pawn. She even seems to want to be used by it. I mean her religion intentionally treats her as a baby maker:
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Yasu also seems to value her god far more than herself:
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I think the only thing that would really break her at this point, is murdering her god with many eyes, before her eyes.

I can also see Tsuneyo being some sort of "God-killer in training", designed to combat Yasu's god:
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So, that'd be interesting.
 

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I think Yasu is actually completely fine with being a pawn. She even seems to want to be used by it. I mean her religion intentionally treats her as a baby maker:
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Yasu also seems to value her god far more than herself:
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I think the only thing that would really break her at this point, is murdering her god with many eyes, before her eyes.

I can also see Tsuneyo being some sort of "God-killer in training", designed to combat Yasu's god:
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So, that'd be interesting.
Tsuneyo as the child of Wires. A weapon carefully nurtured to slay its counterpart. I like it. Fits quite nicely in my theory.
 
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