Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.55.0] [Selebus]

Fantasy Catharsis · Aug 20, 2023

I like coming here every now and then to catch glimpses of what people are discussing, and while I doubt I'll be investing time in this game again any time soon with how lengthy it is as of late I end up doing the next best thing to fill my interest by investing maybe 5 minutes to read theories. And let me tell you it hasn't been easy to wrap my head around any of them, doesn't help that my stopping point was when

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so I'm way out of the loop.

DeSkel15 · Aug 20, 2023

Bingoogus said:
It's a tough subject, biologically we're primed to be attracted to girls around 15, for so many reasons, but i'd like to assume most of us here recognise a distinct separation between what our dicks tell us is right and what our brains say is right just as i'd like to assume we understand the difference between fiction and reality. I wouldn't enjoy any of this story if it were real, it's completely fucked up, which makes great fiction, but super gross reality. It's a pity though that the current societal gestalt can't tolerate this subject even in fiction but it is what it is and i like that i at least have this little hang out where the subject is actually discussable, in as far as staying on the topic of the game is concerned.

I think it's safe to say the dick wants, what the dick wants:

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And we can leave it at that.

Bingoogus · Aug 20, 2023

akselx said:
I don't know if that's accurate, unless use age as a proxy for other things, that are actuall points of attractions for males. Mainly secondary sex characteristics, smoother skin, "cute" facial proportions (that disappear as we age).

Ah, yeah, i meant more like, from 15 and up, like the average age of attraction starts around 14-15 and ends up around 23-24, like, that's the meat of the bell curve, i've seen stats for it several times throughout the years and it fits our species like every others when factoring in the differing biological demands and other variables. I'm not going to go and google it now though

akselx · Aug 20, 2023

Bingoogus said:
Ah, yeah, i meant more like, from 15 and up, like the average age of attraction starts around 14-15 and ends up around 23-24, like, that's the meat of the bell curve, i've seen stats for it several times throughout the years and it fits our species like every others when factoring in the differing biological demands and other variables. I'm not going to go and google it now though

What i'm saying is that age is mostly just a proxy for things males find highly desireble for fuck partners (not for actual sustainable relationship, mind you). It's not an age thing per se, but it maps on perfectly on high fertility age range.

DeSkel15 · Aug 20, 2023

So, if Ayane and Tsuneyo were to fight, with no weapons allowed since Ayane has gun magic:

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and I'm not confident that Tsuneyo can deflect bullets with Gallows Edge, Who you got?

Both seem to be considered above Yumi, by themselves:

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and others:

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Tsuneyo has the size advantage, and Ayane has the skill and experience advantage, but I'm not entirely sure who is stronger, considering Ayane seems suspiciously strong:

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and Tsuneyo is Tsuneyo. They also might have supernatural plot armor going on, but good luck taking that into account.

Bingoogus · Aug 20, 2023

akselx said:
What i'm saying is that age is mostly just a proxy for things males find highly desireble for fuck partners (not for actual sustainable relationship, mind you). It's not an age thing per se, but it maps on perfectly on high fertility age range.

Yeah but... isn't that kind of splitting a single hair? The two aren't just correlated, they're intrinsically linked. We find the features of ideal fertility range attractive cause they're the features of ideal fertility age? Maybe i'm not understanding you, i used the numbers cause that was what was being discussed but i never meant it was all about the numbers, i'm not thinking 'damn, want me some 15 year old pussy' but instead it's my dick going 'that, mate with that'.

akselx · Aug 20, 2023

Bingoogus said:
i'm not thinking 'damn, want me some 15 year old pussy' but instead it's my dick going 'that, mate with that'.

I know, but it is how its often being framed. I wasn't really arguing the point, just adding stuff i felt were important to note.

derekthered56 · Aug 21, 2023

DeSkel15 said:
So, if Ayane and Tsuneyo were to fight, with no weapons allowed since Ayane has gun magic:

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and I'm not confident that Tsuneyo can deflect bullets with Gallows Edge, Who you got?

Both seem to be considered above Yumi, by themselves:

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and others:

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Tsuneyo has the size advantage, and Ayane has the skill and experience advantage, but I'm not entirely sure who is stronger, considering Ayane seems suspiciously strong:

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and Tsuneyo is Tsuneyo. They also might have supernatural plot armor going on, but good luck taking that into account.

Tsuneyo has a strike-first mentality to fighting, while Ayane seemed skittish at the idea of killing people even on Sensei's behalf during the truth or dare game. i doubt Tsuneyo could block bullets but the fight would be over before Ayane could pull out a hammerspace weapon.

I'm also curious why you would give the skill and experience edge to Ayane. She doesn't seem particularly good at karate, while I'm pretty sure Tsuneyo has actually won kendo tournaments.

DeSkel15 · Aug 21, 2023

derekthered56 said:
Tsuneyo has a strike-first mentality to fighting, while Ayane seemed skittish at the idea of killing people even on Sensei's behalf during the truth or dare game. i doubt Tsuneyo could block bullets but the fight would be over before Ayane could pull out a hammerspace weapon.

I'm also curious why you would give the skill and experience edge to Ayane. She doesn't seem particularly good at karate, while I'm pretty sure Tsuneyo has actually won kendo tournaments.

Kendo skill and experience doesn't really translate well to hand to hand combat.

Ayane actually seems to be quite impressive when it comes to Karate:

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And apparently already believed she could probably beat Sensei to death blindfolded, years ago, by this point:

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Presumably, Tsuneyo's only experience in hand to hand combat is against Yumi recently, and that was more or less just wrestling with a malnourished ruffian. Meanwhile, Ayane spars with the best martial artist of the cast occasionally, and has been trained by her weekly, for around 3 years.

Tsuneyo is more skilled at kendo and definitely cooking, but Ayane is more skilled at karate, sex, and probably most other things, as well as more experienced in pretty much everything besides cooking, working at a ramen shop, and kendo.

niconob92 · Aug 21, 2023

Well, shit. Seems like I messed up last patch when disabling the DRM damn it.

Algorist · Aug 21, 2023

Any skilled swordsman has a massive advantage against an unarmed human.

Tsuneyo, with a (steel) sword, trounces Osako and Ayane (simultaneously). Osako can handily beat an unarmed Ayane-Tsuneyo team. Ayane defeats Tsuneyo unarmed, with some difficulty. Ayane armed with a gun can dominate anyone, supernatural powers excluded (her "gun materialization" skill itself is magical, so... probably other characters have things like that, especially Tsuneyo, who is canonically capable of conversing with birds ~~and is the only daughter of an Eldritch God~~)

Sensei is similarly capable of conversing with birds. I wonder what's up with that.

All in all, my money is on Tsuneyo if everything's allowed; because I believe her trump card is much stronger than mere gun materialization. Ayane, when limited to unarmed combat, or Osako (if we were to include her). And Tsuneyo again if she's allowed to keep her sword.

Dringar · Aug 21, 2023

Stupid question but does anyone have a Chika card they would be willing to share?

DeSkel15 · Aug 21, 2023

Algorist said:
Any skilled swordsman has a massive advantage against an unarmed human.

Tsuneyo, with a (steel) sword, trounces Osako and Ayane (simultaneously). Osako can handily beat an unarmed Ayane-Tsuneyo team. Ayane defeats Tsuneyo unarmed, with some difficulty. Ayane armed with a gun can dominate anyone, supernatural powers excluded (her "gun materialization" skill itself is magical, so... probably other characters have things like that, especially Tsuneyo, who is canonically capable of conversing with birds ~~and is the only daughter of an Eldritch God~~)

Sensei is similarly capable of conversing with birds. I wonder what's up with that.

All in all, my money is on Tsuneyo if everything's allowed; because I believe her trump card is much stronger than mere gun materialization. Ayane, when limited to unarmed combat, or Osako (if we were to include her). And Tsuneyo again if she's allowed to keep her sword.

Keep in mind that Ayane was the adoptive mother of an energy draining chicken:

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and might be the mother of a time traveling mind reading shapeshifter:

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I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.

I kind of want to see Princess Knight Ayane with her swords:

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vs Kendo Princess (Catgirl Flavor Samurai) Tsuneyo:

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with her swords, now.

I'd also say Todd vs Noodles the Unholy, but...
Noodles is likely on an entirely different level anyway:

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Actually, maybe they have already fought?

This game is fucking wild. Like wtf am I even talking about?? Lmao.

D4NT4R1UM · Aug 21, 2023

Dringar said:
Stupid question but does anyone have a Chika card they would be willing to share?

here

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Rasc · Aug 21, 2023

Does anyone know where the update only page is for v0.32.0? I gave up looking after 100 pages, I still failed to find it and my ability to use the search bar properly in non-existent.

Dringar · Aug 21, 2023

dantarium said:
here

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much obliged good sir

Algorist · Aug 21, 2023

DeSkel15 said:
Actually, maybe they have already fought?

I mean, Todd is dead now, so. Something must've happened. I'm not sure exactly where his corpse was, but it happened during that Yumi-Tsuneyo update, where they seemingly would join the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad (Yumi was talking about turtles). And then John became gigantic. Something's weird there, definitely.

Between marsh warblers, chickens, sparrows, and white-fronted parrots... there's a clear bird motif in this game, and I can't say I don't enjoy it.

DeSkel15 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.

AFAIR, as of the current update, only Tsuneyo and Sensei have exhibited this characteristic. Sensei also being able to converse with inanimate objects, I'm not sure if Tsuneyo can also do that, but I do not remember any instances of such.

vehemental · Aug 21, 2023

Rasc said:
Does anyone know where the update only page is for v0.32.0? I gave up looking after 100 pages, I still failed to find it and my ability to use the search bar properly in non-existent.

You can get old patches from the game's Subscribestar.

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's the v32 patch.

Sheesh. Still no movement on the amount being pledged in the months since the drama popped off and the game came off the Latest Updates page. I hope it was worth it.

Riolol · Aug 21, 2023

DeSkel15 said:
Keep in mind that Ayane was the adoptive mother of an energy draining chicken:

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and might be the mother of a time traveling mind reading shapeshifter:

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I wouldn't be surprised if she can talk to birds as well. Not sure if it's come up.

I kind of want to see Princess Knight Ayane with her swords:

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vs Kendo Princess (Catgirl Flavor Samurai) Tsuneyo:

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with her swords, now.

I'd also say Todd vs Noodles the Unholy, but...
Noodles is likely on an entirely different level anyway:

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Actually, maybe they have already fought?

This game is fucking wild. Like wtf am I even talking about?? Lmao.

You forget Ayane has several guns she can summon with cute girl magic.

DeSkel15 · Aug 21, 2023

Algorist said:
I mean, Todd is dead now, so. Something must've happened. I'm not sure exactly where his corpse was, but it happened during that Yumi-Tsuneyo update, where they seemingly would join the Rooftop Apocalypse Squad (Yumi was talking about turtles). And then John became gigantic. Something's weird there, definitely.

Between marsh warblers, chickens, sparrows, and white-fronted parrots... there's a clear bird motif in this game, and I can't say I don't enjoy it.

AFAIR, as of the current update, only Tsuneyo and Sensei have exhibited this characteristic. Sensei also being able to converse with inanimate objects, I'm not sure if Tsuneyo can also do that, but I do not remember any instances of such.

John actually may have warned us about what would kill Todd:

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That "tendrils" bit reminds me of Yasu's sky tendrils:

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Which she brought up after talking about the World itself:

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So, I'm thinking the World has sky tendrils and these tendrils are what killed Todd.

However, The World might be what is taking Sekai's form (Sekai translates to World), which can notably "take" Sensei's eyes:

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showed up restored (in it's purest form) after the snow melted, and is presumably allied with Noodles:

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So, in a roundabout way, Noodles may have played a part in Todd's death, afterall.

John also seemed to mention that festival:

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