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Right now there's only 1 scene you outright miss by doing that, but all of Rin's events leading up to it are changed pretty heavily too. If you want a quick way to undo it, Oblivion9900 posted a save on page 124 that starts right at the beach event thats set up to give you the best outcome possible while getting all the events. The skip feature, by default, won't skip any changed/new text, so you can use that to quickly get to where you are now while only really reading the new/changed things.

[Edit]Also, I hope HOPE you meant Chika and not her little sister Chinami.
lol thanks for you help, yes I meant Chika.

I'm tempted to go with that save file, but part of me wants to live with the choices I made in game. I'm just worried that doing so completely screws me for potential future events.
 
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lol thanks for you help, yes I meant Chika.

I'm tempted to go with that save file, but part of me wants to live with the choices I made in game. I'm just worried that doing so completely screws me for potential future events.
That's why you keep multiple saves, man. Get the "good" route along with the "bad".
 

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That's why you keep multiple saves, man. Get the "good" route along with the "bad".
Yep, fuck it, I'm weak. I've downloaded that save file and now I'm doing both routes. And yeh, the good route is 5 billion times better. Still sad how it plays out but at least I don't feel like such a shithole about it.

Also, I had actually missed a lot of beach content because I didn't have some of the girls lust points high enough.
 

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P.S. Selebus, if you really want me to not share this info and start just telling people about the cheat code, I'll do that.
*Intense copying noises*
 

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I just wanted to say that it is wrong to blindly shame incest without context. I totally agree that in real life there are tons of examples of aggressive seduction(and rape) and literally pedo stuff but context with Ami in this game is literally nothing close to it. She masturbates to Senpai, she wants him to touch her, she never said anything against his moves and MC actually questioned his decisions multiple times before doing something dirty to her. I've felt bad for betraying Rin but I didn't feel myself bad for having sex with Ami. So maybe there is a need to make some scenes where MC did something bad to her and maybe add an bad ending to route where Ami just moves to dorm and stop talking to you.

I'm not going to say that this is completely okay but there is no points that easily says that sex with Ami is bad. Somebody said that she needs to be sent to psychologist but in reality statistics says that only 10% of people with mental problems are going to specialist. You can't blame MC for not being ideal to Ami. But if we had some obviously bad moves from him then everything from happy scenes will really hit the spot
 
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I'm not going to say that this is completely okay but there is no points that easily says that sex with Ami is bad. Somebody said that she needs to be sent to psychologist but in reality statistics says that only 10% of people with mental problems are going to specialist. You can't blame MC for not being ideal to Ami. But if we had some obviously bad moves from him then everything from happy scenes will really hit the spot
In terms of videogame logic, you're right. There are absolutely no points that say that having sex with Ami is the wrong choice or something bad to do. But that's kind of the point. Both us and Sensei see decisions in these games as only having short term minor consequences which can easily, or semi-easily, be undone while mostly being motivated by our libidos and/or desire to see more of the story/characters. However, a common theme in denpa games like this is to apply real world logic to the decisions made in them and treating the characters as if they're real people to show how messed up using that videogame logic can be.
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Tfw no one's realized there's a homie cheat code yet
I only like being a dirty cheater once I finish a game; unless there's a real good reason for doing so, but with the way that things have consequences in this game, I'll hold off.

Though, I'd find it hilarious if using the cheat codes gets mentioned by Molly breaking the 4th wall.

Yep, fuck it, I'm weak. I've downloaded that save file and now I'm doing both routes. And yeh, the good route is 5 billion times better. Still sad how it plays out but at least I don't feel like such a shithole about it.

Also, I had actually missed a lot of beach content because I didn't have some of the girls lust points high enough.
After experiencing the pain of breaking Rin's heart
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, I switched to keeping multiple saves.
 

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I only like being a dirty cheater once I finish a game; unless there's a real good reason for doing so, but with the way that things have consequences in this game, I'll hold off.

Though, I'd find it hilarious if using the cheat codes gets mentioned by Molly breaking the 4th wall.



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, I switched to keeping multiple saves.
You can still call her over, just need to wait until chika has done the heart breaking and play no part in it .
 
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I just wanted to say that it is wrong to blindly shame incest without context.
If we're applying real world logic there is pretty much only 1 context that makes it "okay".

But I would echo Ankoku on this point, and it was the point I was trying to make by saying that Sensei is a predator; a logic much closer to the real world is being applied to the moral choices made by Sensei here than in your usual game.

The very fact that there are multiple posts now by people who were bad homies and regret it shows us that there are consequences for being a shitty person in the game - and the game is defining shitty much more strictly than a lot of people are used to.

And while my specific links have not yet been shamed I'm all on board for getting the treatment! It's what I signed up for by playing a game that is interested in analysing motivation and morality (at all when compared to most).

I can't believe I am about to type this about a porn game but the fact that this game is making us question at all the actions we take defines it as art rather than just smut.
 

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I know in the save that Oblivion posted, I can't call Chika over because I missed out on Detention... I guess I'll need to start another save then.
Did you get the corrected one he posted on page 124? Specifically the one from this post:
i made a mistake in that save before selebus posted what i needed to avoid for the beach scene. that event is crossed out if you chose to not kiss chika in her earlier events.
i made a save correcting that but i guess i forgot to post it here, my bad.
here is the corrected save with chika events enabled, starts at the beginning of the beach events.
sorry for quoting you so much Oblivion. You're save is just so damn useful! More people need to like that comment. :p
if you've already done everything between your 2 saves and wanna consolidate to 1 save with everything done, I can post my save. You would just have to change the name everyone calls you on the computer then.
Huh, maybe I broke the game. I guarantee you, I am a good homie and I can still do the dirty with Chika nextdoor to my niece.
Nope. Your save is fine. I was showing that what you did was possible.
 
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Did you get the corrected one he posted on page 124? Specifically the one from this post:
I do have that one, just forgot that it was all the way on page 16... Welp, now I have 3 decent saves: a "Good homie" save, a "Bad homie" save, and a "Good homie that lies" save. Yin, Yang and Wuji.
 
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Don't know if Swift311 actually meant this, but I think his intention was to stop shaming the MC as this is all a game.

Personally, consensual incest scenes (especially with flat-chested girls!) are some of my favorite and I don't really consider that predator behavior as 1) Consensual 2) It's fiction 3) The characters are obviously anime.

Now, if this was real life, or even human actors/extremely realistic CG, bring the barf bag and send a physiologist over. That's disgusting and predatory. But since it's obviously anime, it's a major turn on:love:

So what if you deceive people in this game? So what if you rape people in this game? So what if you abuse your power? Nobody is gonna get hurt. It's all a game, all part of a world in which Selebus has 100% control over. It's all fiction.

And all we gotta do is separate fiction from reality.

But let me reiterate. Anything that goes in this game would be morally reprehensible in the 3rd dimension, in our reality.

It's just that the ethics and morals of the 3rd dimension holds no power over the 2nd dimension...
No kidding, in a game the characters are pixels and code and you can do whatever you want to them for any reason you want without hurting any real person. The only real thing is the player's thought process in justifying those acts, which is what's being broken down and mocked here.

I'm playing the game too, I'm making those same choices. I just enjoy that the game acknowledges that they're terrible choices that a terrible person would make and doesn't let the player hide behind rationalizations like these.

You don't have to explain or defend anything to me. Just relax and try to be happy.
 
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