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I sorta had to put this game down. It's a good game, don't get me wrong, it felt like the stuff going on in the background was getting way too dark for me. However, I might pick this back up in the future when I can. I like dark, but I think my head isn't screwed on straight enough at the the moment.
 

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One of the major flaws of this game is the time u gotta wait for events, u run out of things to do and just gotta skip weeks to get to the next bit of "content" and then its often padding and not any actual scenes which are too few and fewer in variety i mean in the dark path its still mostly just vanilla options aside from the occasional NTR. Just removing waiting fully will be a major QOL and putting up icons when new scenes are ready at locations. Gallery unlock function for alternate scenes when u get one version would also be nice along with an option to keep the starting appearance of the mom as the "slut" one looks kinda meh.

Full save request again cuz playing trough this is too tedious at this point
 

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Sure, i dug a bit and I have a save shortly after the final event with Lily and Sophia (where now the quest log refers to the bar) where Emily's event still triggers (day 52). And my save of 1 day later (i don't know what i did originally here though), it will no longer trigger.

12-5 is day 52 and after Lily & Sophia event (their log now refers to the bar), if I go from here straight to house => emily room the event still fires.
12-6 is day 53 and this is where going to Emily's room will no longer give the text/event about Sophia being missing.

17-3 is my save at day 72 where I exhausted all my options and going to Emily's room doesn't trigger anything.

I can see I triggered the Pamela event on day 52 going into day 53 originally, however that doesn't account for the entire day, nor does it prevent the event with Emily from firing on day 52 (when I tried to retrace my steps).
"walktrough" instructions are really bad and often miss requirements, just keep doing other scenes and trying to trigger em at different times of day or wait for the major dates like the boss getting there for it to change over
 

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IDK how that's possible. Up until Day 95 or so, there are at least 8 events per "week", depending on how you play. If you avoid anyone for any reason, you'll likely lock yourself out of some content since EVERY STORY is interwoven. Meaning: If you dislike and avoid a girl you consider unappealing, she's likely connected to the one you really like. It's not a Kinetic novel, but later events have prerequisite events with other characters.
thats another annoying part , as it adds needless filler as you gotta skip and waste more time instead of getting progress. Its a porn game, people don't play it for the fluff and story in a "boomer" shooter and care even less about it then in one of those. Even non-kinetic novels don't usually have filler or time sinks like this does.
 

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Sure, i dug a bit and I have a save shortly after the final event with Lily and Sophia (where now the quest log refers to the bar) where Emily's event still triggers (day 52). And my save of 1 day later (i don't know what i did originally here though), it will no longer trigger.

12-5 is day 52 and after Lily & Sophia event (their log now refers to the bar), if I go from here straight to house => emily room the event still fires.
12-6 is day 53 and this is where going to Emily's room will no longer give the text/event about Sophia being missing.

17-3 is my save at day 72 where I exhausted all my options and going to Emily's room doesn't trigger anything.

I can see I triggered the Pamela event on day 52 going into day 53 originally, however that doesn't account for the entire day, nor does it prevent the event with Emily from firing on day 52 (when I tried to retrace my steps).
I thoroughly checked it out for the past two hours and I don't know what's going on. At first, I thought a later event would overwrite access to Emily so I messed around with that, even playing your day 12-5 save file trying to recreate the bug, but I wasn't able to.

In 12-5 everything works because there are no missing events but on 12-6, Two key events from the early game are missing. I retraced said events and basically, they're impossible to miss as they are required for the game to continue leading to the Emily talk. I'll try and replicate this very rare issue at a later date but so far I'm pretty much at a loss.

Anyway, your latest save file (fixed) is at the bottom of this post. Cheers for all the help.
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thats another annoying part , as it adds needless filler as you gotta skip and waste more time instead of getting progress. Its a porn game, people don't play it for the fluff and story in a "boomer" shooter and care even less about it then in one of those. Even non-kinetic novels don't usually have filler or time sinks like this does.
I don't really get it. A game without a story and only naughty scenes is just porn so then one might as well watch porn instead.

Also, this game is probably one of the most content-filled sandbox games out there with on average at least 2-3 events available a day. If you're having to wait 2 weeks for an event to trigger then you're doing something wrong. Removing said triggers as you suggested will make everything very chaotic, to the point of making the game unplayable or at the very least not enjoyable.

As for Dark Paths being mostly vanilla, that's the first time I've heard of that and I'm not really sure how to respond to that.

Alternative clothes/outfits would be really cool but way too time-consuming to implement. If I were to do that, future content would instantly drop by 30% which I don't think is worth it.

The journal is about 80 to 90% accurate at the moment. It also says, "Stuck somewhere? Complete other quests first."
If one does so, it's very easy to navigate through the game. In the next update, it will probably be 100% accurate as there will be a new coding system for that in place.

In any case, it's a work in progress and it's growing swiftly. The game has been improving with each and every update and will continue to do so.
 

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I thoroughly checked it out for the past two hours and I don't know what's going on. At first, I thought a later event would overwrite access to Emily so I messed around with that, even playing your day 12-5 save file trying to recreate the bug, but I wasn't able to.

In 12-5 everything works because there are no missing events but on 12-6, Two key events from the early game are missing. I retraced said events and basically, they're impossible to miss as they are required for the game to continue leading to the Emily talk. I'll try and replicate this very rare issue at a later date but so far I'm pretty much at a loss.

Anyway, your latest save file (fixed) is at the bottom of this post. Cheers for all the help.
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I don't really get it. A game without a story and only naughty scenes is just porn so then one might as well watch porn instead.

Also, this game is probably one of the most content-filled sandbox games out there with on average at least 2-3 events available a day. If you're having to wait 2 weeks for an event to trigger then you're doing something wrong. Removing said triggers as you suggested will make everything very chaotic, to the point of making the game unplayable or at the very least not enjoyable.

As for Dark Paths being mostly vanilla, that's the first time I've heard of that and I'm not really sure how to respond to that.

Alternative clothes/outfits would be really cool but way too time-consuming to implement. If I were to do that, future content would instantly drop by 30% which I don't think is worth it.

The journal is about 80 to 90% accurate at the moment. It also says, "Stuck somewhere? Complete other quests first."
If one does so, it's very easy to navigate through the game. In the next update, it will probably be 100% accurate as there will be a new coding system for that in place.

In any case, it's a work in progress and it's growing swiftly. The game has been improving with each and every update and will continue to do so.
it is a porn game to begin with onto which the dev is trying to slap a bloated crapware of a story like ppl care about a "story" in their fap material which again is irrelevant and gets in the way of a fun game and. One thing is having a bit of spice in a meal but when the spice is getting in the way of the meat and has become 90% of the meal then yeah you are doing shit wrong . A VN with adult content is one thing and an obvious wank game (which this thing is) is another and western devs have failed to produce anything that could be both at the same time and its a joke for the devs to claim that this is even trying.

Its already not enjoyable with how much time skippin i had to do and thats within getting all the scenes at their earliest dates. Seems like you don't do enough playtesting or don't know your game.

Never said anything about clothes.

So yeah you admit the journal is basically extremely rubbish.
 
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Priorities: Adult Visual Novel vs Porn

Adult Visual Novel:
  • Create relatable characters who appeal physically and emotionally with the player.
  • Tell a STORY.
  • Entertain all aspects of a player's senses - mental, physical, morality, and sexual.
  • Build relationships either slowly or through manipulation of others in some way.
  • Build suspense, create drama, make jokes and have satisfying, shocking, and hilarious payoffs.
  • Add Porn scenes.

Porn:
  • Show people doing sexual things, damn any sort of story.
  • If there's a plot? It's just there to set up the relationships, nothing more.
  • Make the viewer cum - as hard and as satisfyingly explosive as possible.

If you don't want to read? Don't like being challenged by a NOVEL?
Then don't play Visual NOVELS. Go find some porn and fap.
 
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croPath

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Fuck off and go jerk off to some porn instead of bullying our devs you fucking weirdo.
If I only wanted to jerk off then I'd load up some characters in Koikatsu and jerk off to them. I, and just about everyone else here, is here for the story, the character development and the scenes just as much as the smut.
criticism isn't "bullying" snowflake. I mean thats what you are doing its just that the other guy is loading the scenes for you and u gotta jump trough hoops
 

croPath

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Priorities: Adult Visual Novel vs Porn

Adult Visual Novel:
  • Create relatable characters who appeal physically and emotionally with the player.
  • Tell a STORY.
  • Entertain all aspects of a player's senses - mental, physical, morality, and sexual.
  • Build relationships either slowly or through manipulation of others in some way.
  • Build suspense, create drama, make jokes and have satisfying, shocking, and hilarious payoffs.
  • Add Porn scenes.

Porn:
  • Show people doing sexual things, damn any sort of story.
  • If there's a plot? It's just there to set up the relationships, nothing more.
  • Make the viewer cum - as hard and as satisfyingly explosive as possible.

If you don't want to read? Don't like being challenged by a NOVEL?
Then don't play Visual NOVELS. Go find some porn and fap.
Dude i probably read more actual books and novels in a week then u do in a year, its why i well know the difference. This porn game is literally advertised off the porn aspects so porn game. Main highlights in the update notes are sex scenes hence porn game. The problem is that dev like certain others doesn't seem to get that majority of people don't care about him padding out his good put together scenes with way more padding thats not even written above a porn writing level which is embaressing.
There are also totally porn games that do have really amazing writing and characters tho some unintentional. For example the first two parts of monster girl quest you could cut all the +18 stuff and still get an amazing ride out of the story, discipline is an unintentionally really fucking funny in a certain. But again japanese examples mostly made by experienced people and not egotistical devs that think they are writing the some emotional piece instead of smut and getting way too into it that they ruin the smut part.
 

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I see dark/corruption/ any nasty tag im in gonna play this game. Maybe my head is screwed
Thats fine. I would have been more scared about people who play this games and think that "we are not playing darkest ones so we are morally superior"
 

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Dude i probably read more actual books and novels in a week then u do in a year, its why i well know the difference. This porn game is literally advertised off the porn aspects so porn game. Main highlights in the update notes are sex scenes hence porn game. The problem is that dev like certain others doesn't seem to get that majority of people don't care about him padding out his good put together scenes with way more padding thats not even written above a porn writing level which is embaressing.
There are also totally porn games that do have really amazing writing and characters tho some unintentional. For example the first two parts of monster girl quest you could cut all the +18 stuff and still get an amazing ride out of the story, discipline is an unintentionally really fucking funny in a certain. But again japanese examples mostly made by experienced people and not egotistical devs that think they are writing the some emotional piece instead of smut and getting way too into it that they ruin the smut part.
You seem pretty quick to make things personal which, of course, is your prerogative, but calling people snowflakes for disliking what is plainly your opinion rather than legitimate criticism seems rather petty. I am no developer, but I am a writer and I imagine developers put more time into their craft than I do into mine. If you have such disdain for the game as you plainly do, continuing to post about of a game you dislike seems counterproductive bordering on asinine and after a bit is just trolling. If the game is so poorly written as you claim and "embaressing" why not just move on? Say something like "I did not care for the writing. I found the characters vapid and insipid, the plot ponderous and overly-weighty and the entire premise self-indulgent and have decided the game is plainly not for me." Then you can move on with your day rather than calling people snowflakes and extolling the virtues of your superior reading skills. Have some respect for people's hard work providing something you can either enjoy or move on from for free. Of course...I could be wrong.
 

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Dude, you must be trolling because nobody can be this dense. Who are you to decide how games should be? You're not giving criticism, you're giving out bad advice solely based on what you think is good, assuming everyone else thinks exactly like you. Then you're lashing out at those around you and you're gatekeeping.

Don't like the game? Move on and go play the superior Japanese hentai games instead. Nothing to do with ego, and more to do with your attitude.
I guess there are people who simply need to make their opinion known on all matters ad nauseum. I am enjoying the game, by and large. Thank you for your hard work.
 
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Thats fine. I would have been more scared about people who play this games and think that "we are not playing darkest ones so we are morally superior"
Yeahh but I'll admit my favorite tags are corruption/bdsm/male dom F dom/hypnosis/ntr/slave/pregnancy/ i have extreme kink
 

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Yeahh but I'll admit my favorite tags are corruption/bdsm/male dom F dom/hypnosis/ntr/slave/pregnancy/ i have extreme kink
You just like powerplay and more graphically its pictured the better.

In general I dont see any difference between super hardcore or even gore slave owning games that unwelcomed paladins hate and games were you play an lovey-dovey incestual blackmailer that are so popular. Its still just a degree of power over someone.
 

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You just like powerplay and more graphically its pictured the better.

In general I dont see any difference between super hardcore or even gore slave owning games that unwelcomed paladins hate and games were you play an lovey-dovey incestual blackmailer that are so popular. Its still just a degree of power over someone.
Yeahh i guess different kind of strokes for different kind of folks btw can you recommend me some good games with that kind of tag ?
 

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Yeahh i guess different kind of strokes for different kind of folks btw can you recommend me some good games with that kind of tag ?
Well, im pretty sure you already used search on f95 and played almost all that is here, so we have the same library cards.
 

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Well, in general, that becomes clearer the more the story opens, the latest update had a huge reason on the why which will be expanded upon in the coming versions.

Another reason is that she got a remake to appeal to the more vanilla crowd after the first version came out, her original design was way too much for regular players to handle. Even with a big altered/mellowed down version, it seems it's still too much for certain players but IMO that's mostly because they judge the game in the early stages of playing without knowing the full story/context.
Yo sir do you still have her old version ?? I'm curious on what she looks like back then thankss
 
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