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3) I'm not sure, but I somehow think this is due to an earlier bug which got fixed and this only happens in older saves?
No, I restarted using the updated version to test. The issue arose when she gave the panties in the street. I think that it works OK is she gives them when in the club.
9) Not really. How did she end the Mo path?
Lizzy stayed behind and ended up working for Donny doing porn shoots to repay the debt to Faoud. However when the debt was repaid she still gets the message saying that she’s unhappy because of Faoud and his men. I get she’s still be stressed but the way the text reads it implies that she still has a debt payable to him.
10) It depends what happened. So when working for Mo, the flower path continues. There is no more new content though as Helen told Lizzy she is not focused etc. When working for Faoud, it depends which path was taken.
11) Yeah in the future I want more story depending on what Lizzy chose. And indeed also maybe a way back into the good path. For the future.
:)Maybe a quick win is if Lizzy convinces Faoud she's a teacher. Longer burns on the other routes...
12) I need to address this. Mo will come in at some point and tell Lizzy that it is not a hotel or something like that. For the next big update - so for now I'll let it go. Oh wait maybe something like that working after certain time is illegal. I'll do some research.
If not illegal maybe simply only allow Lizzy to work there on set days (Mo will undoubtedly have more girls). Also will Lizzy share the window at some point, possible groups and/or friendship. If the later this could also be a possible way out for Lizzy and her friend in some future update…

Also I think you may have missed a couple of earlier posts of Thursday 6th January & Friday at 11.51?
 

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Hi BurningSun thanks for your reply. OK I've attached the relevant saved game files for the strip club. 1st is when Lizzy does the "coke" event with Raul. 2nd is her 1st try out with Marko on the Sunday (note that when she exits she's back in the centre instead of the red light district) which is an old bug. 3rd is the following Thursday when she enters the strip club showing the message that Lizzy has already performed. Also the green button was missing when Lizzy was in her flat.
Regarding the Summer "bug" should Lizzy get the "press the matter" event prior to the relationship reaching 18? Is it random or do you need to do anything special? I've met her while walking, at the vendor and at the towel when taking a nap?
Noticed that when Lizzy visits Raul in the club and takes a line she doesn't get the energy boost, screenshot attached.
Lizzy can also have sex (club or work) when on her period; is this meant?
Not all the effects of drinking alcohol when "working" have been added.
An idea... Lizzy always looses the chess match at the pub; how about using the same pictures and similar text but with her winning occasionally "say" 25% of the games and getting a +3 intelligence bonus instead of the +2 when she looses?
Also I do like the below idea (I play using "hard" option) and feel this would be a good idea; less clicking and also not having to remember her working days when there's a long gap in playing.

Thanks.
Hi BurningSun An idea... when Lizzy goes down the "good" library route and effectively takes over from Willem maybe she has to have office attire to get the promotion (with maybe a bit more of a salary increase)?
If Lizzy "works" at the beach and gets too tired the game send her home to sleep but she remains in her bikini, topless or naked. Shouldn't she have changed in the booth 1st?
Beach party free drink the text says "Live ..." should be "Life is good..."
Beach party rape scene missing picture.
When James request to flash is rejected and Lizzy tries to talk to him the text says she waits an hour but it's a couple of minutes. Also maybe give Lizzy the option to change her mind and flash him (maybe dignity based)?
In the text when Patricia tells Lizzy she needs a BSN number etc there's a bit spelt incorrectly. The text should say "Bah I hate whoever...".
Many thanks for enabling the "good" library path to continue pending the next Amsterdam update.
No, I restarted using the updated version to test. The issue arose when she gave the panties in the street. I think that it works OK is she gives them when in the club.

Lizzy stayed behind and ended up working for Donny doing porn shoots to repay the debt to Faoud. However when the debt was repaid she still gets the message saying that she’s unhappy because of Faoud and his men. I get she’s still be stressed but the way the text reads it implies that she still has a debt payable to him.


:)Maybe a quick win is if Lizzy convinces Faoud she's a teacher. Longer burns on the other routes...

If not illegal maybe simply only allow Lizzy to work there on set days (Mo will undoubtedly have more girls). Also will Lizzy share the window at some point, possible groups and/or friendship. If the later this could also be a possible way out for Lizzy and her friend in some future update…

Also I think you may have missed a couple of earlier posts of Thursday 6th January & Friday at 11.51?
Hey BBZ01,

Yeah forgot to reply to them, not forgot to do them :)
1) Strip club issues (button and coke) found and resolved. Thanks a lot for the saves.
2) Summer progress should have been to 20, then get that press the matter or not event and when chosing the right option a lot more options in regards to what Summer asks. I screwed up with some saves and that part got lost which is why Summer progress appeared to be broken. I've capped progress now to 18. The rest will come in the next update.
3) She shouldn't when on period, but that is now fixed. (The window part. the club requires a lot more coding as it could make Marko mad if she doesn't perform etc. So that part I'll leave for now. :)
4) Nice idea. Will be added in the next big update.
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1) Yeah office attire from taking over from Willem is a cool idea. Will think about that one.
2) Beach sending home fixed. Same for the other options when working the streets.
3) Live becomes Life
4) hat becomes hate
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1) Found it now and I think this time I fixed it for realz.
2) Found the reason for this and fixed it.
3) A quick win? You mean a positive game end?
4) Yeah but I don't want Lizzy to work there in the middle of the night. Only in weekend maybe full day. Thinking about it :)

Cheers
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Hi TrapmanCrothers,
Thanks for coming here and share your thoughts on the game.
This is a slow burn game and relationships are indeed lacking. When I started creating this game a looooooong time ago, I always wanted to do this, but never really had a clue how to do it properly (properly as in the way I wanted it to work). Now several years later I do and I've started with Summer. She is a girl Lizzy can meet at the beach party and then slowly build a relationship with her.
I've got plans for many more. Summer needs to be finished first(next update, or the one after that), but I'm also working on Cees. He is a guy Lizzy meets in the kitchen. Many more will follow, but somehow over time, I completely forgot about this part and built a lot (and I do mean a lot) of other stuff.
There is a lot of content I'm sure you haven't seen yet. And that is fine as in my opinion a player should not necessarily cover everything in one playthrough.

Anyway, long story short, relationships - and with those comes a nice story hopefully - are going to be added more and more.

Again, thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope somewhere in the future, you'll play this game again and think; 'Wow, there is a lot more going on now in regards of characters and story.
I will definitely be playing through it again sometime soon, and especially as more gets added. I think the way you've ended up approaching the game, building a world first and then looking to fill it out, will turn out to be a very good thing long term. The actual game world and the range of mechanics is better than any other HTML game I've played so far. It's a great canvas to now start painting on the detail. I feel like some other games I've played the designers started with story and character ideas and then ran into trouble as the game ends up forcing you down paths or that the mechanics are really secondary, sometimes bordering on irrelevant, to progression.
 
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3) A quick win? You mean a positive game end?
No, I mean that Lizzy explains what's happened and Helen gives her a hug etc puts her back on the "good" flower path.

Also I know from your previous posts that you are thinking about other relationships (other than Summer) going forward & I know this is supposed to be a porn game, however, to me it's already more than just that with a lot of extras which aren't porn related (TrapmanCrothers has also indicated that relationships would add great value so at least I'm not alone) so maybe consider some relationships which are simply friendship only? A prime example of this could be Helen and or Patricia if Lizzy is on the "good" flower or library routes when they could ask Lizzy to meet after work maybe for a drink in the pub or a meal in the restaurant in the mall (when it's open) or even at home?

4) Yeah but I don't want Lizzy to work there in the middle of the night. Only in weekend maybe full day. Thinking about it :)
Yep, my thoughts too (almost)... Maybe as she's on the flower route and it now continues she doesn't work Wednesday, Friday and Sunday so maybe allow her to stay as long as she likes Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday but not other nights which can be capped at "say" midnight (for Mo's other girl/s)? The alternative would be to cap it at a time of your choosing. I've checked your point about the legalities & the window brothels are only closed for 2 hours a day between 6:00 and 8:00 AM so that should be covered too I guess.
 

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So there's a scene in the Strip Club in the RLD where a client asks how much a naked private dance with Lizzy costs. The client seems to be outraged whether Liz told him it's €40 or €50. Is there some criteria to fulfil in order to have the client accept the price?
 

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So there's a scene in the Strip Club in the RLD where a client asks how much a naked private dance with Lizzy costs. The client seems to be outraged whether Liz told him it's €40 or €50. Is there some criteria to fulfil in order to have the client accept the price?
Yes, pole dancing skill and fitness.

Also BurningSun bug report on this:
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<<click "Tell him it will cost him fourty Euros.">>\
        <<replace "#NPLapdance">>\
You kneel down next to him and you whisper into his ear; @@color:hotpink;"<<print either("For you only forty Euros sweetheart.", "Hmm you smell manly. Just give me forty Euros and I'll give you a private lap dance.", "Only forty Euros for a hot customer like you.")>>"@@
<<if $DPole gte 25 and $Fitness gte 25>>
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<<else>>He starts to laugh and then pushes you away. "No way bitch. Thirty maybe, but fifty? Fuck me that is way too much for a skank like you."
The refusal is the same and says "fifty" for both options (40 & 50)

The customer also suggests 30 for both options (ie even if he would have paid 40). For a feature suggestion, maybe Lizzy could accept the customer's offer and take a dignity hit for it?
 
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Hey all,
Finally V0.8.8.44 is out. There were sooo many bugs to crush in this version. Biggest bug crushing version till date I think.
Thank you all for helping me fixing all of them and a big shout out to BBZ01 & EAngelinaC for helping me a lot crushing many of the bugs in this latest version.

Hopefully that will be it so that I can finally fully focus on V0.8.8.50.

Cheers all
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Once again something slipped my mind... Got the job at the library, my Lizzie never gets the alert for the job until she failed to go there enough and loses it - what's my mistake, goddamn?!? I mdan I played that game a thousamnd times now and once again I just don't get it...

EDIT: So annoying! Same thing at Balans! HELP!!!

Plus: Saw the flyer that should have opened the dance studio- Did not happen, though. Is it me or is the update kind of strange?
 
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When I tried to open a save from the previous update in the .40 build it turned out like this:



This was from a save in the apartment btw.
Hi PeaceToTheHuts,
That can happen due to certain bugs from a previous update. If you send me your safe file I can fix it for you.
Sorry for the hassle.
how do i find the strip club?
Hey Dracula21,
BBZ01 gave you some hints already, but here are a few more:
1) make sure Lizzy has access to the club (disco)
2) In the disco, make sure Lizzy has a party dress on and have looks of 35+
3) When the above are okay, there is a random chance of an event to trigger anywhere in the club. The event is a girl dancing close to Lizzy and handing her a card.
4) With that card Lizzy can meet with Raul in the club on Saturday after 21h
5) He will ask Lizzy to perform for him. He will then tell Lizzy she nees practice and inform her about a dancingschool.
6) Get Lizzy to 25+ skill and perform for him again (on the pole!) and he will ask Lizzy to dance for him in the strip club.
GL
Once again something slipped my mind... Got the job at the library, my Lizzie never gets the alert for the job until she failed to go there enough and loses it - what's my mistake, goddamn?!? I mdan I played that game a thousamnd times now and once again I just don't get it...

EDIT: So annoying! Same thing at Balans! HELP!!!

Plus: Saw the flyer that should have opened the dance studio- Did not happen, though. Is it me or is the update kind of strange?
Hey ray3dave,
Hope you are doing well.
Have you bought an alarm? And if you did, have you set it to a good time and turned it on? Without an alarm, Lizzy wakes up at 09:00h which is too late for the library icon to appear.

Are you sure you saw the right flyer? There are some flyers out there which Lizzy discards.
Not sure what is strange about the update?

Cheers
BurningSun
 
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Finally V0.8.8.44 is out.
Sorry but there still appears to be a problem with the food at Mo's window. I've just run a quick check using an old saved .43 version and the text says Lizzy doesn't have enough money but from the screenshot she has plenty?
Going forward I'll restart using version .44 and simply enjoy the game rather than do a quick playthrough.
Also what do you think about the idea mentioned above (last Thursday) of a simple friendly relationship with Helen and/or Patricia? It needn't be big and would probably just improve morale slightly but would add "flavour" to the game. Also the option for Lizzy to return to the "good" flower path if she convinces Faoud that she's a teacher. Thanks.
 

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Hey ray3dave,
Hope you are doing well.
Have you bought an alarm? And if you did, have you set it to a good time and turned it on? Without an alarm, Lizzy wakes up at 09:00h which is too late for the library icon to appear.

Are you sure you saw the right flyer? There are some flyers out there which Lizzy discards.
Not sure what is strange about the update?

Cheers
BurningSun
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I bought the alarm, but still the button does not appear, although I figured out the right days and time of the day to start now, the button still would be very welcome (less clicks). The flyer stuff is solved, I might not have clicked it the way I should - it was still hanging on the wall. And thanks for asking, I am doing pretty well, given the circumstances we all go through. And I still like your game a lot! Thanks for keeping it updated!
 

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Sorry but there still appears to be a problem with the food at Mo's window. I've just run a quick check using an old saved .43 version and the text says Lizzy doesn't have enough money but from the screenshot she has plenty?
Going forward I'll restart using version .44 and simply enjoy the game rather than do a quick playthrough.
Also what do you think about the idea mentioned above (last Thursday) of a simple friendly relationship with Helen and/or Patricia? It needn't be big and would probably just improve morale slightly but would add "flavour" to the game. Also the option for Lizzy to return to the "good" flower path if she convinces Faoud that she's a teacher. Thanks.
Hi BBZ01,
Found the issue. I let the game check the $StatCash variable and not the $Cash variable. My mistake. This is now fixed for the next version (V0.8.8.45). Thanks for letting me know.

I really like the ideas, I really do and I will get it done, but it is just time. I need more of it and a lot more :)

I get a error
Hi Skyllah,
You are playing with Version V0.8.8.40 still. Please upgrade to V0.8.8.44 and I believe that error will be fixed.
Please let me know if that is not the case.
how do i get the library fuck scenes?
Hi Dracula21,
I'm guessing you mean the ones with Willem? Basically you are meant to say no to Zack when he arrives at the library. Zack will try and push Lizzy, but then Willem comes and plays the hero. Lizzy is thankful and can continue her work in the library as per usual.
At some point (about 2 weeks or so later) Willem will come for his reward.
GL
Hey ray3dave,
Hope you are doing well.
Have you bought an alarm? And if you did, have you set it to a good time and turned it on? Without an alarm, Lizzy wakes up at 09:00h which is too late for the library icon to appear.

Are you sure you saw the right flyer? There are some flyers out there which Lizzy discards.
Not sure what is strange about the update?

Cheers
BurningSun


I bought the alarm, but still the button does not appear, although I figured out the right days and time of the day to start now, the button still would be very welcome (less clicks). The flyer stuff is solved, I might not have clicked it the way I should - it was still hanging on the wall. And thanks for asking, I am doing pretty well, given the circumstances we all go through. And I still like your game a lot! Thanks for keeping it updated!
Hi ray3dave,
Great to hear you are alright, considering everything.
Sorry to ask, but have you actually set the alarm AND turned it on? If you have set it AND turned it on, please let me have your save game so I can check the issue.
The button should always appear, unless of course you are playing on Hard.

Cheers
BurningSun
 
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