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Personally I don't have an issue with devs trying to make their games more safe for platforms like patreon or steam. It sucks that they have to censor themselves but if they don't do that, they will get nuked and we don't get any games. I just think that if you're going to do it, you have to do it in a way that makes sense. I haven't played this new release but when he released the remake the flow of the story got really weird and a lot of dialogue still felt like it was meant to be an incest game.
Oh, I agree. Censorship as a whole sucks. I'm pro free speech and free market. But getting mad at dev obviously doesn't solve the issue -.-

As for rewrites, yeah I meanit would take a talented writer to make it feel natural when obviously writing in tabooness for non taboo things isn't a walk in the park. I also am not familiar enough with the rules of patreon or steam, because you'd think if it were like theregular porn industry they could easily slap on step and problem would be solves, making ipatch easy just .replace("step-", "") lol but obviously they want some greater degree of separation.
 

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Oh, I agree. Censorship as a whole sucks. I'm pro free speech and free market. But getting mad at dev obviously doesn't solve the issue -.-

As for rewrites, yeah I meanit would take a talented writer to make it feel natural when obviously writing in tabooness for non taboo things isn't a walk in the park. I also am not familiar enough with the rules of patreon or steam, because you'd think if it were like theregular porn industry they could easily slap on step and problem would be solves, making ipatch easy just .replace("step-", "") lol but obviously they want some greater degree of separation.
For steam, I could be wrong but I think the platform itself doesn't really have issues with games with incest but if your game has it, it will not be available in certain countries. As for patreon even stuff like stepcest is not allowed. That is why people use the whole landlady and tenant thing.
 
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Oh, I agree. Censorship as a whole sucks. I'm pro free speech and free market. But getting mad at dev obviously doesn't solve the issue -.-

As for rewrites, yeah I meanit would take a talented writer to make it feel natural when obviously writing in tabooness for non taboo things isn't a walk in the park. I also am not familiar enough with the rules of patreon or steam, because you'd think if it were like theregular porn industry they could easily slap on step and problem would be solves, making ipatch easy just .replace("step-", "") lol but obviously they want some greater degree of separation.
Not sure about Steam's rules. But from what I've seen on here, they don't want any sense of incest in any way, shape, or form. From what I gather, even your uncle's wife can't be because that is a form of incest. Third cousin? Still against the rules. I'm surprised mothers best friend is allowed. LoL.
 
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For steam, I could be wrong but I think the platform itself doesn't really have issues with games with incest but if your game has it, it will not be available in certain countries. As for patreon even stuff like stepcest is not allowed. That is why people use the whole landlady and tenant thing.
Yeah steam doesn't seem to care if you have incest or even rape in your game. So many game on steam have both those things, even in the name of the game. They have from my experience only gone after games that have depictions of characters that could be interpreted as underage. If the setting is in a high school or the characters look young.

Patreon however will ban a game if the creator is on patreon and releases a game on any other platform that has bannable content by Patreon guidelines. They look on that as trying to skirt around their rules.
 
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Yeah steam doesn't seem to care if you have incest or even rape in your game. So many game on steam have both those things, even in the name of the game. They have from my experience only gone after games that have depictions of characters that could be interpreted as underage. If the setting is in a high school or the characters look young.

Patreon however will ban a game if the creator is on patreon and releases a game on any other platform that has bannable content by Patreon guidelines. They look on that as trying to skirt around their rules.
And that's a lot of the reason some Dev's will create a fake account on sites like here and release an IPatch for their game but make it seem like it's an independent modder. Not very many do it. But I've seen a few who I think are the original Dev by the way they talk.
 
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Patreon however will ban a game if the creator is on patreon and releases a game on any other platform that has bannable content by Patreon guidelines. They look on that as trying to skirt around their rules.
Oh. I see why people rag on patreon then. By all means fuck patreon then and become subscribestar only. Hot damn.Any company trying to inflict punishment on creators/users based on conduct elsewhere is very much an overreach. That's totalitarian vibes if you ask me.

You want a walled garden thats one thing and I get gotta play by their rules inside their garden. But outside? Fuck outta here. They gonna shut your project down if your IP browsed something against their rules to? No thanks. Dev struggle is real.It shard enough in the adult industry as it is.. fucking overreach though.
 
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Oh. I see why people rag on patreon then. By all means fuck patreon then and become subscribestar only. Hot damn.Any company trying to inflict punishment on creators/users based on conduct elsewhere is very much an overreach. That's totalitarian vibes if you ask me.

You want a walled garden thats one thing and I get gotta play by their rules inside their garden. But outside? Fuck outta here. They gonna shut your project down if your IP browsed something against their rules to? No thanks. Dev struggle is real.It shard enough in the adult industry as it is.. fucking overreach though.
From what I understand a lot of the pressure Patreon is putting on adult content creators is from the credit card companies who have set rules about adult content they allow their cards to be used on. It's why a lot of the same categories are not allowed on a lot of the adult industry. Either you obey the credit card rules or they will remove your ability to receive purchases with their cards, which would kill Patreon.
 
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Life in Santa County 0.11.0: Walkthrough Mod + Incest Patch + Gallery Unlocker

Here's my walkthrough mod which includes incest patch as well as gallery unlocker.

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Is there any chance you could please update this to be compatible with the Steam version?
 
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From what I understand a lot of the pressure Patreon is putting on adult content creators is from the credit card companies who have set rules about adult content they allow their cards to be used on. It's why a lot of the same categories are not allowed on a lot of the adult industry. Either you obey the credit card rules or they will remove your ability to receive purchases with their cards, which would kill Patreon.

This would not account for the overreach at all. I do understand the payment processors have their own rules which companies abide by, but not that long ago most porn supported every credit card under the sun with step family and almost every other kink. They do that by not billing directly but through a shell "billing company" (used to be probiller or ccbill) which acts as the intermediate they processing billing so even though everyone knows what you're getting technically you paid billing company and the credit card company is happy as long as they get their money.

All that to say,patreon is using credit card companies as scapegoat. There is absolutely no need to go see what people are doing on other platforms. Credit Cards Companies dont care. Then again, maybe noways they do with the whole stakeholder capitalism thing which forces its own brand of "social responsibility" upon everyone. I've been outta the regular news cycle for some time in regards to that cause the whole world seems like its going to shit whenever you start listening to "news".
 

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this renders dosent look good.
you had to rag on one ugly render of a purposefully ugly dude lol.
disingenuous.

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Is there true relationship patch for Steam version of game?
If you've read any of the last few posts you'd know: NO. Its been completely stripped from the steam code so the patch will require a volunteer's time and effort to remake a proper patch.
 

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Oh. I see why people rag on patreon then. By all means fuck patreon then and become subscribestar only. Hot damn.Any company trying to inflict punishment on creators/users based on conduct elsewhere is very much an overreach. That's totalitarian vibes if you ask me.

You want a walled garden thats one thing and I get gotta play by their rules inside their garden. But outside? Fuck outta here. They gonna shut your project down if your IP browsed something against their rules to? No thanks. Dev struggle is real.It shard enough in the adult industry as it is.. fucking overreach though.
SubscribeStar has its own issues with paying creators. Probably the most successful dev on there is Breadman Games (making "Demon Deals") and he said that SS payment to them is never what it should be, and always seems late. It's an iffy platform to rely upon as sole source of income.


From what I understand a lot of the pressure Patreon is putting on adult content creators is from the credit card companies who have set rules about adult content they allow their cards to be used on. It's why a lot of the same categories are not allowed on a lot of the adult industry. Either you obey the credit card rules or they will remove your ability to receive purchases with their cards, which would kill Patreon.
This would not account for the overreach at all. I do understand the payment processors have their own rules which companies abide by, but not that long ago most porn supported every credit card under the sun with step family and almost every other kink. They do that by not billing directly but through a shell "billing company" (used to be probiller or ccbill) which acts as the intermediate they processing billing so even though everyone knows what you're getting technically you paid billing company and the credit card company is happy as long as they get their money.

All that to say,patreon is using credit card companies as scapegoat. There is absolutely no need to go see what people are doing on other platforms. Credit Cards Companies dont care. Then again, maybe noways they do with the whole stakeholder capitalism thing which forces its own brand of "social responsibility" upon everyone. I've been outta the regular news cycle for some time in regards to that cause the whole world seems like its going to shit whenever you start listening to "news".
My understanding is that the main issue is Paypal, which is why SubscribeStar doesn't have Paypal because they told Paypal to fuck off with censoring content of creators. Paypal, however, is applying that pressure because they are themselves pressured by the governments of countries they operate in, that require them to moderate what kind of content is being financed by way of Paypal transactions. If Paypal didn't apply pressure, then they couldn't do business in those countries.

Is there any chance you could please update this to be compatible with the Steam version?
Bro, come on, he just replied to somebody a few posts above you.

Is there true relationship patch for Steam version of game?
SweatyDevil is making it right now. It's not an easy change, so will take them a few days, they said.
 
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SubscribeStar has its own issues with paying creators. Probably the most successful dev on there is Breadman Games (making "Demon Deals") and he said that SS payment to them is never what it should be, and always seems late. It's an iffy platform to rely upon as sole source of income.
Well damn. Yeah if payment is iffy it certainly makes it harder to trust the platform.
You'd think there'd be better alternatives. I'd say crypto, but I suppose the barrier for some is still high esp if getting stuff on credit. Nonethless as time goes on bound to be the most viable option.

My understanding is that the main issue is Paypal, which is why SubscribeStar doesn't have Paypal because they told Paypal to fuck off with censoring content of creators. Paypal, however, is applying that pressure because they are themselves pressured by the governments of countries they operate in, that require them to moderate what kind of content is being financed by way of Paypal transactions. If Paypal doesn't, then they can't do business in those countries.
Fuck paypal then. But this makes more sense, paypal has long since soured in my book.After the second time they banned me (for reporting fraud, yes I reported an ebay seller as fraudulent and I got banned), I've stopped using them all together. Anyways doesnt help devs situation. Still dislike companies abiding by overreach on what people do on OTHER platforms. The whole its not my fault there fault only works if its within the confines of your platform when they remove your account because you're providing their "no-no" content on a platform where it's permissible is the straw to far.
 

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Everybody have to eat, pay the bills, have some fun, have family, etc..., the "have balls" dont pay the bills, dont bring food to the table.

Making a game came from 2 sides: 1) you need to eat and you have some skills with programs related to games and you focus in that to bring some game that some people will like and then pay for your game, with that money you pay the bills and eat; 2) you have a good job, make enough money and have some free time, so you use your time to make a game in your free time, it take some time, but in the end you make something in your taste and sell, or give for free, to others to enjoy.

Either way, in the end, you need money to survive, so "sorry" if some dev change the game they make trying to satysfi the big company to sell their game and make more money.
You cry in a pirate server about the dev changing the game.... if you really pay for the game, then go and say the same in his patreon or discord, or whatever method of communication he use..., or simply, stop the suscription because the game now is not for you; but coming here, to rant about a dev making change that you dont like, even when the game here is FREE, that make you a scumbag, one big scumbag.
Try to enter discord go ahead, its paywalled by patreon, u cant do nothing or say nothing even if u buyed the game at steam (y)

He need to eat? fine go ahead i never said nothing about that and u whiteknights always defend this kind of behaviour like that, if u have a place like substar for example then what is your point? Why u stay on a place where u will get your work nuked by someone? Ooooh we go again with the money always the money, the reality is that kind of ppl doesnt care a shit about the game and only see money money money ok then go ahead keep being a whiteknight for ppl who doesnt care about his own game...like who is the big scumbag then?
 
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The only language included is English, by the way, despite all promises in discord. Bad, Moody, bad!
No, her native language is included, "Turkish".


if u have a place like substar for example then what is your point?
Because SS doesn't approve everyone and if they do it's like a year later, also many banks have blacklisted SS, so you can't even pay there. And so what about SS, SS is shadow banning games, I guess you missed the part about them not allowing Incest now?

So, your little safe haven for pedo's is about to get cutoff, which many have been shadow banned.

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either i have a romanticized memory of 11, or the steam version is crap in comparison. i couldnt make it to the camelia sex scene with best friend tied up in the closet using ctrl skip before i quit steam version and went back to play 11 from start without skipping dialogue. also the steam version seems to lag on flashback scene jumps, like i have to wait a moment or two to click to enter and exit, but on 11 its instantaneous. something about the ui, idk, the whole thing feels laggy. which sucks cause eventually im gonna want to get the steam version and do an ocd achievement thing like i do on my favorite games of all variety. but this version is just off, like discount rack, dried donuts in the back of grocery store marked down 2 times before throwing away off.

on the plus side, 11 is as good as i remember from playing in winter
 

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so you recommend me to play the patreon version instead of the steam version? From what I read the steam version is a disaster and is clearly worse than the patreon version. I await advice.
The Steam version is the superior version until the Patreon version gets the updated GUI. It's a lot smoother and it just seems like a whole new game. Plus, you got the built in WT (you can use it or not) and many other added features.

Patreon will get the same GUI update with the launch of Season 2 which could still be a ways off.
 
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